Carlton Forums Training Thread

[blues4flag]

BLues4flag...... i think the boys leave on friday for SA.check on carltonfc.com about wednesdays session

Thanks for the reply...reason I asked was because the website doesn't work. I'll see if a Flash update will fix the problem.

 

[lopezz]

It's nice to support a player but c'mon, Bentick has had enough time to show something. Yes, hes played some ok games and has been in our best 22, but remember, we have had the weakest side by a long way in the last 3 years. He wouldnt be getting a game elsewhere. If we keep him, Hackland and Blackwell in or 22 we'll be bottom 4 again.

Training match means little.

More pertinent to say, I hope he succeeds, or he is showing promise for this season. Hope is the key word as he is currently not good enough based on last couple of years.

Can't agree with you. While he doesn't set the world alight every week, as as0l0 said, Third in tackles until the finals and was only beaten by Kirk, swallow and one other who all played finals!!

We don't have anyone else anywhere near ready to take this possy off him. He is a rock, may not bust a pack or have the most polish, but does his job. He is another that should benefit from a better midfield

 

[blues4flag]

Thanks for the reply...reason I asked was because the website doesn't work. I'll see if a Flash update will fix the problem.

Stupid website still doesn't work. So, can anyone confirm if tomorrow's session is open?

 

[BlueMania]

Stupid website still doesn't work. So, can anyone confirm if tomorrow's session is open?

Skills session tommorrow at 8:30am says nothing about it being a closed session so you should be right . read below .


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Skills Sessions

Wednesday January 23
8.30am, Princes Park
Please note – Training Times are subject to change at late notice.

 

[blues4flag]

Skills session tommorrow at 8:30am says nothing about it being a closed session so you should be right . read below .


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Skills Sessions

Wednesday January 23
8.30am, Princes Park
Please note – Training Times are subject to change at late notice.

Cool.

 

[mediumsizered]

Can you tell us who is gunna play the in and under role then? We have a plethora of outside mids and linkmen, but very few who can actually do the rattenesque role. Go through the list and you will see that there are only 4 players capable of filling this vital assignment. AB is at the top of the tree with regards to strength, nous and guts. He seems to get his hands on the pill first in most contests and if a clearance is not possible he always locks it in. You don't need Judd type speed or to be pretty to play this role. Will be one of the first picked as he has been working on clearance setups with Hampson, Judd, Murphy and co. Judd needs a blocker. Who do you think that he wants, Houla?

You are correct. Despite our ordinary season last year, we were among the leading clearance teams in the competition. Unfortunately one of our major let downs was our second disposal from the clearance. AB was definitely among the best for winning the clearance but too often the player he gave the ball to, let us down with a poor disposal.

With AB winning his fair share of clearances & being able to feed the ball to Judd & Stevens we should be able to regularly set up quality scoring opportunities, making us far more competitive than we have been in recent years.

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

Thats why Ratts dropped him a few times.....he knows he can become something special. Not many in and under midfielders can get 36 possesions against a top 4 side. He basically won us the richmond game as well alog with stevens.....i think ratts has a soft spot for him

And in the 4 games Bentick played under Ratts he had 36, 31, 24 and 17 disposal-games, averaging 27 disposals a game under Ratts

 

[BlueWorld]

And in the 4 games Bentick played under Ratts he had 36, 31, 24 and 17 disposal-games, averaging 27 disposals a game under Ratts

Everyone's possessions went up once Ratten took over. We went from one of the lowest possession sides to one of the highest. Scotland had 40 or so in one game.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Everyone's possessions went up once Ratten took over. We went from one of the lowest possession sides to one of the highest. Scotland had 40 or so in one game.

We certainly shortened our game a bit and looked for options instead of blazing away and relying on crumbs.

 

[bowlrig]

We certainly shortened our game a bit and looked for options instead of blazing away and relying on crumbs.

Having shortened our game is fine, as long as the skills are up and there are not to many turnovers.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

second (or was it third) in tackles for the AFL. that's something.

Looks like a lot of people here are going on blind faith. Tackle count or stats mean little sometimes and this is a case in point. Judd sometimes only gets 20-26 possies a game but is def the best player in the league. Other players get 35+ touches and they are ok at best, e.g. Hasleby, Simpson, & Bell.

Aside from racking up possession of any kind you can see if they are having an impact on the game...if they are, they stand out. There is always an X-factor about a player showing their class. For mine, AB doesnt stand out, even as a tagger, I dont even notice he exists. Give me a game where you thought, jeez, he was the difference today. To earn your spot, there should be at least 2-3 games per season where you go wow!Other taggers do, e.g. Kirk, Baker, Stenglein, lots of others etc.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

Can't agree with you. While he doesn't set the world alight every week, as as0l0 said, Third in tackles until the finals and was only beaten by Kirk, swallow and one other who all played finals!!

