Casey, time for you to go too.

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Originally posted by 1980

But for me, Richmond's darkest ever days was when Neville was president. I remember those days well. I would go to the games never expecting to win, but hoping at least to see Andy Goodwin thump someone.

And for the record, you ever get a chance to speak with Lambert (who you've quoted below), he'll tell you the administration kicked him out of the club after he raised the players concerns with what the administration was doing. You ever speak to Campbell about why he wanted to leave and go to North, he'll tell you he was pi$$ed off the administration ran Northey out of the club.

Anyway, 2 weeks ago you were supporting Frawley. Now you're as much a feral slagging Frawley as the rest of us. Thats good enough for me.
about your comment about our darkest hour.you simply have no idea do you?perhaps you should look back a bit further and ask yourself why we just about went under?im not for one minute disputing the fact that greame richmond was one of our best administrators we have ever had however he was responsable for the huge debt that was created thru payback for losing cloke and raines to the pies.yes thats right the great man GR sent us broke.
neville crowe like i said previously had no choice but to play kids.we had no money.tell me what president could do any better?
i dont know about the lambert situation so i wont comment.
campbell was leaving because of the northey thing?your clutching at straws considering his walkout happened 2 seasons later.

where have i slagged off at spud?i made comments to the effect i have had enough about the way we play etc and yes he will be gone at the end of the year but i will always respect the bloke for taking on a job that no one else wanted.

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I'm just a little wary of the board problems we are currently having and what is being done to solve them. Can someone explain to me what A Mithan's credentials are to sit on the board. Has he run a successful company? Has he worked in a corporate environment? Has he worked in a previous administration role within a sporting environment?

He's a journalist who supports the Tigers!

Maybe Casey knows what he is doing. I just wish he (or someone / anyone) can explain to the members what is occuring at board level and what they are doing to address these issues. Was an explanation given as to Mithan's credentials?
 

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Originally posted by nineteen eighty
I'm just a little wary of the board problems we are currently having and what is being done to solve them. Can someone explain to me what A Mithan's credentials are to sit on the board. Has he run a successful company? Has he worked in a corporate environment? Has he worked in a previous administration role within a sporting environment?

He's a journalist who supports the Tigers!

Maybe Casey knows what he is doing. I just wish he (or someone / anyone) can explain to the members what is occuring at board level and what they are doing to address these issues. Was an explanation given as to Mithan's credentials?
Was a really rushed appointment wasnt it?? He only agreed to join 15 mins b4 the presidents dinner FFS. Just grab people off the street and make them board members clinton. You tool.
 
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Originally posted by itsintheblood
Was a really rushed appointment wasnt it?? He only agreed to join 15 mins b4 the presidents dinner FFS. Just grab people off the street and make them board members clinton. You tool.
The word around the traps was that Clinton had a Crazy person lined up as a board member and was all set to announce it at the lunch (remember he said this on the Footy show days earlier) but then this Crazy person pulled out at the last minute leaving Clinton with no-one. So he grabbs Mitho and asks him if wants the gig. That is why Mitho was at the Presidents lunch, where he is announced as a borad member, wearing a t-shirt, no tie and a borrowed jacket.
Great way to run a business - think I'll ask Clinton for a job if I bump into him at one of his retirement homes.
 

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Geez if that story is true Captain, I'm really not going to hold out for much of a revival of our club. Having Mithen as a board member installs absolutely NO CONFIDENCE in me about the direction we are heading in off-field. Hearing stories like yours absolutely scares the bejesus out of me.

Please tell me Clinton it's not true!
 

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Originally posted by Captain Blood
The word around the traps was that Clinton had a Crazy person lined up as a board member and was all set to announce it at the lunch (remember he said this on the Footy show days earlier) but then this Crazy person pulled out at the last minute leaving Clinton with no-one. So he grabbs Mitho and asks him if wants the gig. That is why Mitho was at the Presidents lunch, where he is announced as a borad member, wearing a t-shirt, no tie and a borrowed jacket.
Great way to run a business - think I'll ask Clinton for a job if I bump into him at one of his retirement homes.
Don't tell me the Crazy Johns Mascot knocked back the board invitation???
 

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I give up. You're absoultely right. Bring back Neville Crowe as president and KB as coach because they did such a great job. Then lets march over to Graeme Richmond's grave and **** on it because he's responsible for everything thats gone wrong since Cloke went to Collingwood. Everyone subsequently to Graeme Richmond has done a great job under the circumstances even though we've played in finals twice, and under Graeme we won premierships.

