Beauty & Style Cat calling?

[Kynge of Begrem]

Happy to admit you have never said that. But you've quoted my posted and claimed I'm wrong without being specific. You really are a massive knob trying to start a fight for the sake of starting a fight.

Where did I state you were wrong? Again, direct quote please.

 

[The Coup]

I see. So you think men don't constantly misread signals? For whatever reason, they just do. Always have, always will. The only ones who don't are Brad Pitt types because pretty much all women will go for them.

I'm unsure why you're taking this line of argument? I'm also unsure why you haven't called me out for some of the specific things I have said, but rather had a crack at another poster. Probably because you know you'll get owned.

You haven't said anything worth replying to, and now you just look desperate.

I'm brushing you off, but your lack of self awareness means you can't pick up on it.

 

[louismaxwell]

I don't think that's what most women are complaining about when they talk about being harassed. At least not in my experience. Sort of things that have happened to partner/family/friends (and that frankly gets my goat a bit)

- "****en smile you bitch"
- "show us your ****"
- "that's a fat arse"
- "****in ****"
- having a big goose block them in on a crowded bus and spend the next 10 minutes staring down their top
- being called over to a parked car, to discover a bloke having a wank
- groped on train
- cameraphone up skirt on the station steps
- hand up dress at 7pm at a pub
- followed home from train

That sort of thing. Which seems to happen an awful lot to women I know, to the point where they talk about it to each other casually.

Whats going on, i have partner/family/friends, and none have had to put up with this sort of behaviour, are you embellishing or are the females in your group dressing in a manner that brings these perves out of their holes. It seems to be occurring to your group on a too regular basis, is their underlying issues that your group seem to attract the most unattractive.

 

[The Coup]

Whats going on, i have partner/family/friends, and none have had to put up with this sort of behaviour, are you embellishing or are the females in your group dressing in a manner that brings these perves out of their holes. It seems to be occurring to your group on a too regular basis, is their underlying issues that your group seem to attract the most unattractive.

You know some of those examples quite definitely count as assault - you're victim blaming.

Women could walk around borderline naked and that behaviour would still be unacceptable.

Australia's a small place. Lecherous entitled boofheads abound.

 

[PaddyO]

Seriously, where are the mods around here. FFS. What a waste of time.

 

[John Dawh]

The mods are aware that there's people in here for no other reason but to start a fight. No doubt they will turf out the retaliator.

 

[J_Moore]

Whats going on, i have partner/family/friends, and none have had to put up with this sort of behaviour, are you embellishing or are the females in your group dressing in a manner that brings these perves out of their holes. It seems to be occurring to your group on a too regular basis, is their underlying issues that your group seem to attract the most unattractive.

I think you'd be surprised the shit that most woman put up and don't make a big deal about because it happens often enough that it's considered normal, or they don't think it's worth making a big deal out of. Maybe you're just not curious enough, or maybe - since you're a "yeah but what were they wearing?" type of braindead ****wit - women just don't really feel like talking to you about it?

 

[Messenger]

This thread needs a cleansing. If it not worth saving I'll probably smother it with a pillow.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Just don't do it.

If you wanna go compliment women, go to a bar or a club, where at least it's a socially acceptable place to pick up.

 

[Floor Pie]

Just don't do it.

If you wanna go compliment women, go to a bar or a club, where at least it's a socially acceptable place to pick up.

Exactly.
Location location location.

In our modern society, having a stranger shout at you in public is just all around uncomfortable, and just isn't accepted anymore. It's not something that anyone should have to put up with.

 

[John Dawh]

Exactly.
Location location location.

In our modern society, having a stranger shout at you in public is just all around uncomfortable, and just isn't accepted anymore. It's not something that anyone should have to put up with.

So you "pick up" zones? Sure, that'll work.

What about all the women who met their bloke somewhere else where it's likely the bloke made the first move? You want to ban that?


This is a picture of me:

http://i.imgur.com/rFEl05T.jpg


Come at me.