We don't have anyone else anywhere near ready to take this possy off him. He is a rock, may not bust a pack or have the most polish, but does his job. He is another that should benefit from a better midfield

List all teams defensive player/tagger and then slot Bentick in the list. To my mind he has to be near the bottom or at least bottom 4. Hes been around a number of years and done nothing (quick comparison, Kirk, Stenglein, Baker).

Carazzo can play in and under and can tackle. If he is trained for the tagger role then he would be awesome. Remember, he was not trained for that role in 2007 but still averaged 4.6 tackles. Now with Judd/Stevens/Murph in the midfield, Carazzo's opps will be limited. Hes shown more than AB and deserves a spot in the 22. Hadleigh is also an option.

 

[bluesgirl23]

http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10075

Few pics there too.

 

[Silvagnis]

http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10075

Few pics there too.

Thanks.

The direct links to the photos.

Walker.

http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=242328&highlight=#242328

http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=242329&highlight=#242329

http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=242358&highlight=#242358

Shields really is a tank and Bentick is cut.

 

[as0l0]

Looks like a lot of people here are going on blind faith. Tackle count or stats mean little

so the top 3 possession winners from each season should be dropped?

i'm not saying he is a star, i'm saying he has shown something. something that says he fits in at AFL level. Since he is still on the list, it's up to him to take the next step.

 

[BlueMania]

Carazzo can play in and under and can tackle. If he is trained for the tagger role then he would be awesome. Remember, he was not trained for that role in 2007 but still averaged 4.6 tackles. Now with Judd/Stevens/Murph in the midfield, Carazzo's opps will be limited. Hes shown more than AB and deserves a spot in the 22. Hadleigh is also an option.

Carrazzo would be either a brilliant tagger or too good to use as a tagger . I rate the guy highly and would be bitterly dissappointed if he were not in our best 22 .

 

[BrizzyBlue]

Good report here from Stefchook over on TC, thanks mate.

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19749

Don't really have a lot to say, but here goes anyway.

They trained on Oval no.1, which really helps you appreciate the great spirit among the players and the coaches. Very, very upbeat. Injured players doing laps were even calling out encouragement to other players about their skill level. Great to see.

Mainly a disposal skills kind of session. Lots of passing drills.
Just a few comments on some players I took a little notice of:

Fev's skill level is really elite. Kicks the ball beautifully. If he can concentrate on his footy this year (and you've got to think the extra leadership responsibility should help), and with the good support cast around him, should be a real treat to see him playing this year.

Stevens, Scotland, Murphy, Gibbs, all used the ball beautifully.

Russell really does have very good skills as well. On both feet.

Interestingly both Hampson and Aisake seemed reluctant to use their non-dominant foot in certain drills where it was required. Even though the coaching staff were barking at them to do so.

Both Benjamin and Shields were taken aside for extra kicking drills. In one of them Teague was getting Benjamin to kick without taking any steps at all (interesting because in a lot of the running drills, he seems to take more steps than most before kicking). Perhaps they're working on his balance when kicking. I thought he actually kicked fairly well today in the team drills I saw. He really is an incredible mover, and has pretty clean hands, so if they can get his kicking to a decent level, he should be good value.

Judd hardly trained. Heard on the radio that they're 'saving him' for a real go in the altitude conditions in South Africa.

Walker and Ackland are out of their slings.
Joe Anderson looked a real good size (surprisingly tall) for the small/medium sized defender that he is.

And as I said earlier. The spirit seemed really, really good among them.

 

[Silvagnis]

I think I may owe A.Bentick an apology as I didn't think he was up to AFL level.

Looks superfit and trim and trained really well on Saturday. Think he has a role to play.

Thank Pratt for getting Cordy from the Australian Cricket team.

Even Hartlett looks like he's trimmed down a bit.

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=655086&highlight=#655086

Apparently Cordy when he first came to the club said "we have 2 players that were fit enough to play AFL.." They were Caraz and Bentick...
Shows that our last quarter fade-outs were not due to the boys being "too young" as Pagan would say, but extremely unfit.
Brand new fitness regime- way more professional and styled towards modern footy, not the 2000-2001 era.

Only two is a positive, but Lance was delisted.

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

Liked hearing that Russel has very good skills on both feet. Hope that boy can hit his straps this year

 

[BrizzyBlue]

Late one for Wednesday 23rd January 2008 from Uncle John over on TC. A great cavalcade of pictures, thanks Unca!

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19749

Some Pics from yesterdays training session. Got there really really late, so there aren't too many "action" shots. Still ..... might be worth a look at how good the lads are looking these days. BTW, I've somehow managed to sort them in reverse order ........ OOPs

 

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