No wonder you cant remember back to Neville Crowe's dark days. You cant even remember being Frawley's No.1 fan 2 weeks ago.

You are a goose.
 

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I don't recall anyone saying they wanted Neville back - just said he was a great president who did a fantastic job of keeping this side in existence.
 

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Froars, if you bother to read TOO's first post (3rd on this thread) it says bring back Neville Crowe.

If there's one thing that is worse than a Richmond supporter wanting to sack the coach, the president, the players, or anything that stands on two feet at punt road, its a Richmond supporter that thinks that bringing back ppl that have had as much success as the current administration will solve anything.

And anyone who says Neville Crowe cleaned up Graeme Richmond's mess has a real hide. Collingwood were in as much financial trouble as were after the player poaching. We just left it much later than they did to start cleaning up the mess. And they won a premiership in 1990. And Crowey was president for 3 years by then.
 

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Originally posted by 1980
I give up. You're absoultely right. Bring back Neville Crowe as president and KB as coach because they did such a great job. Then lets march over to Graeme Richmond's grave and **** on it because he's responsible for everything thats gone wrong since Cloke went to Collingwood. Everyone subsequently to Graeme Richmond has done a great job under the circumstances even though we've played in finals twice, and under Graeme we won premierships.

No wonder you cant remember back to Neville Crowe's dark days. You cant even remember being Frawley's No.1 fan 2 weeks ago.

You are a goose.
i suggest you take ya head out your ass for just one minute.what part of any posts regarding crowe cant you get in that thick skull of yours?
WE WERE IN DEBT,WE HAD NO MONEY,WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO PLAY VERY RAW KIDS AND 2ND RATE REJECTS.
and yes GR the great man is responsable for those years that sent us to the wall along with his other co-horts.

as for the frawley comment your an absolute ****er.
 

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[B He got us into a great financial position, started the Jack Dyer Foundation which was to go the rebuilding of the club's facilities - and which people gave to in good faith that that was what it was for - and now that money has gone elsewhere.

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Froars,

What do you mean by this? The money going elsewhere?

Are you refering to Mike Sheahan's comment in that article on Saturday about the club including the revenues of the JDF in the clubs accounts?

Sorry I meant to ask this yesterday but I was in a meeting (non crisis meeting :D )
 

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GR- VP 1979-83
Neville Crowe Pres 1987-1993

Gap of 4 years between them. Thats 4 years to fix the finances before Crowe even took over. Did they? What were they doing for 4 years? This is the exact same period it took the Magpies 3 years to fix their own finances.

The save our skins campaign was in 1990. Thats 7 years after GR resigned as VP.

You're telling me that it took between 1983 and 1993 (10 years) to fix GR's mess of poaching 2 players from the Magpies? What was Neville Crowe doing for 3 years before he decided we needed the SOS campaign to save the club? Spending more money?

Turning around a footy club takes 3 years, not 10. Neville was there for 6 and if you cant take a club forward over a 6 year period, when Collingwood did it in 3, and won a premiership, you $uck as a president.

And he $ucked as a president. And he's the reason KB wont come back to the club. I wouldnt be surprised if you consider Crowe appointing Allan Jeans as coach another masterstroke.

Most of us look back fondly to the days we had a premiership team. You look back fondly to a president that took 6 years to fix something created 4 years before him, and he never actually fixed anything. Because we still havent won a premiership since your savior's time as president of the club. And you have the gall to slag of GR. Disgraceful!
 

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good try but no cigar!since the pies poached both raines and cloke and thats all from us we went on a revenge attack on the pies recruiting players lile mcCormack[on one leg],stewart,lovett,annear and the list goes on and on and what we payed them made the contracts of daffy etc look like chicken feed.GR may have stepped down "officially" but dont you think for one minute he still didnt pull the strings.
we were bleeding and continued to bleed until we could bleed no more.like i said in another post which you have selectivley put in your own words like many other times i admired GR for what he did for the club but also he has to take some of the blame for what ended up our darkest hour.where is the slag?
neville crowe went beyond the duties of a president to keep this club afloat.
btw another of your selective spins i said i would have crowe back because he has his heart in the right place in regards to the preception about our current president and his past ties with essendon.
 

