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List Mgmt. Carlton's 2019 Draft Thread

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for the draft watchers:

does this years crop look better than last years for depth? also are "Draft analysts" **** stirring or talking up anderson and rowell when saying they are better than walsh?

No where near it, I think last year's first round is the best I have see in 2 decades

This year reminds me of 2016, very even with Anderson being the standout
 
Rowell and Anderson better than Walsh as some have said?
Rowell is going to be a very good player, but he is a bit of a 'manchild' & may come back to the field a bit when he moves into AFL ranks.

I've only seen Anderson once & he didn't look anywhere near where Walsh was at last year. He certainly doesn't seem to have the work rate of Walsh.
 
Rowell is going to be a very good player, but he is a bit of a 'manchild' & may come back to the field a bit when he moves into AFL ranks.

I've only seen Anderson once & he didn't look anywhere near where Walsh was at last year. He certainly doesn't seem to have the work rate of Walsh.
Anderson has a massive work rate and is a running machine, not sure where you got that impression
 

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He said in comparison to Walsh, who is a freak. Anderson might still have a very good work rate....
Anderson is also a freak, one of his top attributes is his workrate, averaging 32 touches and 2 goals a game
 
Rowell was really impressive against VFL Casey Demons at the MCG last Saturday, he was the standout player playing midfield for the Aust U18's didn't look out of place...
 
It's quite interesting for so many desperate to call out this player or that, as being better than Walsh.

I don't recall seeing something like this before, although we have developed the McCluggage and Taranto are better than McGrath thing now, but at least that didn't start off before the player played AFL, or before the player had a good block of games behind them.

Why the desperation?
 
It's quite interesting for so many desperate to call out this player or that, as being better than Walsh.

I don't recall seeing something like this before, although we have developed the McCluggage and Taranto are better than McGrath thing now, but at least that didn't start off before the player played AFL, or before the player had a good block of games behind them.

Why the desperation?

I almost wrote something like this on another board.
 

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Marlion Pickett, I think we should really go hard after this guy in the mid season draft. Goal kicking midfielder that can rest forward.

It's interesting that we pick up players such as O'Dwyer and Cottrell, that frankly look miles away from meaningful efforts, yet dodge around some that may have had a more and quicker impact at the club.

If we 'reach' for another tall defender........I'll......probably laugh.
 
It's interesting that we pick up players such as O'Dwyer and Cottrell, that frankly look miles away from meaningful efforts, yet dodge around some that may have had a more and quicker impact at the club.

If we 'reach' for another tall defender........I'll......probably laugh.

Another player I loved for years and maybe have to accept will never make it was Haiden Schloithe and he just smashed the Eagles WAFL team. He looked bloody good as well, so not sure if he is an option.
 
So it's not just me then?

It may just be something that's going to permeate into discussions on an on-going basis, but there's a little bit of oneupmanship about it.
2020's draftees are going to be so much better than Anderson etc etc. Almost feels disingenuous at times.

I have noticed it a lot around the place. Maybe I am reading too many other boards about draft prospects, maybe it is happening on the Adelaide board a heap.

Maybe Carlton having a good player with their first pick is the issue?

I just remember going into last years draft, there were at least six or so standout players that looked like they could be pick 1's in any previous year that I could remember.

Luko - Best mobile tall forward I've seen as a junior for years.
Rankine - The most dynamic small forward/burst midfielder I have ever seen personally.
Walsh - Up there with Whitfield/Kelly for tank and ability to find the ball, loved all these players pre draft. I think Whitfield was the best kick out of all these players pre draft
King twins - Two of the biggest and mobile talls for a long time. That was the main difference between them and a Patton/Boyd is their mobility. I always liked Hipwood due to his mobility, just questioned his aggression and ability to build a solid frame.
Rozee - Elite speed and user of the ball and was around the mark coming into last season and took a while to show his true ability but dominated at SANFL level late in the season.

Those 6 names alone could be pick 1 in most draft years, it was just an insanely talented top end of the draft.
 
I have noticed it a lot around the place. Maybe I am reading too many other boards about draft prospects, maybe it is happening on the Adelaide board a heap.

Maybe Carlton having a good player with their first pick is the issue?

I just remember going into last years draft, there were at least six or so standout players that looked like they could be pick 1's in any previous year that I could remember.

Luko - Best mobile tall forward I've seen as a junior for years.
Rankine - The most dynamic small forward/burst midfielder I have ever seen personally.
Walsh - Up there with Whitfield/Kelly for tank and ability to find the ball, loved all these players pre draft. I think Whitfield was the best kick out of all these players pre draft
King twins - Two of the biggest and mobile talls for a long time. That was the main difference between them and a Patton/Boyd is their mobility. I always liked Hipwood due to his mobility, just questioned his aggression and ability to build a solid frame.
Rozee - Elite speed and user of the ball and was around the mark coming into last season and took a while to show his true ability but dominated at SANFL level late in the season.

Those 6 names alone could be pick 1 in most draft years, it was just an insanely talented top end of the draft.

