No Opposition Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

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Yeah, i'm not too fused about it. Depends on how you look at it, maybe a good chance to be part of the community? Maybe a good chance to brush shoulders with some club people? Maybe another shit eating exercise?
 

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Useless fact: Glenbervie station is closer to windy hill than Essendon station.
I have always said this too, and been scoffed at often. It's especially the case if you're using the northern entrance near Brewster Street, which on VFL match days is the only entrance open. Has the added bonus of not having a big annoying roundabout junction in the way too.
 

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I have always said this too, and been scoffed at often. It's especially the case if you're using the northern entrance near Brewster Street, which on VFL match days is the only entrance open. Has the added bonus of not having a big annoying roundabout junction in the way too.
The only benefit to Essendon station is that it's one stop closer to the city (so it's borderline which one gets you there first) and also has shops on the way to grab food/drinks, but Glenbervie is definitely closer.
 

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That is revisionist nonsense. By revisionist, I mean that you are re-evaluating Hird in the light of the guilty verdict handed down to the players.
I said a very long time ago that the final outcome would be determined by legalisms (definition of burden of proof, willingness of CAS to make assumptions etc etc), and that how Hird acted, and how the players acted, should not be judged by what is the final outcome.
And it is true.
Hird did no wrong. The players did no wrong. The fact that CAS found the players guilty says a lot about the WADA code, and what WADA and CAS combined found necessary and desirable to guard against future potential drug use by a sporting team. It does NOT, in my estimation, give me cause to revise what I believe the players, and Hird, are, and that is innocent victims of a dubious, and possibly deceitful program run by Robinson and Dank.

My respect for Hird remains. I actually respect him more than I did as a player as a result of how he has conducted himself over the last 3 years.
Hird and the club are taking a break from each other because of the answer to the question that Hird asked prior to his relinquishing the coaching position, which was "Do you think that the club will ever be treated fairly while I am coach?". The answer was "No".
The general public will try to revise this to Hird leaving in disgrace. He didn't. He left because the public, the press, and the AFL made it impossible for the club to get "clean air" as long as he was still there, such was their need to blame him.

So don't include me when you say many have lost respect for him over what has happened. I think I have a very good understanding of what has happened.
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Yep,
Medical condition, has been taking it since 2006, the medicine goes by another name and that is the one on the banned list effective 1st Jan.

Just like that, reputation is tarnished.
On that, I assume she has been listing it on all her drug test forms for years. A little 'heads-up' might have been nice.
 

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On that, I assume she has been listing it on all her drug test forms for years. A little 'heads-up' might have been nice.
Hell they could have even listed it by all its names that it goes by. That would be you know, the professional thing to do.

I'm kind of hoping that because its for a medical condition and there is a long history of taking it that there will be a lenient/non existent penalty.


I certainly am so happy that this rampant Drug cheater is now getting punished. /s
 

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Why would she get a tarnished reputation now, when she has been taking it for medical purposes for so long?
because she is going to be hit with a doping ban which could potentially end her career.

She is now in the eyes of all a "drug cheat".

Just like our players are now drug cheats despite any extenuating circumstances (being doped without their knowledge)
 
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because she is going to be hit with a doping ban which could potentially end her career.

She is now in the eyes of all a "drug cheat".

Just like our players are now drug cheats despite any extenuating circumstances (being doped without their knowledge)
Not mine. Some people will say that, obviously. But you'd think most people will apply common sense here.
 

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This shows just how stupid the whole WADA code is, Maria just like the Essendon players have been caught out by paranoia caused by the East Germans and Chinese, clearly WADA are all over the shop, why was this drug acceptable before January 1 but not after, yet 12 months earlier Serena Williams called for a coffee to wake her self up, clearly the WADA body needs to be cleaned up.

Maria will sadly be called a cheat just like muppets call the Essendon 34 cheats, the whole international sports drug code is a joke.
 
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Not mine. Some people will say that, obviously. But you'd think most people will apply common sense here.
We have been conditions by the crap at Essendon but a few years ago the Australian response would have been to dismiss Maria as a cheat.
 

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Why would she get a tarnished reputation now, when she has been taking it for medical purposes for so long?
Muppets are not known for thinking too deeply, basically Australians have a long tradition of being zero tolerance on drugs in sport.
 
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