List Mgmt. Carlton's 2018 Draft Thread II

[Jimmae]

Very interesting to see confirmation from SOS himself that we ranked him 6...i reckon of the top 7 either Rozzee or B.King would have been the ones we rated below Stocker...Rozzee likely only went that high because Port wanted a SA lad and B.King could fall below Stocker due to our need for a mid.

Would love to know where the other 17 clubs rated Stocker. Seemingly none as high as us.

By the sounds of it we rated Rankine 2, Lukosius 3.

Would appear we were prioritising midfield ability, running ability and kicking skills.

 

[F_therest]

By the sounds of it we rated Rankine 2, Lukosius 3.

Would appear we were prioritising midfield ability, running ability and kicking skills.

Character and competitiveness seem to be high on our wish list as well.

Question marks on Rankine in that regard but clearly his talent alone seems to far outstrip any others so it's one of the factors that may have knocked him back to second place.

Love how mature and driven Walsh and Stocker appear...can see them both having big impacts maybe as early as 2020.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

You had to grab Walsh in our situation. Quite simply we take the best available wilt the lowest risk..cannot afford a big bust! Walsh will be beaut.

 

[mediumsizered]

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2018-12-06/inner-sanctum-blues-get-their-man

How good is this? The club's media department is kicking a lot of goals lately.

I like SOS' refusal to pull the trigger on the trade until Stocker made it to pick 19. Also had a quiet chuckle at Reid's attempt to find out which player SOS had in mind for that pick.

 

[HARKER]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-12-10/draft-night-drama-tension-builds-as-saints-try-to-do-a-deal

This again clearly shows we have some way to go before we get our heads around live trading.
I thought we were a little sloppy at times but The Saints here show up to be so much more so.
Anyway, good on them for allowing the footage to air.

 

[footyfan1978]

Harder to follow that video but in the confusion I think Crows were happy to trade pick 19 for Saints for Saints future 1st and pick 36 but Saints only interested to throw in pick 36 if future 1st rounders were swapped but Crows were not offering future 1st back to them. As the Saint guy said, Crows were kidding themselves. Cheeky of Reid

 

[HARKER]

It showed up something much more important to me.

Our executive sat there largely silent. No noise from Lloyd, Liddle, Judd and very little from the coach, Bolton.
The people charged with List Management were list managing.

The Saints had Allan throwing in his two cents worth and Richardson telling his guys what to do. I'm glad that's not us any more.

 

[Kramer1]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-12-10/draft-night-drama-tension-builds-as-saints-try-to-do-a-deal

This again clearly shows we have some way to go before we get our heads around live trading.
I thought we were a little sloppy at times but The Saints here show up to be so much more so.
Anyway, good on them for allowing the footage to air.

Yep. That was a shit show. Pretty sure Lethlean was playing Tetrus.

 

[footyfan1978]

That is going to happen if you less sure of what you might be doing. SOS made it clear from start in our room, the only thing we doing is going for Stocker. No grey area and we only doing it when Crows on the clock. Does not surprise me Saints were less certain of what they doing and therefore more input from others. It is what I expected most clubs to be like on first time of live draft trading.

 

[footyfan1978]

Lethlean was playing Donkey Kong and quite well I may add.

 

[IronMan29]

Lethlean was playing Donkey Kong and quite well I may add.

Funnist thing I've heard in a long time.....Richo thinking King saying it was a life long dream to pull on Saints colors is worth 10K members.

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[footyfan1978]

That was sad reach by Richo. Cringe worthy and not his finest moment.

 

[Soapy V]

Really interesting we had Stocker at 6. Can’t find any other people that might have had him so high. Doesn’t seem many clubs did either. Have to back in our group. They know more than us. Rated 6 in a strong draft is impressive. To add Walsh & Stocker and keep a first round pick is awesome.

 

[Gavstar]

Really interesting we had Stocker at 6. Can’t find any other people that might have had him so high. Doesn’t seem many clubs did either. Have to back in our group. They know more than us. Rated 6 in a strong draft is impressive. To add Walsh & Stocker and keep a first round pick is awesome.

Perhaps he was rated 6 for us based on our needs rather than 6th best in the draft. What interests me was where sat vs Smith..

eg 1 Walsh 2 Rankine 3 Lukosious 4 Smith 5 Rozee 6 Stocker?

 

[Soapy V]

Perhaps he was rated 6 for us based on our needs rather than 6th best in the draft. What interests me was where sat vs Smith..

eg 1 Walsh 2 Rankine 3 Lukosious 4 Smith 5 Rozee 6 Stocker?

I don’t think clubs rate players in top 10 on needs. Purely best player

My guess is Walsh Lukosius Rankine Caldwell Smith Stocker

 

[Blue and Blue]

Really interesting we had Stocker at 6. Can’t find any other people that might have had him so high. Doesn’t seem many clubs did either. Have to back in our group. They know more than us. Rated 6 in a strong draft is impressive. To add Walsh & Stocker and keep a first round pick is awesome.

I like to look at it as we also drafted Setterfield. Ok it was a trade technically but to all intents and purposes....Great stuff all round.

 

[Funk]

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2018-12-06/inner-sanctum-blues-get-their-man

Compare this video to the ST Kilda version.

SOS had all his ducks in a row with conversations and potential deals discussed with other clubs 4 days prior.

Saints were like a drunk throwing darts at a wall hoping they would hit something.

Completely clueless.

 

[Soapy V]

I like to look at it as we also drafted Setterfield. Ok it was a trade technically but to all intents and purposes....Great stuff all round.

Yep. Not just depth to a position we need filling but all are elite talents. I rate Setterfield up with anyone we have drafted.

Most good sides have 2-3 top end players then good players.

Cripps Dow SPS Setterfield Walsh Stocker O’Brien is something very special

 

[Jimmae]

Compare this video to the ST Kilda version.

SOS had all his ducks in a row with conversations and potential deals discussed with other clubs 4 days prior.

Saints were like a drunk throwing darts at a wall hoping they would hit something.

Completely clueless.

Easy to see looking at their list over the last few years, as well as what happened later in the draft, though they had the right idea in their early targets.

Watching that video now, it seems Adelaide think we're going to absolutely tank again this season.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Only at St Kilda
Inept...pure comedy ... they pick King and arent even sure of it nor excited....Oh dear..and all downhill from there

 

[Arr0w]

Easy to see looking at their list over the last few years, as well as what happened later in the draft, though they had the right idea in their early targets.

Watching that video now, it seems Adelaide think we're going to absolutely tank again this season.

Or both Saints and us, see the Crows not improving?

 

[Soapy V]

I'm going with us finishing 12-15th and Crows 10-14th

 

[Jimmae]

Or both Saints and us, see the Crows not improving?

I'm not speaking in terms of the outcome I believe in, simply that Adelaide clearly thought very little of our list's capabilities for 2019 at the time of the trade compared to St Kilda.

 

[Arr0w]

I'm not speaking in terms of the outcome I believe in, simply that Adelaide clearly thought very little of our list's capabilities for 2019 at the time of the trade compared to St Kilda.

Well that could be to their downfall

 

[HARKER]

I don’t think clubs rate players in top 10 on needs. Purely best player
My guess is Walsh Lukosius Rankine Caldwell Smith Stocker

That sentence hasn't been completed: Purely best player....For Carlton

Isn't that evident enough already?