For sure and then the others don't look too bad either even at this early stage; Smith, Duursma, Caldwell (even though he hasn't played yet), Blakey, Clark.
I didn't like Thomas and Hately as much as other, but I guess they'll be good also amongst plenty of others including our own, Stocker.

Plenty of talent alright. GC would be a little disappointed for not having any of their three top six selection playing right now, though.
I know there's time, but just the same - It's a pity for them.
 
Have I read somewhere we may be interested in Dunkley’s brother in mid season draft?

Someone told me he had 40 disposals in young guns game.

Interesting Sydney currently hold pick 1 and his dad played for them and they are desperate for mids.
 

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Have I read somewhere we may be interested in Dunkley’s brother in mid season draft?

Someone told me he had 40 disposals in young guns game.

Interesting Sydney currently hold pick 1 and his dad played for them and they are desperate for mids.
Sydney have a few mid options they just seemingly refuse to actually play them in the midfield much ....

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...e/news-story/9a5204daebbac1032a00eb109205d71c

Profile on 11 youngsters vying for mid-season rookie spots - mostly kids overlooked last year and now playing as overagers in u18 comp.

Not a huge help to us, as we don't really need more kids. IMO we'd be better off picking up 1-2 high-output mature state league players, ie more along the lines of Gibbons than Cottrell.

To argue against myself though....Let's say there's a couple of kids that were overlooked in last year's draft and are killing it this year. For argument's sake, let's hypothesise that they end up being drafted at 25-40 in this year's draft. If you're in the bottom two teams mid-year, why not pick up a kid mid-year? You'd effectively be getting an extra 2nd-3rd round pick 'for free'. And better than using that 'spare' pick on the 100th best rated kid at the end of the year.
 
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...e/news-story/9a5204daebbac1032a00eb109205d71c

Profile on 11 youngsters vying for mid-season rookie spots - mostly kids overlooked last year and now playing as overagers in u18 comp.

Not a huge help to us, as we don't really need more kids. IMO we'd be better off picking up 1-2 high-output mature state league players, ie more along the lines of Gibbons than Cottrell.

To argue against myself though....Let's say there's a couple of kids that were overlooked in last year's draft and are killing it this year. For argument's sake, let's hypothesise that they end up being drafted at 25-40 in this year's draft. If you're in the bottom two teams mid-year, why not pick up a kid mid-year? You'd effectively be getting an extra 2nd-3rd round pick 'for free'. And better than using that 'spare' pick on the 100th best rated kid at the end of the year.

Wanted Hanrahan late in last year's draft, wouldn't be disappointed if we added him. Interestingly Munn is a die-hard Blues supporter, but I doubt we would take another tall at this stage who is not a ruckman
 
Not a huge help to us, as we don't really need more kids. IMO we'd be better off picking up 1-2 high-output mature state league players, ie more along the lines of Gibbons than Cottrell.

I agree. But only if they're actually ready to come into the senior side and make a difference. Because if not, we might as well go for the most talented young player we can find.
 
I can't see there being much point drafting a youngster in the mid-season draft as they are probably not going to be ready to have an impact at AFL level at all this season. Players who have previously been on an AFL list & are currently playing in the VFL/SANFL/WAFL are going to be more likely to transition to AFL level in time to play some AFL football this season, if required.
 
Can't believe the group think that we will be after a "plug & play" type. The chances of a player taken mid year having immediate impact are slim overall. Other than the "mature" mids who I doubt we would bring in if we aren't currently playing Kennedy and Setterfield was not automatic inclusion last week.
We need list build for the long term, not a 10 game band aid.

Of the "untried" types, I would agree Angus Hanrahan should be in calculations, Perhaps midget Mitch Maguire being the other. I still like Sam Fisher from Northern Blues, who was on Sydney rookie list. Frank Anderson has shown a bit, but a long way from dominant, so at this early stage, I would pass. If we were to go for a hard-nosed inside top up option, surely we would give Matt Hanson a shot, rather than displace an interstater.

I really liked Jeremy Goddard as the best ruck prospect in his draft year. At 21 has started the year strongly in the WAFL, so would be a free hit at a young semi developed ruckman at 202cm. Short term would create even more list imbalance, so I would look at trying to encourage Matt Lobbe to take early retirement. A bit "unpleasant, I know, but he and Phillips are not really adequate at the moment. Or we just rotate Lobbe and Phillips as a second emergency each week.

Of the more mature possibilities Cory Gregson would have to be in the mix if he has overcome his foot issues. Couldn't discount Nathan Freeman, again if the body is over issues. The slightly left field is Mitch Hibberd, now playing in the midfield at Williamstown after a premature exit from North Melbourne, again due to injury issues. Playing inside after plying his trade as a rebounding, running half back/wing. Quick, athletic and 191cm. We are heading for a potential HBF shortage when Simmo and Daisy hang them up. Could be a very good option.

I have "bolded" the players I personally would short list, but we would go mad trying to second guess SOS and co.
 

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