No Opposition Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

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I'm glad.. the quicker they can get the notices.. the quicker they can end this shit..

Either they fight and win.. or they take some BS backdated deal and be back ready in time for Round 1..

I think they are ready for the fight.. so bring it on.
There is no way if the players accept deals that they will play Round 1. 2015 could be a gap year.
 

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To the more informed posters, I've drifted in and out of this saga and I'd like to pose a question. Just how likely is it that this will be over before the start of next season?
 

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To the more informed posters, I've drifted in and out of this saga and I'd like to pose a question. Just how likely is it that this will be over before the start of next season?
If the player fight the charges.. unlikely
If the players take deals.. likely
 

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I think the plan is to grab the detail, if it is as expected - take it straight to the tribunal and bypass the waste of time 'process'. Could and should happen fairly quickly.
What if ASADA (unofficially) threaten to take their time getting the ADRVP to look at the cases, meaning that if the players fight, they won't get to the tribunal stage for ages ?

This would enable ASADA to put more pressure on the players to take deals.
 

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What if ASADA (unofficially) threaten to take their time getting the ADRVP to look at the cases, meaning that if the players fight, they won't get to the tribunal stage for ages ?

This would enable ASADA to put more pressure on the players to take deals.
I think what they mean is the players will place 'themselves' on the ROF - and ask straight out for a tribunal hearing.

Bypass replying to Show Cause/ADRVP etc, which really is a long-winded wank.
 

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Is he still weighing up whether to actually testify?
Putting two and two together - going by Chip's article the other day.

I know we have been pushing/working with the federal police to attack this from a criminal perspective - there are skeletons everywhere you look at this case and these guys have been involved in drug rackets, importing 'vitamins' then selling on the black market in the past.

Sometimes you stick your neck out, and it gets cut off. Im hoping we've got stuff up our sleeve we can hit these individuals with come cross-examination time.
 
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What if ASADA (unofficially) threaten to take their time getting the ADRVP to look at the cases, meaning that if the players fight, they won't get to the tribunal stage for ages ?

This would enable ASADA to put more pressure on the players to take deals.
no that won't happen. That's not how you pressure players to take deals.

The way you pressure players to take deals is you release the SCNs, simultaneously offer a deal, and say you have 48 hours, clock's ticking
 

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THE 34 current and former Essendon players facing doping charges will finally see the evidence against them, with reissued show-cause notices expected to arrive on Friday.
- Herald Sun
I thought they were to be issued Monday (according to news last week)?

Seems like the initial news reporting from earlier this year - pick a day 3-4 days ahead, report on that. Rinse and repeat.
 
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I found this interesting from the HUN. I thought they'd have to do separate cases. Man it would be nice to win this one if they could:

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If the evidence against the players is similar, they would likely request a single “representative” case be heard, with the league, ASADA and the players to all have lawyers on hand.
 

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I found this interesting from the HUN. I thought they'd have to do separate cases. Man it would be nice to win this one if they could:

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If the evidence against the players is similar, they would likely request a single “representative” case be heard, with the league, ASADA and the players to all have lawyers on hand.
Yeah, saw that too makes things interesting.

I thought seperate cases too. Though will ASADA try and make teh evidence look different to try and string it out?
 

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I found this interesting from the HUN. I thought they'd have to do separate cases. Man it would be nice to win this one if they could:

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If the evidence against the players is similar, they would likely request a single “representative” case be heard, with the league, ASADA and the players to all have lawyers on hand.
My question is though, can the players discuss the similarities in their cases? I realise they're represented by the AFLPA (except $tewy and Prismall) but wonder whether they are able to assess them as one or not, given their allegedly tailored notices.
 

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There must be some drugs in sport meeting going on - few interesting tweets -
edit it's the Senate Committee hearing into the proposed ASADA legislation

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2h2 hours ago
Paul Horvath: an anti-doping CAS hearing will cost an athlete around $4000 in tribunal costs and $15K-$100K in legal costs. Per matter. Yep

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2h2 hours ago
In regard to Australian CAS costs being so high, in the UK/NZ government fund a sports dispute hearing panel which ensures low cost hearings

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2h2 hours ago
Richard Redman on tribunal delays: Pointing out that ASADA takes months to notify athletes of matters that abroad takes days Needlessly slow

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2h2 hours ago
Paul Horvath: Why dont [gov] amend the crime act and put pressure on the dealers versus the athletes?

Richard Ings ‏@ringsau 2h2 hours ago
Schwab: "when WADA says they have consensus on the WADA Code, it does not include the worlds player associations"

Essendon FC ‏@EssendonFC 2h2 hours ago
Cooney: "The opportunity to play at a big club and in big games was a major attraction."

Chip Le Grand ‏@Melbchief 2h2 hours ago
David Garnsey: athletes and public no longer have confidence in ASADA.

Daniel Cherny ‏@DanielCherny 12m12 minutes ago
Ian Prendergast compared the 34 Essendon players to construction workers who are victims of asbestos. #senate #asada #wada
 
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