List Mgmt. Carlton's 2020 Draft Thread

[gandaal]

We now have about 1000 points with those two picks. Hopefully someone comes knocking.

Maybe Port?

 

[Arr0w]

I’d like to see us take a pure small forward and a KPD, as well as leave a spot open for next year. We have promised to pick up Kennedy. We may also be looking at some ruck depth if TDK needs to play predominantly forward.

2 KPDs is overkill at this stage.

That's why a DFA tall swingman would be a clever selection

Then draft a KPD, a ruck/forward, a pure crumbing forward

Come the mid season draft, put Charlie on LTI list and take the best 19 year old that wasn't drafted

 

[Brackets]

Moving up 17 spots is a good move without there needing to be more to it than that. Waiting for the trade will just see other clubs take these opportunities instead.

Effectively turns the Saad trade into pick 8 and future 3rd round pick for Saad and pick 31. This is more along the lines of what most were originally expecting.

 

[gandaal]

Knightmare's AFL Draft Power Rankings: April

ESPN's AFL draft expert Christopher Doerre unveils his list of the 20 best prospects in his monthly power rankings.

www.espn.com.au

This was Knightmares top 20 power rankings in April of 2017. Makes for some interesting reading.
This really is a draft where no-one really knows who may yet be the best of the crop. The more astute recruiters will pluck gold from bronze. Maybe us?

That was assessment of a horrible draft, halfway through the season by a guy who's a better writer than an eye for talent.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

That's why a DFA tall swingman would be a clever selection

Then draft a KPD, a ruck/forward, a pure crumbing forward

Come the mid season draft, put Charlie on LTI list and take the best 19 year old that wasn't drafted

We only have four list spots as it stands, three if we take Kennedy which we will, and two if we decide to keep one open for pre season or mid year.

Best we not base our decisions around Charlie’s knee which could literally go anywhere. I think the club will be hesitant to place him on the LTI list anyway.

 

[HARKER]

That was assessment of a horrible draft, halfway through the season by a guy who's a better writer than an eye for talent.

OK, that may be the case but I've also seen elsewhere where early on, Naughton was rated in the lat 30's and with Cerra and Coffield a long way away also.

The point should be pretty clear - We really don't have a handle on this draft and some will come out looking like geniuses. ....US?

 

[BigBreakfast]

Strange pick swap, effectively similar points exchanging hands

Brings a greater opportunity to nab a slider or provide a little better reach into the draft. All about getting a bit more reach. Wouldn’t surprise me if we reach a little further too.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Points don't really apply to.us since we have no decent Academy prospects on the horizon so it's a good deal for us.

No, but it gives us a greater opportunity to trade with someone who does need them.

 

[smashbox gill]

It’s a strange swap and must be targeting someone. Wouldn’t it have been better to do the future 3rd with GC for 37 which the swans did after our swap.

Then we would have had 37, 38 and 48 rather than 31, 38 and 78

 

[BigBreakfast]

Would have been nice to get Suns 27 instead.

Bei interesting to see who gets that, unlikely to be us now.

Suns don’t need points for academy kids with the concessions they got last year.

 

[gandaal]

OK, that may be the case but I've also seen elsewhere where early on, Naughton was rated in the lat 30's and with Cerra and Coffield a long way away also.

The point should be pretty clear - We really don't have a handle on this draft and some will come out looking like geniuses. ....US?

Is there anything our recruiters have done recently that suggests we're capable of picking out the diamonds from the coal?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Doubt we'd be trading now if we wanted a specific player at 31, wouldn't surprise me to see us bundle 31 and 38 up to get back into the late first round/early second on draft night if there's a player we really like there.

At least we're now ahead of Freo who might be keen on Winder at 32

 

[Arr0w]

Where players are rated at the start of the year, changes dramatically end year, every year

This year is no different

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

It’s a strange swap and must be targeting someone. Wouldn’t it have been better to do the future 3rd with GC for 37 which the swans did after our swap.

Then we would have had 37, 38 and 48 rather than 31, 38 and 78

We will only take one or two kids at the most. 31+38 makes sense whether we use them as is or trade up.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Is there anything our recruiters have done recently that suggests we're capable of picking out the diamonds from the coal?

Willo, Gibbo, TDK at 30.

 

[smashbox gill]

We will only take one or two kids at the most. 31+38 makes sense whether we use them as is or trade up.

We have potentially 4 list spots. Can see us using 3 in the draft

 

[Arr0w]

Is there anything our recruiters have done recently that suggests we're capable of picking out the diamonds from the coal?

That's a good point, but generally you will see clubs with better lists taking greater risk reward types, rather than pure project or vanilla options

 

[murphster]

It’s a strange swap and must be targeting someone. Wouldn’t it have been better to do the future 3rd with GC for 37 which the swans did after our swap.

Then we would have had 37, 38 and 48 rather than 31, 38 and 78

We are only planning on using 2 picks so we got as high as we could, if we were planning on 3 we probably would have done that.

 

[Blue__Balls]

We may still bundle 31 & 38 and target a late teen pick

Thought the same. Think this is a preliminary trade to open up another opportunity elsewhere.

31 and 38 is equivalent to pick 16, so anything after that point would represent a points gain for a club who value points. GWS with Pick 20 would be the ideal partner.

Nik Cox is rated thereabouts, yeah? Cheeky insurance in case Charlie breakds down completely, otherwise an athletic KPD prospect.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

We have potentially 4 list spots. Can see us using 3 in the draft

One for Kennedy and I’m assuming we take a DFA and/or save a spot for an SSP selection next year.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I'd say we must be targeting someone, but if so is there any need to do this now rather than on draft night?

Probably suggests going for best available rather than someone in particular.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Doing the trade today gives us two weeks to make all the necessary arrangements in advance of draft night so we can pull the trigger if we have one of our targets sliding, a la Stocker a couple of years ago.

This definitely makes the draft coverage far more engaging for us Blues fans. "Who are we targeting? When will we strike?"

 

[murphster]

Is there anything our recruiters have done recently that suggests we're capable of picking out the diamonds from the coal?

The fact we don’t have any 1st round picks to worry about will certainly have them more focused on what’s available or likely to be at these picks, plus the fact we will probably be looking at specific types will also narrow the field, other than that I think Austin has a pretty good track record at Richmond but that’s assuming he was heavily involved with there later picks, and we all know what assuming leaves you with.

 

[gandaal]

Willo, Gibbo, TDK at 30.

I like them all.

Gibbons wasn't drafted. Willo and TDK are good prospects. TDK is probably the only one whose a potential star of the three.

Three possible best 22 players in 5 years from rd 2 or higher.

That's not good for a rebuilding team. Disastrous even.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Is there anything our recruiters have done recently that suggests we're capable of picking out the diamonds from the coal?

Austin was decent in the later rounds at the Dogs. Hope we had a few sets of eyes in WA and SA though.