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But allegedly the AFL did full audits into all clubs in the first half of 2013, and that's where you get these new protocols. I am unsure how detailed the audits were, seeing that during this time MFC was caught dealing with Dank.

I am more interested in whether the club has repaired its relationship with the AFLPA.
 

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But allegedly the AFL did full audits into all clubs in the first half of 2013, and that's where you get these new protocols. I am unsure how detailed the audits were, seeing that during this time MFC was caught dealing with Dank.

I am more interested in whether the club has repaired its relationship with the AFLPA.

The audits:

Vlad: Hmmm I better call the clubs and give them the heads up the ACC is sniffing around

Vlad to all other 17 clubs: Hey, are you involved in any drugs or supplements that we should know about?

Other 17 clubs: Nope, nup, nothing like that, these are the supplements you are looking for, move along.

Vlad to Evans: Hey, are you involved in any drugs or supplements that we should know about?

Evans: I don't know, I'll have to check.

Evans to Vlad: Oh heck, I don't know what has been happening, perhaps we should find out?

Vlad to Evans: Yes, you should self report, that will look better...


Vlad to media: I have conducted an thorough audit of our all clubs, only EFC has any knowledge or supplements or drugs.
 

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Yeah, so found this article interesting. Seems we weren't the only club with poor Governance, just the only club with Dank.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-15/afl-no-needles-policy?utm_medium=RSS
Based on this even the foamers on the HTB could now see that the 17 club presidents backing the AFL would've been based on an amnesty arrangement where EFC is kicked hard while it is down and all indiscretions of the other clubs around supplement use are thrown out the door, likely under the proviso that they are all sure to pull themselves into line.
 
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Not sure if this has been posted/ discussed at all but this infuriated me

"The supplements survey also found that 12 clubs conducted programs with medium or high levels of supplement use and lacked "a single point of accountability".
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-15/afl-no-needles-policy

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't we cop all these pineapples because we had no accountability?? not that we have even been found guilty of anything...

Guess i'll stand by to stand by on the fines and draft picks these other 11 clubs are sure to lose
 

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If more comes from this, surely it can't be swept under the rug.

They set a precedent in totally unprecedented waters. If it does get ignored, I would hope there is a massive backlash from the EFC.
 

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Bring down the whole ******* league kents! Let's do this!

It is the only way to ensure the long term survival of this code.

Also...back up the truck rines....we have a player about to be suspended for 2 years? Or was that a piss take?
 

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If more comes from this, surely it can't be swept under the rug.

They set a precedent in totally unprecedented waters. If it does get ignored, I would hope there is a massive backlash from the EFC.
Has anything come from Melbourne's link to Dank, and their players using AOD? The AFL are being very quiet with this hoping it all goes away.

Surely Melbourne's doctor deserves Caro's support, just as she supported Robinson. He was sacked pretty quickly, but he can't be the only person responsible. One important lesson we've learned from all this is that if you're unaware what your employees are doing then it's bad governance, and people higher up have to pay the price.
 

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We were punished because our PR was wiped off the planet by the AFL for about 5 months until Little took over. We were never going to win with Evans' "shutup and don't respond" PR strategy, all it did was allow the AFL to leak to the media and to sway public opinion. By the time we responded to these leaks, we were guilty to the public.
 

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Bring down the whole ******* league kents! Let's do this!

It is the only way to ensure the long term survival of this code
The other clubs have seen how the AFL play dirty, they won't gang up against the head office. Vlad would threaten to air the dirty laundry of any other club that tried to go up against him.
 

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We were punished because our PR was wiped off the planet by the AFL for about 5 months until Little took over. We were never going to win with Evans' "shutup and don't respond" PR strategy, all it did was allow the AFL to leak to the media and to sway public opinion. By the time we responded to these leaks, we were guilty to the public.
Everything we did was bad, from self reporting and inviting ASADA in, to the monumental mistake that was the Ziggy report. We got played by the AFL every step of the way, and when we finally realised they were going to stab us in the back it was too late.

We should have sat back like all the other clubs and said "everything's good, nothing to see here".
 

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[Maybe ="kfc1, post: 30630060, member: 106637"]Bring down the whole ******* league kents! Let's do this!

It is the only way to ensure the long term survival of this code.

Also...back up the truck rines....we have a player about to be suspended for 2 years? Or was that a piss take?[/quote]

Maybe referring to Ahmed Saad?
 

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11 other AFL clubs reported to have done supplement programs and various degrees of poor corporate governance.

Hope we have not paid the fine and don't until we have too, maybe we should threaten not to pay until the other 11 clubs are named.

The challenge for Wilson and Barrett & co is if the AFL don't name those clubs that they go and identify the clubs, surely they have enough favors due from within AFL House.

If they remain silent we can presume that they have all along known about the 11.

In the case of Wilson, if she is silent does that mean Richmond is involved.

Now this is the problem if she sits on her info having gone so hard at Essendon and we all know she is a massive Tiges fan this taints her footy club.

Not sure who Barrett barracks for but comes across as a Carlton man as many people at AFL House are.

This is what happens when an organisation tries to micro-manage a problem that should have been out in the open in Feb/March and dealt with by June/July.
 

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11 other AFL clubs reported to have done supplement programs and various degrees of poor corporate governance.

Hope we have not paid the fine and don't until we have too, maybe we should threaten not to pay until the other 11 clubs are named.

The challenge for Wilson and Barrett & co is if the AFL don't name those clubs that they go and identify the clubs, surely they have enough favors due from within AFL House.

If they remain silent we can presume that they have all along known about the 11.

In the case of Wilson, if she is silent does that mean Richmond is involved.

Now this is the problem if she sits on her info having gone so hard at Essendon and we all know she is a massive Tiges fan this taints her footy club.

Not sure who Barrett barracks for but comes across as a Carlton man as many people at AFL House are.

This is what happens when an organisation tries to micro-manage a problem that should have been out in the open in Feb/March and dealt with by June/July.
Itth jutht not a good look!!!!!!
 

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Head says I hope there isn't too much shit going on elsewhere for the good of the game, etc. etc.

Heart says if there is anything going on elsewhere, I hope the fu*kers involved suffer like we did. **** them.
It's got nothing to do with anyone cheating. it has to do wit bad governance and bringing the game into disrepute.

So Essendon are assured of finals next year as 11 clubs will be made to sit out. And our first round pick next year will be pick 7 as 11 clubs will lose their first and second rounders. And 11 clubs will lose their coaches for a year.
 
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We all know (or should have known) that other clubs would have been in the same boat as us, unfortunately we were just the scape goat, which blows. It blows big time.

The AFL will try cover this up as much as possible no doubt.
 

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With 11 clubs sitting out the first and second round of the draft next year, and having only and end of first round pick the following year, we may feel a little like GCS and GWS felt.

We get to have some concessions. Could be making up for the fact that no other guilty club will feel the heat in the same way we did.

Wishful thinking that will never happen I know, but I would love to see some sort of fair outcome.
 
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