Coach Carlton under Voss

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[Enviable Tradition]

We were all aware how Crazy Vossy went at Brisbane yet Carlton ploughed ahead regardless. It was a bizarre appointment at the time and looks worse now.

Oh well, at least Cripps got the 3 votes last night.

They were seduced by the cult of Ken Hinkley. We understand how that feels.

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[Enviable Tradition]

Carlton won't sack Voss. Not yet.

They will stubbornly keep him for the next 3 seasons due to the shame of not wanting to sack another coach.

Then they will hire Damian Drum on a 6 year deal.

8 more years for the full Hinkley experience

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[iameviljez]

Would you take Bucks after the Mick debacle?

Buckley did coach a bits-n-pieces side to within two minutes of a flag, in fairness.

 

[Pistol Night]

Buckley did coach a bits-n-pieces side to within two minutes of a flag, in fairness.

Yeah i think i remember that..

 

[iameviljez]

Yeah i think i remember that..

Apologies for bringing it up again. But I won't cover your therapy.

 

[Cam Payne]

Whoever suggested Pyke needs to shut the hell up. He is doing a great job at WC and must remain there as long as possible.

 

[iameviljez]

Whoever suggested Pyke needs to shut the hell up. He is doing a great job at WC and must remain there as long as possible.

It's wonderful to see a Fremantle supporter being so magnanimous and supportive of West Coast. Truly a testament to the Australian spirit!

 

[Rabish Binney]

Because he can't coach.

There was an article which mentioned when he arrived and how he sat down with the players and asked them what kind of game style they would like to play.

At the time I thought who the **** cares what the players want. You're the coach, you're the one that has to come up with the game plan to bear other teams game plans.

Voss is utterly clueless when it comes to that aspect of the game.

He's the league's easiest coach to out coach.

He didn't really say that surely?

 

[Bostonian]

He didn't really say that surely?

According to the article he did speak to players about game play/style.

This isn't the exact article but it points out he's asking the players what they felt would be important. I mean who cares what they think, that's one of the biggest problems at the club, they care too much what the players think and let them control narratives.

Rather than working out for himself what needs to be improved, he got his insight from the players and then was going to implement their views.


"Voss underwent a long and thorough process of speaking to his playing group individually in his first few days at the club, feeling out where they were in their career development and enquiring about what they felt would be important to move the side forward. From there, he gleaned a better insight into what needed to improve and how quickly that improvement could take place."


Shit coach.

 

[DaTBird187]

Ken Hinkley's cunning plan to white ant other clubs with his useless gameplan claims another victim.

St Kilda
Carlton

Next Chad Cornes to coach Western Bulldogs.

 

[The Hobo]

He's in big trouble. They've got a good list that should be competing for top 4, yet scraped into finals and lost their only final.

The spine is probably as good as they get, Jones, Weitering, Walsh, TDK, Cripps, Curnow and McKay. I really can't think of a team with a better spine.

0-4 means top 4 is already essentially out of the equation (barring a massive run of wins).

Again, like many many teams this season, fitness appears to be a problem. I can't recall a season where i've seen so many teams with players absolutely cooked in the third quarter - particularly this many games into the season. Have the game plans got even more demanding?

 

[Stumpy Pete]

He's in big trouble. They've got a good list that should be competing for top 4, yet scraped into finals and lost their only final.

The spine is probably as good as they get, Jones, Weitering, Walsh, TDK, Cripps, Curnow and McKay. I really can't think of a team with a better spine.

0-4 means top 4 is already essentially out of the equation (barring a massive run of wins).

Again, like many many teams this season, fitness appears to be a problem. I can't recall a season where i've seen so many teams with players absolutely cooked in the third quarter - particularly this many games into the season. Have the game plans got even more demanding?

My understanding is that the number of weeks that players are available to the club and the numbers of hours in those weeks has been declining under bargaining arrangements. This may well mean that the difference in fitness levels comes from player discipline and commitment outside of those (not saying this has never been the case but perhaps it matters more now than previously).

This suggests that clubs need to recruit players who generally show such discipline and commitment and then create an environment where players want to do that extra work for a sustained period of time.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Mr.X]

Who is available right now?

Buckley
Longmire
Simpson
Bevo (uncontracted?)
Kenny

Not sure any of these candidates would be much of an improvement?

 

[demondavey]

10 points total

Be different if CALLUM URCH was playing

 

[Percel]

Be different if CALLUM URCH was playing

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRCHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Atomboy]

By asking Ross to actually present a case as to why he should be coach?

The Blues got it ass about.

They should have been presenting a case as to why Ross should coach them.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The Blues got it ass about.

They should have been presenting a case as to why Ross should coach them.

Why's that? Where have the Saints finished the last few years under RTB?

 

[Taper]

Serious chance for bottom 4 make no mistake.

North are more competitive this year and already have 1 win, and West Coast ran Brisbane to a few goals at the Gabba a week ago, wouldn't be penciling in that one at a neutral venue. Wouldn't be surprised if we lost to both and went 0-6, then the real fun starts fixture-wise.

At least Carlton have the draft to look forward to so they can reload and look at bouncing back next year.
Look at Adelaide they had a bad year last year and have bounced back strongly this year.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

At least Carlton have the draft to look forward to so they can reload and look at bouncing back next year.
Look at Adelaide they had a bad year last year and have bounced back strongly this year.

Yep, Harry Dean and Jack Ison look like guns!

 

[Atomboy]

Why's that? Where have the Saints finished the last few years under RTB?

Because the Blues are a graveyard for coaches

 

[Borussia Teeth]

As said Blues have all been found out nowadays.

Blue their chance in 2023.

Dark times ahead.

From reports Steve Silvaghi and Greg Williams are looking to throw his hat in the ring and become coach.

Bit of soul searching now.

Carlton are the new Essendon and vicer verser.

Both are battlers.

About as much as you are battling with the English language.

 

[Mr.X]

At least Carlton have the draft to look forward to so they can reload and look at bouncing back next year.
Look at Adelaide they had a bad year last year and have bounced back strongly this year.

Blues draft hand this year is terrible, traded away picks to move up the order.

They need to trade out a player with currency to get some decent picks in

Like what happened at Brisbane - Voss and co traded away decent picks due to overrating the list, and left the club in the wilderness

Tough times ahead

 

[Mr.X]

And 2023 the writing was on the wall.

If blues lose this week against eagles, the writing will turn into bright neon lights announcing Voss has the “full support of the board”

We all know what comes next

 

[Mr.X]

Serious chance for bottom 4 make no mistake.

North are more competitive this year and already have 1 win, and West Coast ran Brisbane to a few goals at the Gabba a week ago, wouldn't be penciling in that one at a neutral venue. Wouldn't be surprised if we lost to both and went 0-6, then the real fun starts fixture-wise.

Bottom 6 is very likely, last couple of wins helped, test is this week against the Cats

A poor showing this week will likely put finals out of reach