Review Cats salute in Duncan's 300th

[Turbocat]

Well you didn’t. It’s an issue in the AFL and Dermot is a repeat offender.

I certainly did let it go….but if you want a comment. Should anyone who is not an expert be able to comment on anything . Women should not comment on footy ..they haven’t played it. In fact 99% of people have no right to comment on football..as they have not played it at the afl level. Don't comment on a movie if you are not a movie maker ..dont comment on babies if you have never had one… Walk thru an art gallery and make no comment as you have no real knowledge of anything you see? Are you saying no one should comment on anything if they are not an expert on it ?

 

[Generalissimo]

I've had that "Tequila" song stuck in my head since Neale's five goal haul.

 

[Pollywaffle]

I certain did let it go….but if you want a comment. Should anyone who is not an expert be able to comment on anything . Women should not comment on footy ..they haven’t played it. In fact 99% of people have no right to comment on football..as they have not played it at the afl level. Don't comment on a movie if you are not a movie maker ..dont comment on babies if you have never had one… Walk thru an art gallery and make no comment as you have no real knowledge of anything you see? Are you saying no one should comment on anything if they are not an expert on it ?

I’m not qualified to comment on this post

 

[Pollywaffle]

Yes, and that any benefit of the doubt goes in favour of the marker.

We’ve seen a lot worse this year..

 

[allrighty]

He was doing the defensive forward role on Dale, wasn't he? Dale had no impact on the game, so from that point of a view, he played well and did his job.

And I think that is his role often. Shut them down, let Messi do his work and the other big boys (and Tyson) shine. But he is always there or abouts isn't he?

 

[allrighty]

He was and Dale was well down on effectiveness. The Dogs rebound game was nullified very well and we created a lot of goals off turnovers from this source.

Close had a couple of poor efforts but otherwise scrapped well. I was surprised to see just how over the top the commentary was on him in the game day thread.

Well like a lot of stuff going on these days many people do not actually watch and see what is going on. They just go with the flow of things and click the I'm pissed off button. Which then triggers others and so on we go with that.

Close is integral to our setup and if Messi is not on then Close will often step into the spotlight a bit more. Sorta like kicking a clutch goal or something like that.

 

[allrighty]

Mmm I think I will let that go thru to the keeper.

Yes having turned around an aboriginal arts charity in central Oz a few years ago I will sit that one out too.

 

[Pollywaffle]

He was doing the defensive forward role on Dale, wasn't he? Dale had no impact on the game, so from that point of a view, he played well and did his job.

Good point if true. Another string to his bow. Let’s hope that was the case.
(Part of the stuff we don’t see watching on TV)
He did step up in the dying minutes for for some crucial Close style touches

 

[Cursed Cat]

It seemed to me that he was having to play bit more of a taller defenders role last night than he usually does as well as providing the usual distribution off half back. I thought it was a pretty complete performance and loved the special pride in the jumper.
I do probably watch him through rose-coloured glasses. It's like Enright - I don't remember him ever being beaten in a contest either, though logically I know it must have happened. Memory is like that.

Definitely a complete performance. As usual (from a 21 game sample size).

I was also definitely being pedantic in pointing out that he lost that 1v1 vs Van Der Meer - I should have said so: but the reason I even mentioned it is that Zuthrie's f*ck-that response to Van Der Meer's razz up post-conversion was really heartening.

Love Lawson and it was awesome to have his family woven into Sir Doug Nicholls round.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

IMHO A TV broadcast tells only one aspect of a game, as do stats. There is a whole other hidden game visible only to those who are there at the stadium.
A team is a system in a game, and every part of it can't be scoring multiple goals, getting 20+ touches, denying opposition passing lanes, or being in the camera angle often.

That's all fine but you need team standards and one of those is that you can trust your team-mate to get hit to protect you when it's his turn. Close shirked that too often (and this isn't the first game). Obviously you don't leave him out for 12 months as he's quality but id drop him for 2 weeks to the 2s to send a message to the rest of the squad. I think that would be worth doing.

 

[Mr Meow]

That's all fine but you need team standards and one of those is that you can trust your team-mate to get hit to protect you when it's his turn. Close shirked that too often (and this isn't the first game). Obviously you don't leave him out for 12 months as he's quality but id drop him for 2 weeks to the 2s to send a message to the rest of the squad. I think that would be worth doing.

Only if you do the same for Miers and Dempsey who have been repeat offenders in this area.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Only if you do the same for Miers and Dempsey who have been repeat offenders in this area.

I agree and if it was me I'd drop all of them plus Henry for the same reason-not in the same week of course but you would drop them staggered across certain weeks to send a message to the young kids working their ass off (like ted) about standards.

 

[Mr Meow]

I agree and if it was me I'd drop all of them plus Henry for the same reason-not in the same week of course but you would drop them staggered across certain weeks to send a message to the young kids working their ass off (like ted) about standards.

You'd be dropping a lot of players and we'd be dropping a lot of games.

How would you even do this? "Close: we're dropping you in 3 weeks based off this incident. Henry, we have you scheduled in for 5 weeks due to an incident 2 weeks ago, because Dangerfield is back then".

 

[Vdubs]

I agree and if it was me I'd drop all of them plus Henry for the same reason-not in the same week of course but you would drop them staggered across certain weeks to send a message to the young kids working their ass off (like ted) about standards.

Except there is not a single player who is not working his butt off, each week.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Gotta get that Collingwood blemish off the list. Mark Blicavs is on 276 and the vast majority of those must have been wins too!

Done the numbers. Based off this

AFL Tables - Mark Blicavs - Stats - Statistics

Blicavs has played 279 games for 183 wins. Don't think he can make it even if we win our next 20

 

[dudusmaximus]

Only if you do the same for Miers and Dempsey who have been repeat offenders in this area.

