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Discussion in 'Carlton' started by Aphrodite, May 13, 2017.
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Sunday 1 Oct @6:30 PM
Do any of you know which of the emergencies is flying over?
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Agro said Boek was on the plane but didn't know about the others .
Barass70 intimated he will play back this week so we may yet get our wish
So, if Weitering did go back, what happens?
Disrupt the continuity of the back 6?
Wouldn't we be way too tall? Send Marchbank forward because Weitering didn't cut it?
.............................Docherty Rowe Plowman
.........................Weitering ASilvagni Marchbank......??????
I don't know. When the crunch comes, I think Weitering stays where he is, unless he's just finding it too hard.
Weitering freed up on the wing? I'd like to see that..
For the old schoolies out there:
"Richie bursts from the pack handballs to potsy who gives to Ralph malph he switches play and kicks to the fat side and finds the fonz he bounces once,twice dummies around kicks inside 50 to CHACHI!!!,quick handball back to Richie who fires for goal......cunnnnniiiggghhhammmmmmm.Magnificent transference of the air conveyance.Blues on the board great play Richie.
Not sure what will happen but obviously one tall will need to go forward? Then again it may be why White was dropped? Height and run doesn't seem to matter at the moment as we are playing a very controlled possession game. Not a lot of run and attack at the moment.
As Bolts said it's about development for Weitering so he can play both ends. He's now had 8 games forward and in our side that isn't easy. I'd just like to see him go back and get a few touches and play with a bit of freedom again.
You mentioned continuity and fair enough but I would love to see Weitering Marchbank Plowman Docherty all play together for an extended period. IMO that is the basis for our defence for the next 8-10 years and it could be our best ever.
Not a stretch at all. Levi also played better when Jones was in the side.
Mork from the planet Ork umpiring and the Tuscadero sisters in the stands?
Who knows, as others may make their way into the back-line.
That does look to be a very expensive starting point for a back-line, though.
No matter what the TPP may be, it will always be a squeeze fitting in all the talent you may want across the squad and I'm not sure it should be weighted into the back half of the ground.
Joanie died a couple weeks back
I have no idea on that stuff. I am just a believer that great defences win flags. That defence with a strong midfield will be hard to beat especially in big games. What I like is that defence is also very attacking. All find their own ball and use it well. Add Byrne & Macreadie (I forgot Williamson) and its one talented back six with depth, possibly as good as Carlton has ever had. Whichever way Bolts works it we have that area well covered.
Once we get to the stage, where midfield like players are selected on HBF's then we are ready to challenge. That will ultimately show how deep our list is
Great midfields win flags too.......as does a great forward line.
Generally speaking though, great teams win premierships.
The point is that if your back-line is costing you more than your midfield or your forward line, something may not be quite right.
Agree. Probably my poor wording but I believe you build a great side with the defence and mid as the focus. Get that right and anything can happen. Amazing how any forward line can function if you get that right. Been a long while since a really top level looking forward line has won a flag.
Backlines win flags,granted a good midfield helps but ultimately it's the backline that determines results especially in finals.Look at hawthorns recruiting with lake,Gibson,Burgoyne,Birchall etc then Geelong with Scarlett,Kelly,Taylor, etc I'm not saying all the time but your defence is the first line of attack.If you were to look at every side you'll see a trend of what's now called the quarterback rebound of half back.
Tuohy,Docherty,Zjones,Johansen,murphybob,Yeo,Polec,roberton etc.just to name a few.If you were to pick our most IMPORTANT player(not best) in our side,who would you pick?
Bulldogs won a flag with discard KPDs and one genuine gun rebounding defender.
Backlines don't win flags.
Team defence and elite ball movement do.
At this stage, Doc, he is our designated quarterback you speak of and has all the attributes to set up our first line of attack. As we progress as a side, he will be unleashed to become a more offensive force
Where are the Hooper triplets?
The Carlton teams of old were blessed with great back-lines and that's what we remember, but we can forget that the attacks weren't shabby either.
The back-line has to be good but it doesn't have to be 'rich' to do its job.
You can't say "backline win flags" .
Different teams have different styles.
The WCE had a good backline in 2006 but without any one of Judd, Cousins or Kerr they don't win that flag, no chance.
The Brisbane 3 peat was as much (or more IMO) about the fantastic 4 than their supreme backline.
Ya reckon! I remember having Rod Galt & Peter Brown along with Percy Jones as our key forward targets in Premiership years. Ross Ditchburn looked good but got knocked out early in a GF.
Games changed so much in last 5-10 years. Run and create from defence and through the midfield is now the key both with and without the ball.
Agree plus Weitering & Williamson are elite ball users and Byrne will add even more. Nice to have options
Yeh good call can he win the b&f....big chance if he stays fit.Doc,murph,Cripps the others at this stage.