List Mgmt. Carlton's 2019 Draft Thread

[Coona Blues]

I agree totally I think Robertson would have been a much better option for GC than Flanders, for a team that needs to fix its culture and bring in leaders there decision to take a Flanders over a Robertson is bewildering.

I am of the belief that the go slow on Robertson was more about go home to Eagles than about any on field deficiency

 

[HARKER]

If Essendon didn't trade for Shiel they could have potentially had Caldwell & Kemp.

They now have a 27 year old midfielder that seemingly doesn't kick very well and just adds to the huge array of 180cm mids already on the books. All good.

 

[ferrisb]

Despite all the crap he gets on here, I really like Dylan Shiel.

But missing out on him was a sliding doors moment that

Arguably delivered us Setterfield
Contributed to us getting Martin
Ensured we ended up with Walsh
Kept picks to get Kemp & more

ShielDay 2018. The gift that keeps on giving.

 

[thylacine60]

If Essendon didn't trade for Shiel they could have potentially had Caldwell & Kemp.

They now have a 27 year old midfielder that seemingly doesn't kick very well and just adds to the huge array of 180cm mids already on the books. All good.

nice

 

[murphster]

If Essendon didn't trade for Shiel they could have potentially had Caldwell & Kemp.

They now have a 27 year old midfielder that seemingly doesn't kick very well and just adds to the huge array of 180cm mids already on the books. All good.

Yeah I thank our lucky stars we got Setterfield instead of Shiel a much better and cheaper option that has allowed us to still get the others as well. Win win and win

 

[TerryWallet]

If Essendon didn't trade for Shiel they could have potentially had Caldwell & Kemp.

They now have a 27 year old midfielder that seemingly doesn't kick very well and just adds to the huge array of 180cm mids already on the books. All good.

Dodoro would have looked at those 2 and said "Yewwww...big bodied mids....cooties"

In all seriousness though, when we're having our up's n down's....there's always * and Adrian to have a laugh at.

They no doubt think the same about us.

 

[ferrisb]

nice

You and Harks have gone to war with each other recently.

Nice to see you liking his post.

If there's one thing that unites us here on BF Carlton.....it's laughing at Essendon's misfortune....

 

[thylacine60]

can you imagine if rather than sitting on their hands, marking time, shredding their club through ineptness and cheating, they'd snagged a flag or two whilst we rebuilt? thankyou * for just being you while we sorted a bit of housekeeping out.........

 

[TerryWallet]

You and Harks have gone to war with each other recently.

Nice to see you liking his post.

If there's one thing that unites us here on BF Carlton.....it's laughing at Essendon's misfortune....

I'm still dirty on Donstuie(that great * hater) for not selecting Baguley with *'s 1st pick in the Phantom.

 

[tiger_tough]

Interesting article on the AFL website re: the draft. It's a good read, but in particular is of interest for us Carlton fans -









Full article here - https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-12...t-round-twists-turns-bluffs-and-the-big-calls

So Port actually initated the swap that saw you guys land Philp and he wasn't actually 'pinched' from us by SOS after all?

 

[HARKER]

You and Harks have gone to war with each other recently.
Nice to see you liking his post.
If there's one thing that unites us here on BF Carlton.....it's laughing at Essendon's misfortune....

It's not a war. I still have a cuddle for Thy,
Who wants to be angry all of the time....some of the time is fine, but all of the time. No thanks.

I didn't set out to laugh but to point out that they could have even taken Hately and Kemp and they would have had what they needed....but Dodoro just had to usurp that pesky SOS. Just had to, at any cost.



Happier days...Liddle smiling, Judd present.... love all around. We'll get there again.

 

[Jeremias]

So Port actually initated the swap that saw you guys land Philp and he wasn't actually 'pinched' from us by SOS after all?

If Richmond wanted him at that next pick, it doesn’t matter who initiated the pick swap.

You Richmond fans really are petty and awfully sensitive about all this.

It’s amazing that despite being the dominant team over the past three years you still seem obsessed by us.

 

[tiger_tough]

If Richmond wanted him at that next pick, it doesn’t matter who initiated the pick swap.

You Richmond fans really are petty and awfully sensitive about all this.

It’s amazing that despite being the dominant team over the past three years you still seem obsessed by us.

