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List Mgmt. Carlton's 2019 Draft Thread

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TerryWallet said:
The Lokosius dream still kicking is it? All this(2 years) for Dylan Stephens? really?

I agree that will be the sell though. It writes itself. Don't think it holds weight though. Adelaide list management are an interesting watch for sure.
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All over the place like a mad woman’s shit I think the phrase is.
 
J-dog said:
I think that's how it will go.
Disappointing really, I was hoping for Robertson or Stephens.
Good thing we already had Serong and Kemp at the club!
Would prefer Serong, but happy for the club to trade back and pick up T Dow and another speculative wildcard.
Anyway just have to wait and see
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T Dow a better than even chance to get to 43.
 

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windows1 said:
I still think we would prefer to trade down. But I think Cats and GC first picks are too far away.

Increasingly I suspect a deal with Port would suit both well. Bid on Henry at 10 (it’s 10 now). Force Freo to use points (unless they’ve traded up to 9 which I think they may). We like him anyway so not a game. Then trade down with Port.

Cats may get quite desperate if they really want McAsey so that could all be quite fun.

Can’t wait!
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It's interesting because if we like Kemp and he's there at 9, there's a fair chance he's still there to 12 and maybe even 15 given the likely interests of the clubs between.
 
RoyalParade said:
I reckon I would be more interested on the following if they get to 43,

Cahill
Rowles
O'Neill
Philp
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Yeah I like Rowles and Philp as well but they may still be there at 57 well Rowles at least, Cahill I wouldn’t be disappointed with either assuming we don’t get Pickett earlier.
 
Yeah I am very interested in Philp. He is one who I think goes into this draft having been severely underrated throughout.

From the little I've seen I reckon he's a terrific prospect and I'd be all over him if he's still there at our second pick in the 40s. In fact I'd even be happy to trade up for him on draft night if he's still there when the 30s come around.

The only query I have is whether we can afford to take him if our first pick is an inside mid, so I guess we wait and see how that plays out. If we go with Ash or Stephens I'll be super keen.
 
murphster said:
T Dow a better than even chance to get to 43.
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Across 12 phantoms, Paddy Dow Jnr is projected/ranked in the 28-49 range with an average selection at 35....

RoyalParade said:
I reckon I would be more interested on the following if they get to 43,

Cahill
Rowles
O'Neill
Philp
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FYI, across 12 phantoms, those guys are ranked/projected

Cahill 37-57 (average 42)
Rowles 57-60+ (avg N/A, decent chance is available at our pick 57)
O'Neill 26-41 (avg 33)
Philp 18-50+ (avg 36)

At pick 43 I am warming to Brock Smith who is projected 30-60+ (avg 41)

Draft central: "A reliable defender who loves a niggle and is hard to beat one-on-one due to his positioning and strength overhead."

Lacks athleticism, but knows how to find the ball, beat an opponent and hates to lose. Can play on bigs, smalls. I think he could drift as recruiters are like thylacine60 and always ask if the player can run through the middle. Showed the ability to get 20+ touches at NAB league level, but I like the look of him down back as currently we don't really have any defenders < 195cm that actually defend bar Plowman.
 
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swuzzlebubble said:
It's interesting because if we like Kemp and he's there at 9, there's a fair chance he's still there to 12 and maybe even 15 given the likely interests of the clubs between.
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I reckon there's a chance to trade down from pick 9 to pick 10 with Fremantle, but if McAsey is off the board, Hawthorn could swoop on Kemp with pick 11.

If he's there at our selection, there probably isn't much wriggle room to trade down the order if we want to draft him.
 
ferrisb said:
Across 12 phantoms, Paddy Dow Jnr is projected/ranked in the 28-49 range with an average selection at 35....



FYI, across 12 phantoms, those guys are ranked/projected

Cahill 37-57 (average 42)
Rowles 57-60+ (avg N/A, decent chance is available at our pick 57)
O'Neill 26-41 (avg 33)
Philp 18-50+ (avg 36)

At pick 43 I am warming to Brock Smith who is projected 30-60+ (avg 41)

Draft central: "A reliable defender who loves a niggle and is hard to beat one-on-one due to his positioning and strength overhead."

Lacks athleticism, but knows how to find the ball, beat an opponent and hates to lose. Can play on bigs, smalls. I think he could drift as recruiters are like thylacine60 and always ask if the player can run through the middle. Showed the ability to get 20+ touches at NAB league level, but I like the look of him down back as currently we don't really have any defenders < 195cm that actually defend bar Plowman.
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Smith sounds like exactly the right type of player to be taking late in the draft. Specialised smaller defender with good skills and a competitive streak.
 

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ferrisb said:
Across 12 phantoms, Paddy Dow Jnr is projected/ranked in the 28-49 range with an average selection at 35....



FYI, across 12 phantoms, those guys are ranked/projected

Cahill 37-57 (average 42)
Rowles 57-60+ (avg N/A, decent chance is available at our pick 57)
O'Neill 26-41 (avg 33)
Philp 18-50+ (avg 36)

At pick 43 I am warming to Brock Smith who is projected 30-60+ (avg 41)

Draft central: "A reliable defender who loves a niggle and is hard to beat one-on-one due to his positioning and strength overhead."

Lacks athleticism, but knows how to find the ball, beat an opponent and hates to lose. Can play on bigs, smalls. I think he could drift as recruiters are like thylacine60 and always ask if the player can run through the middle. Showed the ability to get 20+ touches at NAB league level, but I like the look of him down back as currently we don't really have any defenders < 195cm that actually defend bar Plowman.
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Yeah I had a look at Brock yesterday would be the ideal lock down small defender for us, according to the report I read he hardly ever loses one on one contests which is exactly what we need, also at 188cm he is still a good size to compete in the air against the more upwardly mobile smalls.
 
Eiffel 65 said:
I reckon there's a chance to trade down from pick 9 to pick 10 with Fremantle, but if McAsey is off the board, Hawthorn could swoop on Kemp with pick 11.

If he's there at our selection, there probably isn't much wriggle room to trade down the order if we want to draft him.
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Unless Freo manage to trade down with someone I think there is a good chance we could do a deal with them for 10 & 22 which would be the best case scenario for us.
 
I don't know if it has been suggested elsewhere, or if it would even be allowed by the AFL to go through, but if we could swap our 2020 1st round pick for GCS 2020 #11 and also get back this year's pick #15 or 20 while also keeping pick #9 this year would be awesome. This would guarantee GCS have an extra first round pick next year (because if they keep #11 next year they may lose it if they improve beyond AFL's expectations) whilst also giving us an additional 1st round pick this year enabling us to have a shot at someone like Cooper Stephens, Kossie Pickett, Trent Rivers, etc. and, of course getting someone like Dylan Stephens, Deven Robertson, Kemp, or Serong among others at #9.
 
Sorry for the intrusion; I haven't looked through the entire thread, but have you guys thought about bidding on Henry at pick 9 and straight up offering Freo a trade of your 2020 first-round (pick ~6-8) for their pick 10? You sneaky your way into two top ten picks and if Freo want to save the points they take the trade, match the points for Henry and then pass your 2020 first-round on to say Geelong for their pick 14 or 17 to get back into the draft.
 

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murphster said:
Damn that would have been a good deal for us to do pick 30 would be handy.
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I really can't see the upside for North unless someone is willing to swap a first round pick for their 3 mid second rounders. Te odds that the future second rounder that North gave up is higher than 30 is incredibly remote IMO.

Hawks can now trade their future first though so watch this space.
 

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