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Graeme was doing what Graeme has always been doing since the 1960s. Bringing the best available players to the club. Unfortunately the Pie rejects were not on par as his previous exploits such as Bourke, Clay and Richardson. When he overpaid the bombers to get Sproule, he even put in some of his own money to get him, not just the clubs. He didnt break the bank in the 60 and 70s.

There is a lot more to why the club went so far under financially in the 80s, and the magpie rejects is only part of the story. And anyway, Raines and Cloke were the highest paid in the league. But the clubs spin (and yours) has always been that it was overpaying average players. Well we're overpaying average players today and you cant blame GR for that. If you can blame GR for creating the financial problem, I can blame everyone else for taking so long to fix it, and not fixing the footy side of things until this very day.

So Neville Crowe would be a better present than Casey. Good. Agreed. Anyone could be a better president than Casey. Even maybe you
 

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fianally some common ground we have reached.
i agree:
*GR and the 60,s and 70,s
*over paying average players still goes on today
*agreed all presidents should be accountable for where we are today[ALAN BOND:eek:] .altho i still maintain both crowe and daphne did the right thing by the club and get us back in the right direction with off the feild matters.
bandwagon supporters should also be held accountable despite where we are at on the ladder.nothiong frustrates me more than knowing that we have a huge supporter base its dictated by how we are travelling.however in the same breath im proud of every memeber who continues to stick by the club.there wouldnt be many sides in victoria who would be around today if they had to put up with what we have in the past 20yrs.

and finally yes i believe casey isnt the right man to be our president.like i said in the 1st page perhaps someone like john robot[ex storm].
 

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This is no fun. I cant find anything to disagree with you. I may have to bring up again that Frawley was a dodgy fullback that couldnt kick.

By the way, your comment about bandwagon supporters is the smartest thing you've put up on this board, and you're nearly at 3000 posts. Bandwagon supporters dropping off when the club was doing badly hit the club hard financially. And yes Crowe did a great job bringing a lot of them back thru SOS and making sure they understood you cant be a part time Richmond supporter.

But maybe GR already knew this. Maybe he was desperate buying magpie rejects because he knew if we dropped out of the finals, the supporters wouldnt turn up to any more games. Chicken and egg?

Or maybe he just went nuts because he couldnt stand the fact the scum took our best players. I know I did when I couldnt wear Geoff Raines No.4 on my back anymore.
 

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Originally posted by WilliamPowell
Froars,

What do you mean by this? The money going elsewhere?

Are you refering to Mike Sheahan's comment in that article on Saturday about the club including the revenues of the JDF in the clubs accounts?

Sorry I meant to ask this yesterday but I was in a meeting (non crisis meeting :D )
Sorry to answer this for someone else, but IIRC then the money in the JDF was always supposed to be separate to money that RFC had in the bank (presumably to avoid donations from the city of Melbourne, etc being used to fund the club rather than the capital works program. There were also tax implications as the JDF donations are tax deductible).

I think that Casey's administration added the money in the JDF to our accounts to make it look like we made a profit a few years ago, or at least to make a loss not as big. Misleading if this was the case.

Richmond never lost any money under Daphne's administration. Casey comes from an Essendon family (I know his brother, Glenn) and I do not like the idea of a Bomber running our club.
 
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Originally posted by tigerdan
Sorry to answer this for someone else, but IIRC then the money in the JDF was always supposed to be separate to money that RFC had in the bank (presumably to avoid donations from the city of Melbourne, etc being used to fund the club rather than the capital works program. There were also tax implications as the JDF donations are tax deductible).

I think that Casey's administration added the money in the JDF to our accounts to make it look like we made a profit a few years ago, or at least to make a loss not as big. Misleading if this was the case.

Tigerdan,

No need to apologise - I thought that was what Froars may have been saying.

I actually asked 2 friends of mine (one an accountant and the other a solicitor) about this situation because I get a bit peeved by the media's implying that the money is being used incorrectly -especially when I have made a number of donations myself to the JDF. I had my own view on the matter and they have since confirmed it for me.

The funds received by JDF have to be included as part of the revenues of the Club every year - this is a requirement under the Corporations law (they even quoted me the section number and offerd to forward me a copy - god bless 'em) because the Club controls those funds and the accounts must represent all things the Club controls.

The money is kept in the a seperate bank account and can only be used for the projects as specified by the JDF and agreed to by the Australian Sports Foundation.

Granted it improves the overall position of the Club but I don't think they are being misleading when they are only following the appropriate law.
 
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