No obsession. We had blues fans come onto our board gloating that the messiah had pinched another one from under our nose. Now it seems as though Cal has even changed his tune about what actually happened.

 

[Jeremias]

No obsession. We had blues fans come onto our board gloating that the messiah had pinched another one from under our nose. Now it seems as though Cal has even changed his tune about what actually happened.

Again, Port initiating the deal doesn’t change anything.

It is still entirely possible we pinched him from you.

Not that it matters, only an idiot would think we’d compromise our draft just to get one up on the Tigers.

 

[Sector 7G]

If Richmond wanted him at that next pick, it doesn’t matter who initiated the pick swap.

You Richmond fans really are petty and awfully sensitive about all this.

It’s amazing that despite being the dominant team over the past three years you still seem obsessed by us.

It is funny how they are so positive that the recruiters got the player they wanted and weren't interested in the player taken the pick before. Cos recruiters always get interviewed on draft day and say get we really wanted Stoker but had to settle for RCD. No it is always we can't believe he was still there we had him in the top 10.

Ultimately I don't care if they wanted Stocker/Philp or not. It just matters that our recruiters rated and wanted them.

 

[Robertio]

No obsession. We had blues fans come onto our board gloating that the messiah had pinched another one from under our nose. Now it seems as though Cal has even changed his tune about what actually happened.

We believe Nth Melbourne and Sydney were looking at him with picks in the 20's.

 

[tiger_tough]

Again, Port initiating the deal doesn’t change anything.

It is still entirely possible we pinched him from you.

Not that it matters, only an idiot would think we’d compromise our draft just to get one up on the Tigers.

It's possible. But Twomey was the only one that reported it originally and now he has changed his tune. You're right, it doesn't matter but there was a fair old circle jerk in here when it was first touted.

 

[TerryWallet]

We believe Nth Melbourne and Sydney were looking at him with picks in the 20's.

We also believe Richmond was looking at him. Not saying Richmond would have taken him, just that there was a chance apparently.

We weren't looking at using any picks after our 43, so using 56 to get up from 22 to 20 was probably the best use we could make of 56. Regardless of who we or anyone else actually wanted or liked, it just eliminated 2 clubs from "maybe" getting the player we wanted.

 

[Jeremias]

It's possible. But Twomey was the only one that reported it originally and now he has changed his tune.

Has he?

Where has he said that the Tigers didn’t want him??

 

[tiger_tough]

Has he?

Where has he said that the Tigers didn’t want him??

Well given the detail he's gone into for every pick he's failed to mention it, yet he's has mentioned Swans and North as being interested in Philp as well as only Kemp and Robertson being linked to our selection outside of Dow. He also reported the wheeling and dealing was SOS's doing on the night to try get in front of our pick. So yes, he's reneged on that.

 

[Michael Jezz]

His phantom reflects where he thinks players will go. His power rankings reflect how he rates players (think he had Philp in the 50s) and therefore he views using pick 20 on him as a poor selection.

Carlton need burst from stoppage. There are Robertson types in every draft and they are more prevelant than Philps types. It is about building a total list and balancing between best available and needs. Knightmare is wrong. Philp was a better choice for Carlton

 

[Michael Jezz]

Despite all the crap he gets on here, I really like Dylan Shiel.

But missing out on him was a sliding doors moment that

Arguably delivered us Setterfield
Contributed to us getting Martin
Ensured we ended up with Walsh
Kept picks to get Kemp & more

ShielDay 2018. The gift that keeps on giving.

Profound post...and I bet knightmare rates essendon's draft/trade ahead of Carltons

 

[Sector 7G]

Profound post...and I bet knightmare rates essendon's draft/trade ahead of Carltons

We got a bad mark last year because we took Walsh over the 4 or 5 he had ahead in his power rankings. Plus he hated the Stocker trade.

 

[mochacinolatte]

Despite all the crap he gets on here, I really like Dylan Shiel.

But missing out on him was a sliding doors moment that

Arguably delivered us Setterfield
Contributed to us getting Martin
Ensured we ended up with Walsh
Kept picks to get Kemp & more

ShielDay 2018. The gift that keeps on giving.

Forgot to add *Essendon hasn't won a final

 

[ferrisb]

Forgot to add *Essendon hasn't won a final

#neverforget