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Lenient or not, the AFL should have let the club deal with the matter internally.
I'm beginning to hear the outside opinion about the Blues. 1 more week would have meant little to to team, but a lot more to the football world. Let's get a little tougher and let people fight for their place.
 
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Not sure. He didn't start the fight and was defending his brother. The person he hit was also charged.

Didn't Hurley only get 2-3 weeks for bashing a cabbie?

I think Collingwood said they aren't going to do anything to Marley Williams either.
Marley Williams hasn't faced court yet nor pleaded guilty. So at present, the circumstances are somewhat different.
 
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Marley Williams hasn't faced court yet nor pleaded guilty. So at present, the circumstances are somewhat different.
Didn't stop people from telling us to sanction Scotland the moment it happened. I'm just drawing lines between other known occurrences to determine leniency. I don't really care what Collingwood do with Marley. It's a club decision and why should anybody else care about a club's culture or decision making process? Too many vultures circling when this stuff happens.
 

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Analysis finds Blues similar to 2006 Cats
In an analysis by Champion Data, which gives the Blues renewed hope of securing their first flag since 1995, it is felt Malthouse (below) has taken charge of a list capable of adopting the blueprint he used at his former club Collingwood.

The analysis has found Carlton's game plan last season was ''far from direct'' and ''had no distinct area of the ground in which it moved the ball''.
The data showed the Blues ranked mid-table in boundary, wing and corridor-midfield ball movement and were ''tentative forward of centre, kicking backwards or laterally more often than any other team''

''So, was the 10th placing a true reflection of where the Blues are at or was it just a hiccup, similar to that of Geelong in 2006?'' Champion Data asks.

''In 2004 and 2005 the Cats played finals and the expectations rose. But they fell away in 2006 and missed the finals, which led to an extensive post-season review in which Mark Thompson survived, but significant changes were made.

''After that review, it certainly clicked with the Cats playing in four of the next five grand final and winning three flags.

''So is this a similar case at Carlton? The common thought is that they have the list and 2012 was just a minor setback on the way to the Holy Grail.''
Analysis finds Blues similar to 2006 Cats



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CARLTON'S fresh bid to have Chris Judd's third-party deal with Visy returned to outside of the AFL salary cap has failed.

A meeting between AFL deputy chief executive Gil McLachlan, league executive Andrew Dillon, Blues chief executive Greg Swann and Judd's manager Paul Connors took place this week.
The Blues and Judd's management were seeking a compromise, but it is understood the AFL was not prepared to overturn its decision to exclude all of Judd's Visy payments - understood to be $200,000 per season - from the club's salary cap.

An AFL spokesman last night confirmed the meeting had taken place, but would not reveal details, saying there "would not be a running commentary" on the issue.

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Still "early doors".

Wait until February. :p
February will be when KB really starts getting on the Premiershipmond bandwagon and declaring them as the outright favourites to win the next 10 flags based on their stellar list of future Brownlow medalists and AA candidates...


Followed by a "isn't that right my precious... gollum"

Followed shortly after losing in Round 1 yet again by "Damn that Carlton... they stole my precious..."
 
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Where did you hear this (if I may) ODN?
In the aftermath. Apparently even the hotel backed the fact that a group of guys were being loud and needling Scotland's group. There was video footage apparently of the original fight.

Scotland's issue was that they had walked away but he was fired up because his brother had been hit and walked back over to hit the bloke. Definitely let his anger get the better of him and should have called the cops instead.
 

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There was video footage apparently of the original fight.
There was.

Definitely let his anger get the better of him and should have called the cops instead.
The attack, therefore, wasn't in defence of anyone. It might've been provoked - to some small extent - but it wasn't 'because' of his brother, and (to my understanding) it certainly wasn't proportionate.
 
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There was.

The attack, therefore, wasn't in defence of anyone. It might've been provoked - to some small extent - but it wasn't 'because' of his brother, and (to my understanding) it certainly wasn't proportionate.
No, but it wasn't a case of a big bad footballer deciding to hit somebody because he could either. Provocation, defence, why must we play this game of semantics. If someone hit your wife or child, a lot of people might be angered enough to go and hit them. Not defending violence, just mitigating the circumstances and the notion that Scotland hit some random bloke for no good reason.
 

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IMO the dickhead got his right whack. Why was he baiting Heath in the first place? Because he probably wanted a fight and when he gets his arse kicked sooks like a little girl.
Pisses me off when footballers are made out to be thugs when they snap, but no one knows just how much crap they have to put up with from flogs every time they go out.
 

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Guess the point is it was a bad decision, shouldn't have let it get the better of him yada yada yada. But Scotland isn't a bad seed (in general all evidence suggests a really good bloke actually). Just a very unfortunate occurance and he'll just have to take the punishment and move on.
 

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No, but it wasn't a case of a big bad footballer deciding to hit somebody because he could either. Provocation, defence, why must we play this game of semantics.
This isn't semantics - don't get precious. This is a leader of our club (king?) hitting a bloke.
If someone hit your wife or child, a lot of people might be angered enough to go and hit them.
Scotland's wife or child wasn't hit - and he was retaliating for a man who was arguably fully capable of diffusing the situation himself. And whilst the quote from the manager says Scotland 'went out of his way to stay under the radar', it doesn't say the same for his brother.

Watch the company you keep.

I'd assume if one had lost a wife or child in this situation, (not that I have) you'd appreciate the gravity more.

But that's not what I care about - he's lost his focus on the club, and the club has lost (whatever little) focus because of him.

Not defending violence, just mitigating the circumstances and the notion that Scotland hit some random bloke for no good reason.
I'm failing to see the 'good' in Scotland's reasoning.

IMO the dickhead got his right whack. Why was he baiting Heath in the first place? Because he probably wanted a fight and when he gets his arse kicked sooks like a little girl.
Too true. But as I understand it, it's a stretch to say Scotland was 'fighting'.
 
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