List Mgmt. Carlton's 2019 Draft Thread

[ferrisb]

Happy Draftmas, bitches!

 

[Faz 2000]

As is tradition on draftmas, we’ll get all revved up about all the things on our wishlist but feel slightly underwhelmed when we realise we only get one of them. Then, naturally, we will get drunk and provoke tension with the rest of the family.

 

[Arr0w]

Why are we constantly getting linked to every small forward and general defender under the sun? Makes no sense.

This!

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Trade 9 to Gold Coast...

Kemp, Sharp, Dow/Honey, Bryan

let's go

GC (Dew) are apparently keen on Kemp.
They may even be thinking a chance he slides to 15.
But if he's gone (eg Geelong at 14) we may be a chance to trade back for 15

 

[ferrisb]

As is tradition on draftmas, we’ll get all revved up about all the things on our wishlist but feel slightly underwhelmed when we realise we only get one of them. Then, naturally, we will get drunk and provoke tension with the rest of the family.

Can you imagine SOS's xmas tree?

Underneath are three envelopes, with his boys' names on them. Each has a message inside.

Jack: You can have your standard present this year. OR you can have an extra present. But then you have to swap presents with Ben next year. You are expected to get a better present than Ben next year.

Ben: You can have a $100 present. OR you can have a $200 toy that is broken. There is no guarantee the toy can be fixed.

Tom: You can have four presents instead of one this year. BUT in exchange you need to subsidise Jack and Ben's pocket money next year.

 

[windows1]

FWIW the 20 metre sprint isn't a great measure of football speed. Football isn't played in straight lines. Running patterns and change of direction is more important.

Also, Jack Watts (2.82) was faster than Gary Rohan (2.95) and Patrick Dangerfield (2.92) https://www.dynamicfootyskills.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Testing-comparision-tables.pdf

I wouldn't worry about his combine results too much.

His combine results confirm what I’ve seen with my eyes. When you’ve seen him run down several times in U18 footy like I have you worry about it.

Happy for you to not be worried about it. I’ll remain worried about it.

 

[Coona Blues]

Happy Draftmas, bitches!

Vontae Mack

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

His combine results confirm what I’ve seen with my eyes. When you’ve seen him run down several times in U18 footy like I have you worry about it.

Happy for you to not be worried about it. I’ll remain worried about it.

Serong has more bust potential, I agree with you. AR would have a lot more work to do with Serong than Stephens that's for sure.

In saying that, I feel Serong's best position is a clearance player at the coal face.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

2019 Draft Central Phantom Draft

THE 2019 AFL National Draft is just a couple of days away and it is clear that trying to work out which clubs favour which players is incredibly difficult given the evenness of the draft crop outside the first round. Even inside the first round, preferences will play a huge role in where players...

afl.draftcentral.com.au

This phantom draft has us getting Serong, Cahill & Chirgwin.

Stephens, Cahill & Chirgwin....although their picks are different to their summary at the bottom of the page....they must have forgotten to update it from earlier

 

[gandaal]

Stephens, Cahill & Chirgwin....although their picks are different to their summary at the bottom of the page....they must have forgotten to update it from earlier

Plus Caleb is still giving us options even though he's picked by Freo

 

[HARKER]

Trade 9 to Gold Coast...
Kemp, Sharp, Dow/Honey, Bryan

let's go

If we were to trade down, take a pick and a future first.
If GC's #11 next year is indeed live, that and a #15 would be a great result should we still get a player we rate this year.

Holding two firsts next year would make for a great result, whilst getting a type that could play seniors as soon as next year.
It sounds like too much but be bold. GC want their toys now.

 

[Arr0w]

Kicking this one off nice and early. Some early contenders for the 1st round next year (rough order).

1 Noah Anderson
2 Brodie Kemp
3 Dylan Williams
4 Thomas Green
5 Hayden Young
6 Sam Flanders
7 Jeremy Sharp
8 Luke Jackson
9 Mitch O'Neill
10 Will Gould
11 Lachlan Potter
12 Caleb Serong
13 Matthew Rowell
14 Cooper Stephens
15 Cameron Taheny
16 Lachlan Ash
17 Emerson Jeka
18 Dylan Stephens

Haven't updated this all year. Not a phantom, just pure long term rankings

Anderson
Green
Ash
Rivers
Young
Kemp
Jackson
Robertson
Flanders
Rowell
D Stephens
Gould
De Koning
Henry
Serong
McAsey
Maginness
Taylor
C Stephens
Pickett
Bianco
O'Neill
Worrell
Bergman
Williams
Mead
Day
Taheny
Philp
Byrnes

Some late picks for us:

Still like Hanrahan from last year, Honey, Potter, Pina, Cahill

 

[HBF]

True HBF, the power brokers had a lot of pull back then, as too the coach

I thought it was the coach who got the final say on Lucas

 

[HBF]

Incorrect. Because I just cancelled it.

I assume you'll listen to the draft on the wireless?

 

[Matty411]

Happy Dyl Stephens Day, Bluebaggers!

 

[ferrisb]

My prediction:

Our first pick will be later than 9
Our 2nd pick will be before 43

(ignoring bidding adjustments)

 

[HBF]

Methinks McAsey if he's still there.

Might need to trade up to jump Hawks.

I think Adelaide take him at 6

 

[HBF]

Conversely, if they don't pick 9 goes up in trade value.

So true.
Going to be fascinating to see what unfolds tonight.

 

[Foucault1989]

My prediction:

Our first pick will be later than 9
Our 2nd pick will be before 43

(ignoring bidding adjustments)

Woah don't go too early. Pretty out there stuff

 

[Nori]

If we get Stephens or Young then I'd take that as a big win. If we end up with Serong I'd be slightly disappointed.

 

[HBF]

Happy Draftmas, bitches!

So looking forward to tonight, even though chances are i'll have to watch it later.

 

[HBF]

Vontae Mack

Love that movie!

 

[Lovers]

Depending on who we are targeting it is still very possible that 14 and 24 is better then 15 and 20. Ports 16 and 18 might actually be better for who we are targeting.

Surely we would be chasing something like

Out: Pick 9 + 43
In: GC 2019 Pick 20 + GC 2020 Pick 11
Or
Out: Pick 9 + 2020 2nd rd
In: GC 2019 Pick 15 + GC 2020 Pick 11

Then we can go shopping next year for senior players

 

[Stamos]

Surely we would be chasing something like

Out: Pick 9 + 43
In: GC 2019 Pick 20 + GC 2020 Pick 11
Or
Out: Pick 9 + 2020 2nd rd
In: GC 2019 Pick 15 + GC 2020 Pick 11

Then we can go shopping next year for senior players

If we trade, we’ll be getting better deals than that

 

[Foucault1989]

Surely we would be chasing something like

Out: Pick 9 + 43
In: GC 2019 Pick 20 + GC 2020 Pick 11
Or
Out: Pick 9 + 2020 2nd rd
In: GC 2019 Pick 15 + GC 2020 Pick 11

Then we can go shopping next year for senior players

The problem with this "we can go shopping next year" is that it can be quite unpredictable if there will be players we want available and if these players actually want to come to us. It increases the risk of a) lifting supporter expectations only for it to come crashing down which we've seen this year b) overpaying to get a player just cos we have the picks and c) having a few first round picks in a highly compromised draft. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. We might not be able to get a big or bigger fish. For the last two pre seasons I've read how next year will be the year...it simply might not happen or it might be via free agency