 

[Floor Pie]

So you "pick up" zones? Sure, that'll work.

What about all the women who met their bloke somewhere else where it's likely the bloke made the first move? You want to ban that?


This is a picture of me:

http://i.imgur.com/rFEl05T.jpg


Come at me.

Could you try not to **** the thread up again?

 

[louismaxwell]

Could you try not to **** the thread up again?

Talk about pot calling the kettle black, your reputation of the trolling bully of the forum is now beyond repair. Take a real good hard look at yourself and try and regulate your behaviour. PLEASE

 

[TheFreshBanana]

So you "pick up" zones? Sure, that'll work.

What about all the women who met their bloke somewhere else where it's likely the bloke made the first move? You want to ban that?


This is a picture of me:

http://i.imgur.com/rFEl05T.jpg


Come at me.

Yeah, because there are so many stories about how they met their partner because he cat called them....

 

[John Dawh]

Yeah, because there are so many stories about how they met their partner because he cat called them....

What? You said guys should only try pick up in bars. Old mate agreed with you. That's ridiculous.

 

[Floor Pie]

What? You said guys should only try pick up in bars. Old mate agreed with you. That's ridiculous.

No, he said "If you wanna go compliment women, go to a bar or a club, where at least it's a socially acceptable place to pick up."

Not that you should only do it there.

Cat calling is not something that should be done. We, as a society, are too educated to debase ourselves to that level.
There is no reason for it.
And no one should have to put up with it.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

What? You said guys should only try pick up in bars. Old mate agreed with you. That's ridiculous.

Why would you want to try and pick up chicks who have no interest in even being picked up?

You don't get positive results and it annoys, and even makes the girl uncomfortable. It makes no sense.

 

[John Dawh]

Cat calling is not something that should be done. We, as a society, are too educated to debase ourselves to that level.
There is no reason for it.
And no one should have to put up with it.

Thanks Cap'm.

 

[Floor Pie]

Thanks Cap'm.

You're welcome Seaman Stains.

 

[John Dawh]

Why would you want to try and pick up chicks who have no interest in even being picked up?

You don't get positive results and it annoys, and even makes the girl uncomfortable. It makes no sense.

How do guys know if they have no interest? Mind reading? Jedi?

And do you really think girls don't want guys they would be interested try to pick them up? Of course they would. But how do men know if they are the one? They don't. So they ask or do whatever they do when trying to pick up or meet a girl they are interested.

This is totally acceptable yet women are complaining about it if it's from guys they aren't interested in.

I do worry that people take a stance first and that governs their logic. Seems to be what you doing and why you have made ridiculous assertions that guys should only try pick up in bars.

 

[Floor Pie]

Aaaanndd the thread is no longer about cat calling.

Why don't you make an actual thread on picking up women in public places if you want to discuss that so much?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Bottom line for me - picking up, and/or acceptance or rejection of the pick-up lines used, should be up to the individual. But it shouldn't be too much to ask that it stays respectful. Some people actually dig the aggressive approach, but it's very hard to tell until it's tried and either accepted or rejected.

This doesn't mean we should aggressively approach everybody who catches our eye until we find someone who wants to 'go us' either, though.

I don't think there's much wrong with going up to someone and asking how they're doing, even complimenting them. However if they start looking uncomfortable in your presence or seem intent on ignoring you I think you've got to write it off. Move on.

How do guys know if they have no interest? Mind reading? Jedi?

And do you really think girls don't want guys they would be interested try to pick them up? Of course they would. But how do men know if they are the one? They don't. So they ask or do whatever they do when trying to pick up or meet a girl they are interested.

This is totally acceptable yet women are complaining about it if it's from guys they aren't interested in.

In most social settings body language is key. A look is key. You initially look at a girl. Does she smile? Is her face looking like its carved out of ice? How they look at you is often your first green (or red) light as to whether you should bother or not.

And this is universal. Across the sexes. You smile at a girl and she'll smile back and approach. You do the same.

