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Autopsy Cats lose to Lions by 41 points.

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Brisbane were way way too good.

Game over from the start

We played and looked like losers.

Masterclass by their coach

Reality check

Their class rises to the top

They sliced us up running through the middle

Shallow kicks killed us

We cannot score from turnovers

They had no long kicks to our backman

Disinterested

Kicking for goal abysmal

Duncan is the turnover king

They were so broken they would not even stand the mark in the goal square

top 8 AF rated players were Brisbans

We need another Atkins

Team could not deliver for Danger

Gives an indication of the coming finals

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Credit to the Lions so clean with the ball all night by hand and foot as clean as any side I've seen this year and to top it off they kicked straight for goal by contrast the Cats started slow fumbled bumbles and turned the ball over with monotony and could hit the broadside of the barn with a hand full of wheat and by half time we had lost all composure.Go to the bye now recharge and attack the second half of the season
 
COS
Atkins
Humphries
MOC
Zuth
Jack Henry
can all hold heads up high

Jezza kicked 4.

PFD 350 and Stengle 100 was lamentable.

The rest were ordinary.

Cant keep our feet and cant hold skills in the conditions - the conditions meaning it was pressured and slippery.

Heading into the bye with plenty to think about.

The rest.... take a long hard look.

Its only 1 game but certainly one to review hard to find the issues.

Jsut not good enough tonight and bad kicking is bad footy - 6.15... enough said.

Prob 5 goals misster just missed.

Martin and Duncan will do well to hold their spots.

Go Catters
Again.. Was or actually slippery?? And why given their was no rain?!
 
That was dreadful but I’ll give us a mulligan. Absolutely everything went wrong tonight and we could never get going. Was the first time all year that we didn’t fire a single shot the entire game. Basically every top team has had at least 1 putrid game this season, I guess tonight was ours. Just a shame it had to happen in another milestone game. I’d back us in to do better should we meet them again in finals, and I’ll back the club in to do the work behind the scenes to ensure that that’s the case.

Plenty of work to do over the bye though and hopefully it’s the freshen up we need, because we were completely listless tonight.
 
That was an utter disgrace. Enright milestone game 2.0

It completely changed my perception of the clubs chances this year. If we are capable of a capitulation like that, mentally, we are not a hope in September.

We read too much media this week, drinking the bath water how good we are.

Pretenders I think we are, unfortunately.

Great game from Connor O’Sullivan. He’s going to be the next Harry Taylor.

Feel sorry for Danger, he deserved more.
I’m not sure we are pretenders, but wouldn’t want to see that effort again.
 
Flat as a tack.
The harder they worked, the more the ball bounced their way. We couldn't buy a goal a few times there.
A lot of players off their tucker tonight. Our tackling wasn't flash. I listened to Zorko before the game, and he sounded pretty confident they were going to win - mentioned we hadn't landed many tackles against the Giants so they were keen to run and carry their way through. They were going to back their midfielders in. Very prophetic.
 
That was an utter disgrace. Enright milestone game 2.0

It completely changed my perception of the clubs chances this year. If we are capable of a capitulation like that, mentally, we are not a hope in September.

We read too much media this week, drinking the bath water how good we are.

Pretenders I think we are, unfortunately.

Great game from Connor O’Sullivan. He’s going to be the next Harry Taylor.

Feel sorry for Danger, he deserved more.

said the same thing.
 
There's too many things to say to cover in one point, but here's a few.

We do not play our best football at our home ground. This is a point I have been consistent on for many years. It's not a fortress and many teams do not fear playing here. We have GWS taking the absolute piss and beating us four times in a row down here, struggling to deal with Richmond last year, barely squeaking past St Kilda, completing two fake comebacks against Port and GWS last year and now this absolute disaster. I don't know what the solution is but this is a significant problem that is going under the radar. We play our best football at the MCG. Have zero interest in holding finals at KP until this is sorted.

Back to handbagger stuff tonight. We could not retain the pill and couldn't split the ball. Maddeningly poor around the ball. Chasing all night. Disgusting.

Miers, absolutely disgraceful. Comfortably the worst game I've ever seen him play. He was so poor it was almost a droppable performance. Yes, it was 'that' bad. The fact he yet again attempted a cute kick on the 45 in our defensive 50 and it was almost cut off yet again just defied all possible logic.

Close almost as poor, basic kicks under limited pressure missing targets by a country mile. He also looks like he'd get blown over by a gust of wind. Weak and ineffectual.

Massive reality check for Holmes. I thought he had come of age over the past fortnight but he was given an absolute bath by the Ashcroft twins repeatedly.

Probably the only time I've ever been disappointed in Dangerfield. What a champion he is and he deserved so much better, but he showed zero composure in front of goal. Rushed his set shots when we needed stability. Really disappointing.

Smith... the less said the better. Would have been lucky to have gone at 40% by foot.

I don't want to see Jack Martin again for some time. Turnover merchant, sprayed a regulation set shot.

Stengle and Mannagh, nowhere to be seen at the fall of the ball. Unfathomable.

Dempsey zero impact and zero toughness. I fear he will never reach his potential with how poor his footskills are. Doesn't go when it's his turn and gets shrugged off when he 'tackles' often.

Duncan has had some laughable poor moments so far this year and tonight dished up a couple more.

Atkins left his brain in the lockeroom, he tried hard all night but the decision making was laughably bad.

COS is a poor user of the ball. Needs to sort that out, really iffy under any sort of pressure.

On some slightly more positive notes.

I thought Stewart continued trending in the right direction, he made some poor mistakes (who on the team didn't) but I think he won his position. Ditto Jack Henry.

