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On first glance the team I'd approach would be North Melbourne. Where would you expect them to finish next year? Somewhere around the middle eg. Pick 10? See if the take our pick 9 for their future first and pick 26 or 27 this year?
Why would North do that? They already traded out this years 1st to Melbourne for a 1st next year.
 

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On first glance the team I'd approach would be North Melbourne. Where would you expect them to finish next year? Somewhere around the middle eg. Pick 10? See if the take our pick 9 for their future first and pick 26 or 27 this year?

North, Freo, Essendon could all be around that mark. Adelaide look likely to slide and would be a great pickup if possible. But would any of them be interested in our pick? I have no idea.

Haha. After assuming all year that we would trade our (Adelaide's) 1st pick for an established player, we end trade week with it left in our hands.

And what is our next thought? Let's trade it for a 2020 first and change!

I don't disagree with the idea, just find it funny.

What has that poor pick done to us to make us hate it so much? Does it smell like Adelaide? :p

The appeal for me is that it would be consistent with our strategy. OK, we missed out this year, but if we turn it into currency which we can spend next year then we don't end up losing much. Papley in 2019 + another key acquisition in 2020 vs 2 key acquisitions in 2020. All we'd have lost in the end would be one season's input from one player.
 
I'm not going back through 36 pages to look for him, but has anyone posted anything on Sam Flanders yet?

Is there even the remotest chance of him sliding to us at pick 9?

I think he finished off the year quite strongly with some outstanding performances.

I'd say he's probably gone before our selection.
 
September Update:

1. Matt Rowell
2. Dylan Williams
3. Noah Anderson
4. Brodie Kemp
5. Devan Robertson
6. Fischer McAsey
7. Luke Jackson
8. Will Gould
9. Hayden Young
10. Lachie Ashe
11. Tom Green
12. Liam Henry
13. Harry Schoenberg
14. Dylan Stephens
15. Sam DeKonning
16. Finn MaGinniss
17.Sam Flanders
18. Caleb Serong
19. Ky Pickett
20. Charlie Comben
21. Elijah Taylor
22. Trent Rivers
23. Jeremy Sharp
24. Nick Bryan
25. Cody Weightman


Very tough to order. I have significant queries over every player. I know you could say that about every draftee in every year, but i say that on a comparitive scale. Really interested to see if all the phantom's and public recruiters opinions largely merge as the draft nears like normal this year, or if large divergences occur.

Can only go with your own opinion, and this is mine at this stage.


Instead of reading the Bluemour thread the last 2 days, i decided to do something productive with my time and update my one man's opinion Rankings from last month, and do a totally too early Phantom Top 25 lol.

Updated rankings:

1. Matt Rowell
2. Dylan Williams
3. Noah Anderson
4. Brodie Kemp
5. Devan Robertson
6. Fisher McAsey
7. Luke Jackson
8. Tom Green
9, Hayden Young
10. Sam Flanders
11. Finn Maginess
12. Will Gould
13. Dylan Stephens
14. Harry Schoenburg
15. Lachie Ash
16. Liam Henry
17. Caleb Serong
18. Sam DeKonning
19. Charlie Comben
20. Ky Pickett
21. Elijah Taylor
22. Cody Weightman
23. Trent Rivers
24. Nick Bryan
25. Jeremy Sharp
 
Phantom Draft: with a few reasons why

1. GC. M.Rowell - Best Available (B.A)
2. GC. N.Anderson - B.A plus combo
3. GWS. H.Young - fit
4. Ad: B.Kemp - B.A
5. GWS: T.Green B.A plus Canberra boy
6. Syd: C.Serong
7. Mel: S.Flanders
8. Fre: D.Stephens - pace n run. No Hill/Langdon
9. Mel: L.Ashe - run n pace
10. Car: D.Robertson -B.A mid W.A
11. Fre: L.Jackson
12: Haw: F.McAsey - B.A KPP
13. PA: W.Gould - B.A, S.A
14, WB: C. Weightman - fit
15. Fre: L.Henry
16. Haw: F.Maginness
17. Gee: D.Williams - B.A
18. GC: H.Schoenburg- B.A, Mid, Woodville boy same as Luko
19. BL: C. Stephens
20. Gee: J.Worrell
21. PA: C.Taheny
22. R: S.DeKonning
23. GC: W.Day
24. BL: T.Rivers
25. Fre: J.Sharp
 
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Phantom Draft:

1. GC. M.Rowell
2. GC. N.Anderson
3. GWS. H.Young
4. Ad: B.Kemp
5. GWS: T.Green
6. Syd: C.Serong
7. Mel: S.Flanders
8. Fre: D.Stephens
9. Mel: L.Ashe
10. Car: D.Robertson
11. Fre: L.Jackson
12: Haw: F.McAsey
13. PA: W.Gould
14, WB: C. Weightman
15. Fre: L.Henry
16. Haw: F.Maginness
17. Gee: D.Williams
18. GC: H.Schoenburg
19. BL: C. Stephens
20. Gee: J.Worrell
21. PA: C.Taheny
22. R: S.DeKonning
23. GC: W.Day
24. BL: T.Rivers
25. Fre: J.Sharp

Terry, like that you I think it is worthwhile laying out how you rate them and where they may fall

Great job
 

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Admittedly, I don't know anything about this Sharp guy.

