Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part 3

[Blue__Balls]

I think context matters though… we’re in the middle of the season and if sayers wanted answers then he should have asked them before the season had begun. Not taking players aside in the middle of the season and questioning their coach. What kind of message does that send? When things are going badly you can really see the worst in people and that’s what we’re seeing. A coach in Teague who wants everyone to stick fat and figure it out together versus a board that slithers around creating more division and uncertainty. It’s night and day. Leppa is completely right on this one.

Before the season everyone thought we were making finals, and you want the questions to have been asked then?

Halfway through the year we're a mess, and the soon-to-be President (who hasn't even officially taken over) has stepped in to ask for some honest feedback. He's obviously concerned by what he's heard.

Leppa can go jump - if players have concerns and that's manifesting on-field, then we need to get to the bottom of it ASAP. That doesn't mean the players are right, but asking questions is the starting point. Player A reckons so and so has been shafted at the selection table, Player B says the gameplan encourages attacking play but leaves us exposed defensively and the players are copping the blame...take those comments and dig deeper (through a review, perhaps...?) to establish how we fix those problems ASAP.

Maybe digging deeper identifies that the players are partly/wholly at fault.
Or that the coaches are, but they were unaware and just need support.
Or that they were aware and refused to adapt, and need a strong hand.
Or that a strong hand still won't help and they need to go.

None of that comes to light unless questions are asked. And the time to ask them is "as soon as you know you need to" not "6 months ago when everyone thought things were awesome".

 

[azlou]

I can’t see Leppa ever being a head coach again after his comments
Would make clubs very nervous

 

[katmanblue]

I don't really care who it is - Leppa shooting from the hip at such vague information is pathetic. All we know is that some senior players had an informal chat with the incoming president and they admitted confusion around the game plan, this bloke has turned it into players complaining about Teague and should be exiled from the club.

He pretends he's above the media sh*t because he's coached before but he's a grub shock jock just like the rest of them.

Is it supposed to go like this?

Sayers: Boys, big review coming as you know, where can we start with you guys? What's most important?
Player: Mate, fu** off - we will give you our feedback when the real review starts. We're going just fine.
Sayers: You're 4-8 and 14th, just trying to help.
Player: Oh.

Or...

Sayers: So how do you think we're traveling? What can we improve?

Player: It's fine. I'm fine. Everything's fine.

 

[chunkylover53]

Or...

Sayers: So how do you think we're traveling? What can we improve?

Player: It's fine. I'm fine. Everything's fine.

Narrator: "it was not fine"

 

[Blue__Balls]

 

[Blue__Balls]

Narrator: "it was not fine"

Anyone who claims they didn't read that in a Morgan Freeman voice is a dirty liar.

 

[Coops93]

Anyone who claims they didn't read that in a Morgan Freeman voice is a dirty liar.

Hmmm I didn't. I read it in the narrators voice from The Stanley Parable.

 

[Stamos]

I can’t see Leppa ever being a head coach again after his comments
Would make clubs very nervous

Yeah, it was a strange one. He's been very impressive in the media, but that seemed quite off.

 

[Stamos]

Anyone who claims they didn't read that in a Morgan Freeman voice is a dirty liar.

Ron Howard 100%

 

[myblueroan]

Hmmm I didn't. I read it in the narrators voice from The Stanley Parable.

I read it like Mr Ed.

 

[azlou]

I read it like Mr Ed.

Of course

 

[chunkylover53]

saying it in danny devito (matilda)'s voice is pretty humorous.

 

[bluesmell]

Anyone who claims they didn't read that in a Morgan Freeman voice is a dirty liar.

 

[Blue and Blue]

I'm fine and so's my wife

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Yep, she's damn fine

 

[Dramoth]

Anyone who claims they didn't read that in a Morgan Freeman voice is a dirty liar.

I am now… bastard!

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Hmmm I didn't. I read it in the narrators voice from The Stanley Parable.

Stanley Unwin, more like it.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Before the season everyone thought we were making finals, and you want the questions to have been asked then?

Halfway through the year we're a mess, and the soon-to-be President (who hasn't even officially taken over) has stepped in to ask for some honest feedback. He's obviously concerned by what he's heard.

Leppa can go jump - if players have concerns and that's manifesting on-field, then we need to get to the bottom of it ASAP. That doesn't mean the players are right, but asking questions is the starting point. Player A reckons so and so has been shafted at the selection table, Player B says the gameplan encourages attacking play but leaves us exposed defensively and the players are copping the blame...take those comments and dig deeper (through a review, perhaps...?) to establish how we fix those problems ASAP.

Maybe digging deeper identifies that the players are partly/wholly at fault.
Or that the coaches are, but they were unaware and just need support.
Or that they were aware and refused to adapt, and need a strong hand.
Or that a strong hand still won't help and they need to go.

None of that comes to light unless questions are asked. And the time to ask them is "as soon as you know you need to" not "6 months ago when everyone thought things were awesome".

It was reported they were ready to clean out the assistants before the season started and David Teague said no. That’s when they should have challenged him or at least ask the players questions. That’s what proactive clubs do.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Things went pear shaped in Round 2, and haven't been fixed since then.

Worse?
The only way things can get worse from here to the end of the season is if we lose required players.
And an external review into the Football Department is more likely to rectify problems and be able to keep required players on board, than letting things continue as is.

It’s pretty obvious that this so called review is predetermined. MLG pretty much said so. Teague is safe but the rest of them aren’t… what load of bs is that? I agree it was pear shaped then as well.. the players were at the club so why didn’t they ask questions then? The board is just going on the fly because of the push back from the supporters. The same supporters that wanted teague in the seat and are now wanting his head. It’s mob rule. This is not how you run an organisation. They’ve distracted all of us with this bs to save their own shells. It’s glaringly obvious.

 

[FairKouta]

Please no voss no leppa

 

[Arr0w]

It was reported they were ready to clean out the assistants before the season started and David Teague said no. That’s when they should have challenged him or at least ask the players questions. That’s what proactive clubs do.

How do you know that wasn't the case

 

[thebluenewdeal]

How do you know that wasn't the case

Because they’re asking the players questions now…

 

[Arr0w]

Because they’re asking the players questions now…

Different circumstances

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Different circumstances

I say Po-tay-to, you say Po-tah-to

 

[Blue Bloods]

Why is everyone in the media talking about dropping Docherty and saying he is a terrible captain.

Yes he has made a few mistakes this year, but in general has had a good consistent year