I think the speedy/agile/"short twitch" -type players, by nature, don't overcommit and want to be involved in the ongoing play longer (i.e post-possession by the opposition player). The game slows down for them and the point-of-no-return (where they neutralise themselves and the opposition player) happens a little later. It may appear bruise-free at times. Like "loosing their feet", they don't "loose themselves" in the contest for as long as possible. Conversely, the slow/heavy-set players tend to neutralise/kill the contest sooner. They are playing to their strengths.

IMO, on average, OHenry is being bruise-free (and, as evidenced by his last few games, being constantly coached against it) while Close/Miers/Dempsey are gambling they can still impact the outcome (i.e. their potential future offensive impact in that play could outweigh their immediate defensive impact).

I was amused that Jack Crisp (after his record breaking game) was sore not because Dempsey stuck his tackles, but because Dempsey ran him ragged.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You'd be dropping a lot of players and we'd be dropping a lot of games.

How would you even do this? "Close: we're dropping you in 3 weeks based off this incident. Henry, we have you scheduled in for 5 weeks due to an incident 2 weeks ago, because Dangerfield is back then".

Can't now due to injuries obviously but when we get the injured guys back you send a message. Stops guys getting comfortable.

 

[you pick one]

Did we just fail to last long enough? Was the quarter too long for us? Did we switch off… not for the first time that we have conceded a goal late

The late goal given up in quarters by Geelong has been going on for so long it has now become a given for me,that's an area the coach could work on as well as reprogramming Max Holmes to take his full 15 meters before bouncing.

 

[you pick one]

I agree and if it was me I'd drop all of them plus Henry for the same reason-not in the same week of course but you would drop them staggered across certain weeks to send a message to the young kids working their ass off (like ted) about standards.

I wish I'd saved this but 2 or 3 years back Scott on this subject said and I don't remember the exact words or circumstance but he wouldn't encourage his players to put themselves in a position where they were likely to sustain serious injury and mis being available to play for an extended period.He will know when that line is being crossed.

 

[standupand]

I certain did let it go….but if you want a comment. Should anyone who is not an expert be able to comment on anything . Women should not comment on footy ..they haven’t played it. In fact 99% of people have no right to comment on football..as they have not played it at the afl level. Don't comment on a movie if you are not a movie maker ..dont comment on babies if you have never had one… Walk thru an art gallery and make no comment as you have no real knowledge of anything you see? Are you saying no one should comment on anything if they are not an expert on it ?

I guess the point is it doesn't take any of us being an expert just to listen to Meeza and Lawson talk about the significance of the colours on the jersey.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

IMHO A TV broadcast tells only one aspect of a game, as do stats. There is a whole other hidden game visible only to those who are there at the stadium.
A team is a system in a game, and every part of it can't be scoring multiple goals, getting 20+ touches, denying opposition passing lanes, or being in the camera angle often.

Speaking of the broadcast - What i would give to be able to watch with crowd noise only.
It’s such a simple thing to incorporate as well.

The other night I had to mute the game because Jack Reiwoldt was unbearable.
It’s worth rolling back to the Dempsey “mark” just to hear the noise Reiwoldt let out. I actually thought he may have climaxed.

We don’t need play by play commentary. We can see what’s happening.
It’s so much more enjoyable to watch the game without ex footballers giving their opinions.

Rant/

 

[Pollywaffle]

I wish I'd saved this but 2 or 3 years back Scott on this subject said and I don't remember the exact words or circumstance but he wouldn't encourage his players to put themselves in a position where they were likely to sustain serious injury and mis being available to play for an extended period.He will know when that line is being crossed.

And maybe avoiding contact resulting in suspensions etc.. Makes sense these days.

 

[Turbocat]

The late goal given up in quarter by Geelong has been going on for so long it has now become a given for me,that's an area the coach could work on as well as reprogramming Max Holmes to take his full 15 meters before bouncing.

Things like the holmes thing are frustrating. Like players calling for the ball when the distance is questionable ..especially when they have shown to be hot on it. Having said that … the judgement on distances are amazing random. How often do they run well over 15 and not be a called. It seems short kicks in the backline are more likely to be not 15 than those in the forward line.

 

[Strange Cat]

Speaking of the broadcast - What i would give to be able to watch with crowd noise only.
It’s such a simple thing to incorporate as well.

The other night I had to mute the game because Jack Reiwoldt was unbearable.
It’s worth rolling back to the Dempsey “mark” just to hear the noise Reiwoldt let out. I actually thought he may have climaxed.

We don’t need play by play commentary. We can see what’s happening.
It’s so much more enjoyable to watch the game without ex footballers giving their opinions.

Rant/

It annoys me too that they do a play by play …understable on the radio but not on tv…unfortunately it’s a giant boys club they really should have professionals in the role and not ex football players

 

[Mr Meow]

Speaking of the broadcast - What i would give to be able to watch with crowd noise only.
It’s such a simple thing to incorporate as well.

The other night I had to mute the game because Jack Reiwoldt was unbearable.
It’s worth rolling back to the Dempsey “mark” just to hear the noise Reiwoldt let out. I actually thought he may have climaxed.

We don’t need play by play commentary. We can see what’s happening.
It’s so much more enjoyable to watch the game without ex footballers giving their opinions.

Rant/

I know what you mean, although sometimes it's genuinely funny hearing commentators audibly groan when Geelong get a free kick or opposition make a mistake etc. I don't like it when they start bitching and rambling about Geelong having 4 extra men because I know I'll have to deal with 500 BigFooty idiots who say "even the commentators said Geelong got a ride!". It just creates more work for me.