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List Mgmt. Carlton's 2020 Draft Thread
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We’ll probably pick up McDonald who is perfectly fine depth and solves any short term concern. I’d also be bullish about turning him into our long term Jones replacement. See ball-spoil ball and leave the fancy stuff to the other guys.
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Madness......
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I generally don't do grey, so yes, I prefer definitive, but being challenged is a good thing, here and more so within any organization, as vigorous debates are health, rather than everyone being sheep to what they hear from so called professionals. Recruiters aren't surgeons, it's opinion based and at the strike rate is no where near perfection, in fact most struggle with a better that 50/50 ratio
I will try and make my thoughts clearer on my beliefs of best available.
Clubs don't rank players 1 before another, they generally do this in groups of 4-6 in each range, hence it's also possible to acquire best available while adding to needs, but you would never overreach for a specific type, hence what trading is for, as it's easier to ascertain worth and or acquire a type. Harker mentioned Beatson, but his words are difficult to believe given most years, those selections are made for him with bids on academy players. But lets take 2019 as an example, Beatson selected a number of different types at different stages of the draft
Firstly, they clearly believed they needed a KPD and 2 small forwards both of which they could have also attained in the draft, but they traded for what they believed to be better options, hence trade for needs
DFA Kaiden Brand
DFA Sam Gray
DFA Lewis Taylor
Then the draft. Stephens taken before Gould, hence best available. If Gould was gone by pick 26, then where would they have addressed that "Type/Need"? Would they have gone Sharp, Worrell, Jones, Comden, Rivers, etc, none of us here will know
5 Dylan Stephens
26 Will Gould
36 Elijah Taylor
39 Chad Warner
I don't dislike the players we selected, Carroll was clearly "best available" given he was a known slider. Did he also tick the "needs" box, probably, but he was a slider after all so we never looked like adding his "type", a kid that can play HB, HF, inside or outside. No issue with Durdin (I think small forwards were the least of our priorities), I think he is of solid character and a good footballer, but not what I would consider best in that type. Parks was also a solid selection, but being anywhere from 189-192 is not a need, perhaps he too was best available in the clubs eyes?
I too wanted a ruck/forward (Henry Smith at the Durdin selection) and a genuine KPD, but if the club believes these types were a reach, then I am happy we didn't overreach.
Nothing wrong with people debating situations, but passing off the same opinions/propaganda as facts, over and over again, is disappointing
That'll never work...
Agree with you , McDonald is a reasonable choice for the club, good auxiliary type player for defense, mature age, body and has played 81 AFL games for zero draft picks how can our recruiters ignore him.
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Think we should be drafting 5 yr olds no matter who their dad is....long term strategy ..........
Bishop goes for the Tigers
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Can someone explain to me why clubs get these bids on academy players constantly, yet some academies such as ours and Melbourne’s never have anyone?
Are we just unlucky? It’s disconcerting and seems downright unfair that other clubs like Sydney & Gold Coast seem to consistently get this academy talent that helps them continually refresh.
Are we just unlucky? It’s disconcerting and seems downright unfair that other clubs like Sydney & Gold Coast seem to consistently get this academy talent that helps them continually refresh.
No, I agree. Bull I do, start with the damn stables.
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But not Harry, Charlie and Levi
Was much better in the 80s when it stood for drink, drink and drink some more, won us 3 flags late 70s early 80s.
Development pfff
The zones were dished out around 2015/16. We were broke and focussed on internals. We didnt lobby for part of the NT and thought north of melbourne would be ok. I had the sense resourcing the area wasnt a high priority. We had more pressing issues in those times
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Ave 15 contested in the WAFL colts this year most of anyone.
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Because he's no good?
Except Collingwood who just keep drafting and trading for mids and medium forwards till the cows come home, with the “surely Cox puts it together this year” mindset. Idiots he’s American
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You've obviously never seen him play....
I'd take Marsh over McDonald in a heartbeat if it was a choice of the two.
Serious???..........Nah, surely not.
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