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List Mgmt. Carlton Draft 2021
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Like it, but will we have the list spots?
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If you're going to trade out a pick, it's pick 6. And if you're going to trade in a pick, it's pick 40.
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What is it about pick 6 ?If you're going to trade out a pick, it's pick 6. And if you're going to trade in a pick, it's pick 40.
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A second pick in the 60's this year might be more speculative than leaving room for a mid-season pick next year.
My thoughts as well - i fully expect we will select 2 in the draft, upgrade Kennedy, LOB in the Rookie draft and Cottrell to be added later for a LTI
In a draft pool like 2021 when many of youngsters not had much footy in last two years, it going to be almost pure luck if you hit or miss I would think.
I just doubt the recruiters could have much confidence in their rankings of the draft pool as they would have pre-2020.
The thing is, with pick 25, you might fluke on a guy that should have been top ten in past but because the lack of footy played compared to past pool groups, I doubt anyone can be sure either way so it scary to have an early pick and bugger it up.
25 is not early enough to be scared of stuffing up. Expectations not that high to begin with.
James Rowbottom might prove to be best 25 in years to come.
Probably Nick Stevens has been to this point in draft history.
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In Numerology the number 6 is the embodiment of the heart. It represents unconditional love and the ability to support, nurture, and heal. In the Bible 666 is the number of the beast. In statistics there can be outliers (data that deviates by a factor of more than 1.5, which pick 6 does compared to picks 5 and 7). However...
If you don't include first 15 years of the draft (where perhaps not same attention to drafting), the last 25 years or so for pick 6 is pretty much to the norm...
When I look at draft history I personally only start from about mid 1990's like 1994 as it the time the under 19's system is gone and most of the concessions of West Coast, Crows and Bears are gone to leave the draft pool more open to all players in Australia to pick from. Dockers and Port the new clubs in mid 90's still had some concessions but not as crazy good as Eagles to begin with.
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This makes great sense to me.
So... 1 pick in ND, upgrade Kennedy and Honey, LoB and Cotterill on Rookie list, see how things go with Doc etc, and if needed, mid-season draft.
Should be noted there is also a de-listed free agency period before the National Draft. Which if did not upgrade both Kennedy and Honey it could mean you get a delisted free agent on primary list and leave one of those guys on rookie list. Probably why not heard them certain upgrades yet as club has to keep options open as need to see what spills out from other clubs as more get delisted.
Example, Pies just de-listed Jay Rantall and Hawks Oliver Hanrahan today.
Delisted Free Agency period
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Unfortunately, we kind of ended up with half of Charlie....
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If you're going to trade out a pick, it's pick 6. And if you're going to trade in a pick, it's pick 40.
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Pick #119 is where it's at.
Dean Kemp or a Prime Minister!!!
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This is also a personal reflection, but I am going through a paradigm shift when it comes to the draft. In the past I have had a hope from as soon as possible after draft day, draftees will debut and contribute. But the situation is different now.
We have a solid and relatively young playing list. We can see something of what the future holds. We don't have to ask players to be ready for AFL from day 1. We are finally developing an excellent development program.
What this means is that this could be an unusual year of taking only 1 new player in the ND. And given it is 25, we could have unrealistic expectations. I will still have expectations of players being held to high standards, but I don't want to have unrealistic expectations...
We have a solid and relatively young playing list. We can see something of what the future holds. We don't have to ask players to be ready for AFL from day 1. We are finally developing an excellent development program.
What this means is that this could be an unusual year of taking only 1 new player in the ND. And given it is 25, we could have unrealistic expectations. I will still have expectations of players being held to high standards, but I don't want to have unrealistic expectations...
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Whatever the AFL rules say, there is always exceptions and exemptions, with what’s happening with Doc, we may be planning on asking the AFL for some leeway.
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Pick 199 got the Patriots Tom Brady. Surely the greatest and most ridiculous draft pick of all time.
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Certainly a possibility. Though, given we have already made commitments to LOB & Cotts, if we were planning to take two picks, you'd think we would have sought an exemption from the AFL already. And perhaps we have, just not announced it. Obviously a very sensitive matter, and Doc's welfare needs to be at the top of everyone's concerns.
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We have 33 on the senior list now and must start next season with a minimum of 36.
2 x ND picks + 1 rookie elevation = 36 on the senior list
We have 6 on the Cat A rookie list currently. 5 when you take into account the elevation mentioned above. This gives us one pick, which will be LOB given we have committed to taking him.
This gives us a 36/6/1 split, and the required 42 on the senior + Cat A rookie list.
There is no reason for us to have delisted Cottrell unless we already know we are moving someone to the LTI/Inactive list. My guess is this will be Doc, and will allow us to take a rookie via the SSP period. This will be Cottrell.
End result:
Senior list: 36 (+1 inactive)
Cat A Rookie list: 7 (6 + 1 SSP)
Cat B Rookie list: 1
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Might be only minor but our pick 64 will go out a couple for father sons but will come in by up to 10 picks when Collingwood and bulldogs give up later picks to make up the points when Daicos and Darcy get bidded on. 64 might end up being 56.
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Brilliant interview done with Nick Austin on CFC website by CFC media team - re List our management.
Key observations:
- list is pretty much settled with really only 1 more addition via national draft
- Mirkov and Boyd are effectively our rookie selections this year
- very comfortable taking pick 25 to the draft. Feel there’s are large group of kids in the 10-40 range
- targeting a mid-fwd who complements our midfield and uses the ball well
- we’ve been approached by clubs wanting our pick 25. May be willing to downgrade slightly…assume this could happen on draft night if there’s a few kids available
- likely to only use 1 pick and upgrade 2 players (assume this is Honey and Kennedy)
- makes sense why we were indifferent about the pick we received for SPS
- key gaps for us are our defensive effort and ball use all over the field
Key observations:
- list is pretty much settled with really only 1 more addition via national draft
- Mirkov and Boyd are effectively our rookie selections this year
- very comfortable taking pick 25 to the draft. Feel there’s are large group of kids in the 10-40 range
- targeting a mid-fwd who complements our midfield and uses the ball well
- we’ve been approached by clubs wanting our pick 25. May be willing to downgrade slightly…assume this could happen on draft night if there’s a few kids available
- likely to only use 1 pick and upgrade 2 players (assume this is Honey and Kennedy)
- makes sense why we were indifferent about the pick we received for SPS
- key gaps for us are our defensive effort and ball use all over the field
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Slight edit to this.
From the Nick Austin interview posted on the CFC website, sounds like we're pretty happy to take just the one pick into this national draft. So that may mean 1 x ND and 2 x upgrades.
Not expecting much from us re: trading picks either, sounds like we're very content picking where we are and more importantly very keen to attack next year's draft.
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Pick 56 is not a bad pick to have. If we are not using it, maybe we can trade it for a F2...
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