If a girl stalks around with a sour look on her face I don't bother - even if she's gorgeous.

Don't concentrate on reading minds, Bunsen. Read looks. Read body language. Interpret their intent that way.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

How do guys know if they have no interest? Mind reading? Jedi?

And do you really think girls don't want guys they would be interested try to pick them up? Of course they would. But how do men know if they are the one? They don't. So they ask or do whatever they do when trying to pick up or meet a girl they are interested.

This is totally acceptable yet women are complaining about it if it's from guys they aren't interested in.

I do worry that people take a stance first and that governs their logic. Seems to be what you doing and why you have made ridiculous assertions that guys should only try pick up in bars.

Given the chorus of agreeance by females about the cat call video in New York, yeah, I think I can gather that most girls (not all), don't like to be picked up when all they want to do is go from point A to point B.

Life doesn't revolve around picking up chicks or "finding the one". If a chick wants to be picked up, it seems logical that she'd go to an actual place, where picking up is expected. Not when she's got other shit to do. Why the **** would she want to bother with blokes who cat call them?

You've already touched on that girls complain about cat calls when it's from guys they aren't interested in. You already know they're not interested. So why even bother? Maybe if she gives you a smile, or some signal to show you she's physically attracted to you.

I'm not setting restrictions as to where and when you can pick up. But most of the chicks you pick up, from what I can gather from the feedback I've seen about the cat call video, don't want to be cat called on the street. So why do it?

 

[John Dawh]

In most social settings body language is key. A look is key. You initially look at a girl. Does she smile? Is her face looking like its carved out of ice? How they look at you is often your first green (or red) light as to whether you should bother or not.

And this is universal. Across the sexes. You smile at a girl and she'll smile back and approach. You do the same.

If a girl stalks around with a sour look on her face I don't bother - even if she's gorgeous.

Don't concentrate on reading minds, Bunsen. Read looks. Read body language. Interpret their intent that way.

Thanks for the pick up advice but I'm right for that.

That's all nice a simple in theory yet so many guys get it wrong. I know some guys are stupid, but I think you're expecting way too much. If men had to wait until they get they obvious signal then we may as well pack it all in, turn the tables, and have women pick us up and propose to us.

I assume you have had the odd knock back like the rest of us, right? So ask yourself why you got it wrong?

And how many times have you heard women say "I just can't get this guy to notice I'm interested". There's a broad range in female behavior. What's showing interest from one, it being friendly and polite but not interested in another.

Unless we're Brad Pitt, let's not bullshit ourselves that reading the play is easy.

 

[John Dawh]

Given the chorus of agreeance by females about the cat call video in New York, yeah, I think I can gather that most girls (not all), don't like to be picked up when all they want to do is go from point A to point B.

That's just not true though. They don't want to get picked up by guys they aren't interested in. They do want to get picked by by guys they are interested in.

You following?

Now how do guys know if they are the right guy?

If a chick wants to be picked up, it seems logical that she'd go to an actual place, where picking up is expected.

That's just complete rubbish.

"Sorry Brad (Pitt), I'm off duty. I'm just going about my business at the laundromat and don't want to be approached by men. It's a shame it wasn't Friday night at the local discoteque because I'm sure I'd be interested if it was".

Come on, get your hand off it.

Not when she's got other shit to do. Why the **** would she want to bother with blokes who cat call them?

What has cat call got to do with anything? You categorically stated, multiple times, that guys shouldn't approach girls except for at bars and other appropriate places where women all of a sudden make themselves available to be approached.

You've already touched on that girls complain about cat calls when it's from guys they aren't interested in.

Yeah, nah. Not at all.

You already know they're not interested.

Can you explain how guys should know?

I'm not setting restrictions as to where and when you can pick up. But most of the chicks you pick up, from what I can gather from the feedback I've seen about the cat call video, don't want to be cat called on the street. So why do it?

What? Have you read the thread? You are aware that I have said multiple times that cat calling is not okay, right?