Special mention to Jezza. I have been a hard marker of his at times but he had nothing go his away and he kept toiling all night. Kicking 4 given that team performance was exceptional and guess what? He did the simple things right and executed... if only his teammates could have done the same. I thought that was one of his best games. Would have kicked 8 if we could have enjoyed any sort of momentum.

All of the above takes nothing away from Brisbane, they were marvellous. They didn't waste their chances and absolutely cut us up in the middle. Whether we like it or not they have our measure and we have become something of a bunny for them.

It's not a complicated game sometimes but my word did we make it so tonight.

We may go on to win it all from here but it's hard to remember too many premiers that delivered that poor of a performance this deep into the season.
 

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Arrogant display.

It's only a vibe thing, and our club walks the tightrope of 'relaxed environment vs complacency' better than anybody, but this looked like a week of drinking their own bathwater.

The usual whipping boys in MOC, Neale, and Mullin will cop the worst of it I'm sure, but this isnt on them. This wasn't an issue regarding individuals, it was an epidemic of complacency.

Atkins battled hard all night, Jack Henry never stopped trying, and COS kept working, even through a few mistakes. Didn't mind Martin's effort either, even if it didn't always come off.

Full credit to Brisbane, came in with a plan to shift around our zone and executed it well, and we never seemed bothered enough to adjust.

Not all bad in the greater scheme of things, and it's our only truly awful performance of the year, so I'll give them a mulligan that they've earned.

You wouldn't want to see this again after the bye though.
Don’t agree about arrogant display. Lack of respect for Brisbane by many of our supporters. I really think last week’s game was a poor preparation.
 
Yeah nah terrible take..singling out one player that was decent all night and gave some effort

Then again with your history I’m not suprised at all

I don’t think I singled him out, it was in response to several posters saying he played a great game.

I said he put in a good effort but made several errors that led to goals, which is not unusual for a young defender when under siege, but he was not good tonight in my opinion.
 
Awful game. We do seem to have a few of those round this part of the year
Often after everyone gets excited and starts planning the September celebrations.
Brisbane seem to have the secret sauce when they play us, but I thought a chilly Kardinia night would have sorted them out. They made us look like cellar dwellers tonight, so good luck to them.
We had a dog of a night with many players seemingly already checked out for the bye. They came to play and get the KP monkey off the back.
That said Scott and co need to study the replays and work out just what they are doing to break us open so comprehensively.
 
I don’t think I singled him out, it was in response to several posters saying he played a great game.

I said he put in a good effort but made several errors that led to goals, which is not unusual for a young defender when under siege, but he was not good tonight in my opinion.
I strongly disagree but nothing unusual with you really
 
We cannot score from turnovers
No, the problem is that we can. It's our greatest strength, up there with our scores from stoppage.

The issue with that is when the pressure that causes those turnovers is lamentable (like it was tonight) and Atkins is the only player at stoppage showing any intensity, then your whole game is shutdown.

Brisbane beat us at our own game tonight. Brilliant coaching, and well played.
 

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No, the problem is that we can. It's out greatest strength, up their with our scores from stoppage.

The issue with that is when the pressure is lamentable (like it was tonight) and Atkins is the only player at stoppage showing any intensity, then your whole game is shutdown.

Brisbane beat us at our own game tonight. Brilliant coaching, and well played.
We weren’t afforded any space and relied on turnovers from no pressure acts ..which was a strange tactic really

Brisbane outplayed us plain and simple
 
One team handled the ball like it was rosin grip, the other team played with a cake of soap. One team kicked straight, and the other team did not. So this little piggy went wahwahwah all the way home. 😭

Sorry. I couldn’t resist. 😜
 
I'm dying on the hill that everything the media will say about this being a Brisbane master-class is wrong

Thought I'd reply here as Daz was going to lock the other thread

I have no doubt we'll see that from the media, just as we've been seeing it on here throughout the match

Did we play well - no, but it also didn't feel like we were dismantled, destroyed and back to the drawing board etc

Tonight reminded me a bit of our pre-season clash with Essendon; they couldn't miss and looked a million bucks throughout the match and we made everything look hard. That night it was 23 scoring shots to 19, but Essendon ran out 21 point winners... Let's look at how the two teams are currently fairing

While I'm disappointed in the defensive pressure; 50 tackles for the match with 17 in the last quarter which is great, it makes the 20 in the first half look like the shit it was

We more than had our chances throughout the night - what may have been if Tyson kicks the first goal against the run of play? Instead we see Brisbane pile on 4 quick goals, including at least one arsy one

We just missed way too many gettable goals that we've been converting in recent weeks

As the final predicted scores say - we convert we win. I get the frustration from the fans, but the coaches aren't throwing everything out the window after tonight's performance

If tonight's performance becomes a pattern, then it gives the coaches something to seriously think about. But we don't throw out what's clearly been working over the first 15 rounds and seen us get to 10 wins - let's not overreact off one loss

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Turnovers vs score involvements

Smith: 12/7
Holmes: 5/4
Miers: 5/4
Dangerfield: 5/6
Stanley: 4/3

31 turnovers, 24 score involvements. Shocking ratio.

Duncan, Martin and Close somehow only had 7 turnovers between them, but missed kicks otherwise that I guess ended up in congestion or missed goal shots etc.

3.11 from set shots. Underperforming expected score by 40 points.

Pressure rating well below Brisbane's. Also 11 less tackles - I bet "effective tackles" there would be an even greater discrepancy.

Start there and work backwards.
 
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