No Opposition Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

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The view of Hargraves and others in the players' defence was that the CAS set the bar for comfortable satisfaction too low.

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One point Hargraves has noted is that the players were treated by the CAS as a collective and the differences in circumstances and individual evidence were not taken into account in either the verdict or the sentence.

Another objection and even a point that could be challenged was that the CAS did not take into account the delay caused by Essendon's Federal Court action when setting out the sentences. As the players' lawyers pointed out, the players were not part of the action taken by Essendon and James Hird against ASADA in the Court.

The players' lawyers also noted that there was dissent among the three-man panel, with one judge not comfortably satisfied that some players – the number is not specified but has to be at least two – took thymosin beta-4, although the dissenting panellist was satisfied that players did take TB4.

Legal sources with a knowledge of the case speculated that the dissent would likely have been based on the timing of injections in 2012.
The avenues that are being investigated include the Swiss Federal Court, the Supreme Courts of the Victoria and NSW and the Federal Court of Australia.
Bugger it, let's go Federal ...then High
 

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Haven't you read the AFL memo?

Melbourne, Gold Coast and Geelongs links were looked at and everything was hunky dory ok, so no need to ask those pesky questions, if you want to keep your accreditation.
Bock got off because "you can't trust it was what it said it was" - incidentally the same reasoning we copped $2m, draft picks, finals and half our ******* side.
 

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Another objection and even a point that could be challenged was that the CAS did not take into account the delay caused by Essendon's Federal Court action when setting out the sentences. As the players' lawyers pointed out, the players were not part of the action taken by Essendon and James Hird against ASADA in the Court.
Not only did they not take that into account, but they actively used it against them when it came to backdating the penalties, the players council argued for a reduced penalty due to the drawn out nature of this whole thing but CAS argued that they held it up with 'their' federal court action...
 

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Not only did they not take that into account, but they actively used it against them when it came to backdating the penalties, the players council argued for a reduced penalty due to the drawn out nature of this whole thing but CAS argued that they held it up with 'their' federal court action...
Which again leaves me wondering; if they got something so simple incorrect, what else have they misinterpreted/chosen to not understand/flat out made up?
 

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... and what of Dean Robinson. He was part of the program and specifically the consent forms which listed Thymosin.

He knew, approved and encouraged the Thymosin stuff. He admitted to injecting himself with CJC. He gave Bock the same drug.

Is this world gone mad and he's walked away with a shit load of cash.
What of Paul Hamilton? Didn't Dank and Robinson report to him? I imagine Dean Wallis (he of the botched spreadsheets) did as well and he was part of the club executive (Hird wasn't)...but barely a word about him and not a word from him for three years.
 
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Which again leaves me wondering; if they got something so simple incorrect, what else have they misinterpreted/chosen to not understand/flat out made up?
The curious one is that CAS acknowledged there were 27 versions of Thymosin but elected to only gloss over why they believed TB4 was used on the players. This was no strand of evidence adding to the rope, just a piece of used dental floss.
 

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Which again leaves me wondering; if they got something so simple incorrect, what else have they misinterpreted/chosen to not understand/flat out made up?
Another thing mike- in the interview with Nick McKenzie in April 2013, the prevailing view is that Dank confessed to using TB4 because he wasn't aware it was banned. It's odd then that there is no reference to TB4 in any of the email and text exchanges between Dank and the coaches and players. He always refers to it as Thymosin, why not TB4, given he believes it legal.
 

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... and what of Dean Robinson. He was part of the program and specifically the consent forms which listed Thymosin.

He knew, approved and encouraged the Thymosin stuff. He admitted to injecting himself with CJC. He gave Bock the same drug.

Is this world gone mad and he's walked away with a shit load of cash.
Why and how did Robinson get off so lightly? In fact he walked away with more than a million dollars and hardly analysed or criticised in the media.

My very cynical view....Robinson played a big role at Geelong when they won their flags. He worked with dank at Geelong. You attack and analyse Robinson to closely and who knows what you find out and come up with.

It is much better to go after the team that had no success, than it is to go after the team that win 3 flags.

Very cynical I know, but possible.
 
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