Cardinal Pell - Guilty

[Demosthenes]

I would have expected calls of excommunication. Yet they're doubling down on him being persecuted, which almost draws comparisons with their favourite mascot.

There's always going to be some portion of supporters who live permanently in denial, but the conviction came as a surprise to a lot of experts and more than a few believe his appeal stands a good chance of success on the basis that the evidence didn't support the verdict. The below article provides a pretty good summary:

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...inning-appeal-against-convictions-expert-says

That doesn't mean he's innocent, but I am not surprised that the verdict hasn't put an end to the discussion. I doubt the appeal will either. At the end of the day, this case boiled down to one man's word against another's. People are always going to pick who they want to believe.

Lucky not to get more

Nah, pretty in line with expectations. Peter Kidd is a very, very good jurist.

 

[rdhopkins2]

How does this rate on the Richter scale?

 

[Gough]

How does this rate on the Richter scale?

Stop Kidding, this is serious.

 

[DidakDelight]

Cardinal Pell is very lucky.
Either charge 2 or 3 seems straight up prima facie rape. Was there a deal done to downgrade it sexual penetration of a child u16?

 

[Nothing]

Cardinal Pell is very lucky.
Either charge 2 or 3 seems straight up prima facie rape. Was there a deal done to downgrade it sexual penetration of a child u16?

Sexual penetration is the charge that covers rape, or at least in WA that's the case.

 

[DidakDelight]

Sexual penetration is the charge that covers rape, or at least in WA that's the case.

Pretty sure it was in Vic but all the same
10 years max is 10 years max I suppose

 

[the_interloper]

The Catholic clergy is a nest of pedos.

What sexually normal person signs up for a life of celibacy?

Incels?

 

[William Wonka]

Incels?

Im not very good with millennial slang but I was under the impression they were the exact opposite. Involuntary rather than Voluntary celibates.

 

[the_interloper]

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Im not very good with millennial slang but I was under the impression they were the exact opposite. Involuntary rather than Voluntary celibates.

So they say anyway, anyone can pull a root if they set their standards low enough I'd reckon.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Just had a chat with my Catholic friends pretty sane and rational woman most times.
Was trying to convince me George may have done these bad things, but the court case shouldnt have found him guilty based on the evidence of just 1 victim.

I would say last Sundays sermon was all about how nice George was based on her priests views

 

[Procrastinator35]

Just had a chat with my Catholic friends pretty sane and rational woman most times.
Was trying to convince me George may have done these bad things, but the court case shouldnt have found him guilty based on the evidence of just 1 victim.

I would say last Sundays sermon was all about how nice George was based on her priests views

I don't suppose she happened to mention the other sick pedos he was both aiding & sheltering, in moving them from one school district to another, after he knew full-well the extent of the complaints about them, time & time again.

 

[tryitout]

Just had a chat with my Catholic friends pretty sane and rational woman most times.
Was trying to convince me George may have done these bad things, but the court case shouldnt have found him guilty based on the evidence of just 1 victim.

I would say last Sundays sermon was all about how nice George was based on her priests views

Ask her how many people giving evidence she would require to be satisfied with a guilty verdict.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Pretty fortunate given the gravity of the charges to only get 6yrs. Even with parole, he probably will die in jail though.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I don't suppose she happened to mention the other sick pedos he was both aiding & sheltering, in moving them from one school district to another, after he knew full-well the extent of the complaints about them, time & time again.

Definitely did

Ask her how many people giving evidence she would require to be satisfied with a guilty verdict.

Told her most of the victims that dont come forward are either broken, dead or still feel guilt or shame or just want to forget.