Cardinal Pell honorary role with Richmond - Is this the last straw?

[Sir_Loin]

Where am I saying break the suppression order?

I'm saying we just say "he's no longer our patron" .that's it

Why would you do that? Implies strongly we think he’s guilty. You don’t strip patronage from someone for no reason. People aren’t dummies.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Richmond football club has today announced the removal of pell from his roles at the Richmond football club

Done easy doesn't affect any suppression orders or any trials.

He's pretty old and sick though so maybe you guys will be happy when he's dead and it's easy to do. Even then someone will go on about respecting the dead.

That’s just spin for why you’re doing it. Doing it for indirect reasons can be just as powerful a message as doing it for direct reasons.

Let the club handle it. They know more about it than anyone else.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Why would you do that? Implies strongly we think he’s guilty. You don’t strip patronage from someone for no reason. People aren’t dummies.

Pope did it, good enough for him, good enough for us

 

[Sir_Loin]

Pope did it, good enough for him, good enough for us

Lol

 

[Starburns_]

It was poor from the club not to have already put an end to this a long time ago, but sitting on their hands now is incredibly weak and pathetic.

Why would you do that? Implies strongly we think he’s guilty. You don’t strip patronage from someone for no reason. People aren’t dummies.

He is guilty though*.




*apparently

Pope did it, good enough for him, good enough for us

^^This. People are getting incredibly carried away with the importance of the club thinking that will prejudice the case. If his employer (and previously biggest supporter) have ditched him, then what nothing anyone else does is relevant.

 

[Sir_Loin]

It was poor from the club not to have already put an end to this a long time ago, but sitting on their hands now is incredibly weak and pathetic.



He is guilty though*.




*apparently



^^This. People are getting incredibly carried away with the importance of the club thinking that will prejudice the case. If his employer (and previously biggest supporter) have ditched him, then what nothing anyone else does is relevant.

Laws of the land don’t apply to The Vatican.

Agree should never have been a patron in the first place. Club completely asleep at the wheel. Now the horse has bolted they have to deal with it. I trust they will appropriately under this management

 

[Starburns_]

Laws of the land don’t apply to The Vatican.

As they so often try to demonstrate...

Agree should never have been a patron in the first place. Club completely asleep at the wheel. Now the horse has bolted they have to deal with it. I trust they will appropriately under this management

The horse has hardly bolted, the club are free to just add a new patron for 'outgoing' one George Pell in the interim if they want to be more subtle about it.

It's not like he's in a contracted position that contains any measure of success. There's nothing to sack him from, he's just being replaced and the club is creating distance.

Still, this should've happened years ago when he admitted to shuffling priests around when they got caught.

 

[Sir_Loin]

As they so often try to demonstrate...



The horse has hardly bolted, the club are free to just add a new patron for 'outgoing' one George Pell in the interim if they want to be more subtle about it.

It's not like he's in a contracted position that contains any measure of success. There's nothing to sack him from, he's just being replaced and the club is creating distance.

Still, this should've happened years ago when he admitted to shuffling priests around when they got caught.

Why do you think they haven’t done it? Does that not tell you enough? You hardly have to guess as to the reasons why.

Pell’s performance back in the 90s during the state parliamentary inquiry and subsequent actions was enough to make you sick. That alone should have been enough to not go near this guy.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Just received this from the club:


Given the news about Cardinal Pell yesterday we can inform you that he has been removed as a Vice Patron of the Richmond Football Club.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Just received this from the club:


Given the news about Cardinal Pell yesterday we can inform you that he has been removed as a Vice Patron of the Richmond Football Club.

Good.

 

[DickieKnee]

Close thread now I reckon.

 

[Calcium Man]

Just received this from the club:


Given the news about Cardinal Pell yesterday we can inform you that he has been removed as a Vice Patron of the Richmond Football Club.

Sounds like they just don’t want to give it any air time.

Should of happened awhile ago.

 

[DickieKnee]

The suppression order is there to stop media hype influencing the next trail. It looks like the club has done what needs to be done without a media circus. I'd say we stop discussing it now. There will be plenty of time for outrage after the second trail early next year.

 

[parmy2balmey]

Ok groupie

law degrees are the new arts degrees

 

[THE_GUN]

Has this bloke attended any of our games the last 10 years ?
Does he pay his membership fee ?
Does he promote our club in any way ?

Whats his benefit to our great club ?

 

[Michaels]

I'm going to close this thread for the time being.

RFC have advised their actions which is what most of the discussion was about.

We can re open once the trials are done.


If you wish to keep discussing the topic at hand you can do so on the SRP board.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/cardinal-pell.1169753/page-40#post-59097070

 

[Michaels]

The trials are done and the club has also made it's decision on the matter.




As much as we are all disgusted with what has taken place, please remember normal site rules still apply.

 

[TJASTA]

Awesome. Glad our club respects due process

 

[Hans McGregor]

Not much needs to be said really. The outcome speaks for itself.

 

[Oprah From Tigerland]

The trials are done and the club has also made it's decision on the matter.




As much as we are all disgusted with what has taken place, please remember normal site rules still apply.

Thanks Michaels! Very pleased to see this from the club too

 

[CaptchaProofBot]

tribe has spoken...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...pell-as-club-vice-patron-20190226-p510cf.html

Richmond have removed Cardinal George Pell from an ambassadorial role with the club following his conviction for child sexual abuse.
The Tigers confirmed on Tuesday that they have informed Pell he will no longer hold the position of vice-patron of the club – an honorary role as club ambassador.


George Pell leaves court in Melbourne on Tuesday.Credit:AP
"The Richmond Football Club has today removed Cardinal George Pell as a club vice-patron. While acknowledging his right to appeal, the club has formed a view that his association is no longer tenable or appropiate," the Tigers said in a statement provided to The Age.
Pell's connection with Richmond stretches back to 1959, when the budding ruckman was signed by the club, where he trained prior to entering the priesthood. He would subsequently rise to become archbishop of both Melbourne and Sydney and then one of the Vatican's most senior figures.
Pell continued to be a Richmond supporter and held the position of vice-patron – along with several other prominent and distinguished public figures – for many years.
Richmond opted to stand by Pell when he was first charged with historical child sex abuse crimes, on the grounds the cardinal – who had risen to the highest rank any Australian has reached at the Vatican – was entitled to a presumption of innocence while the matters were being heard in court

 

[captain blood 17]

Dan ?

 

[Michaels]

Where there’s smoke there’s fire and nothing was done until recently.

Mate

Nothing was done due to legal reasons surrounding the matter.

Might be best if you stop posting in this thread, remember where you are (i.e not the bay)

 

[Dan]

Nothing was done due to legal reasons surrounding the matter.

Might be best if you stop posting in this thread, remember where you are (i.e not the bay)

Can’t help if posters tag me in here.

 

[Michaels]

Can’t help if posters tag me in here.

be that as it may, you still should know better.