I do, though, remember reading reports about complacency drifting into Rozee's game halfway through his draft year. The kid knew he was going to get drafted highly regardless.

Still had a fantastic debut year.

Not all kids are Walsh.
Unfair on Rozee. He got better as the year went on in his draft year.
 
I think he finished off the year quite strongly with some outstanding performances.

I'd say he's probably gone before our selection.
Unfortunately, that's what I am thinking as well the more I check on him. I reckon Flanders is going the be the reason why Melbourne has no interest at all in Martin. If he managed to slide to us, I am hoping that SOS and Agresta grab him before Gill the Dill have finished announcing time for Carlton's pick.
 
Admittedly, I don't know anything about this Sharp guy.

I do, though, remember reading reports about complacency drifting into Rozee's game halfway through his draft year. The kid knew he was going to get drafted highly regardless.

Still had a fantastic debut year.

Not all kids are Walsh.

Rozee had shoulder issues that weren't openly reported.

Sharp is extremely talented but conditional, I wouldn't risk it, especially if he is playing possum to remain in WA
 
Terry, like that you I think it is worthwhile laying out how you rate them and where they may fall

Great job
Arrow.....first off if you were SOS would you keep or trade pick 9........and secondly who would you look at taking with that pick......just wondering, because even though he is injured and will most likely miss 2020, I like the fact that Kemp could end up being the big bodied mid that we have been looking for as well as the fact that he can play up forward or down back due to his size.........you seem to know your footy horse flesh, so what do you reckon.......... :think:
 

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This is the first year in God knows how long I have put no effort into learning about this year's draft pool thinking that pick 9 is gone and it didn't matter. All I knew I'd the top 2 were sorted and of GCS got a priority pick then Melbourne weren't gonna be pleased because its pretty even from pick 3 onwards in the first round. That pleased me no end considering we swapped picks with Adelaide so that trade again was a good move considering (at least at this stage) there isn't much between picks 4 - 9. Also I typically rate Knightmare and he's saying pick 9 is a real sweet spot to be at in the draft so pretty pumped we are gonna get some talent here. Being on pick 9 plus Jack Martin and Newnes for free.
 
I would love to take Kemp if we keep 9, as he could be the big bodied mid we're crying out for.

The ACL is a real concern, but we already have 90% of our young core in place, so we can afford to take a high risk - high reward option if we so please.

For those who follow the NBA, I see it as similar to how the Nuggets took Michael Porter Jr. last year, if he never gets over his injuries, it isn't a huge deal since they already have a good, young roster, however if he does get over his injuries and comes on they'll have added a top 5 talent at a bargain price.
 
What about young Quirk as a late pick or rookie?


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I'm keen. After looking somewhat tentative in his 1st game for the Northern Blues, he improved in each subsequent game. He reads the game well, is a good user & generally demonstrates good footy smarts.
 
This is the first year in God knows how long I have put no effort into learning about this year's draft pool thinking that pick 9 is gone and it didn't matter. All I knew I'd the top 2 were sorted and of GCS got a priority pick then Melbourne weren't gonna be pleased because its pretty even from pick 3 onwards in the first round. That pleased me no end considering we swapped picks with Adelaide so that trade again was a good move considering (at least at this stage) there isn't much between picks 4 - 9. Also I typically rate Knightmare and he's saying pick 9 is a real sweet spot to be at in the draft so pretty pumped we are gonna get some talent here. Being on pick 9 plus Jack Martin and Newnes for free.
I think that a lot of us were in the same boat.
 
I would love to take Kemp if we keep 9, as he could be the big bodied mid we're crying out for.

The ACL is a real concern, but we already have 90% of our young core in place, so we can afford to take a high risk - high reward option if we so please.

For those who follow the NBA, I see it as similar to how the Nuggets took Michael Porter Jr. last year, if he never gets over his injuries, it isn't a huge deal since they already have a good, young roster, however if he does get over his injuries and comes on they'll have added a top 5 talent at a bargain price.

Pick 9 isn’t a bargain price though is it? I would hate to get Kemp as I see Setters and Kennedy being those big mids, I would be more than happy as a rule if we steered clear of any kid who’s done an ACL in the 1st round of the draft.
 

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