Chad Wingard and racism

[fletma]

I just listened to Chad Wingard

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Chad Wingard

Age

32

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.5

5star

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D

10.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

talk to Damien Barrett on AFL Daily and have come away moved enough to post on it straight away. If you haven’t listened, I fully urge you to do so, it is well worth the time.

As a white guy from south west and North Shore Sydney I have been privileged to have had no racism directed at me in my lifetime and to be honest it’s hard to think that it happens much today (simply because of my personal privileged experience) but Chad’s story about being recently (in 2021!) refused service/ignored at a car dealership is completely eye opening. I am completely mortified at the behaviour and attitudes that he and other indigenous and people of colour have to experience whether casual or deliberate. If in the future I vow that if I see or hear anything that I will speak up!

I’d also like to say that Chad is a very impressive speaker, he comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, and articulate. Hawthorn, the AFL and Australia are lucky to have a guy like this in our ranks. Thankfully he is one of ours and I hope he can continue to have a long career in the brown and gold.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Listen here.

Chad Wingard's unmissable racism interview with Damian Barrett - AFL Daily

The Online Safety Act is a step in the right direction (0:00); The number one priority is to support people who have been vilified (3:50); Some of the impact of racism 9:40); We need to move together as one (17:00); The importance of education (25:00); Chad's message to abusive social media...

omny.fm

 

[Yuley95]

Chad seems like a quality human. Regardless of whether he is or not, it's embarrassing how racist Australia remains in general. It's particularly disappointing we don't study, value and celebrate our rich aboriginal history.

 

[TazHawk15]

I recently did a cultural awareness day course, well worth it to try to understand things from the Tasmanian aboriginal perspective.

This of course is goes for the entire country and the original inhabitants.

One thing I have decided to undertake is to march with the Tasmanian Aboriginal community on the 26th of January next year and until it happens, to change the date.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

When you learn the history of colonisation and what has happened to Indigenous people up until the last third of the 1900s - you suddenly realise that some tokenistic welfare and affirmative action programs aren’t a magic wand to fix close to 200 years of a complete dismantling and subjugation of a group of people. The same people who are so against teaching this history would be the same that would want to hammer home how evil the Japanese were in WWII and could not wait to tell you about the human rights atrocities under the CCP. It’s naive to want to highlight those but just completely ignore what had transpired here and the legacy that had created today.

 

[Accipiter]

Chad seems like a quality human. Regardless of whether he is or not, it's embarrassing how racist Australia remains in general. It's particularly disappointing we don't study, value and celebrate our rich aboriginal history.

To follow on from the above post I work FIFO on an exploration site 650 km inland from Port Headland in the Pilbara in WA. I am privileged to meet and work with Aboriginal locals; many people would be surprised at the discipline and complexity of pure Aboriginal culture and I could not agree more with Yuley95's comments.

 

[The hands of stone]

I just listened to Chad Wingard talk to Damien Barrett on AFL Daily and have come away moved enough to post on it straight away. If you haven’t listened, I fully urge you to do so, it is well worth the time.

As a white guy from south west and North Shore Sydney I have been privileged to have had no racism directed at me in my lifetime and to be honest it’s hard to think that it happens much today (simply because of my personal privileged experience) but Chad’s story about being recently (in 2021!) refused service/ignored at a car dealership is completely eye opening. I am completely mortified at the behaviour and attitudes that he and other indigenous and people of colour have to experience whether casual or deliberate. If in the future I vow that if I see or hear anything that I will speak up!

I’d also like to say that Chad is a very impressive speaker, he comes across as intelligent, thoughtful, and articulate. Hawthorn, the AFL and Australia are lucky to have a guy like this in our ranks. Thankfully he is one of ours and I hope he can continue to have a long career in the brown and gold.

Thanks for advising , its a great listen.
He really does speak so well.

 

[MinerBoy]

Thanks for the posts. I will definitely make time to listen later today.

 

[chopflop]

White privilege- The privilege of being able to walk around blissfully unaware of the colour of your skin. Chad's car park episode shows how many aboriginal people (and many other racial minority groups) live an existence where they are constantly made aware of the colour of their skin and their "difference"... The sideways glance, the extra security in the shop, the lack of service in the car yard etc etc. The weight of these thousands of micro incidents came through strongly in that interview.

 

[The Chad and I]

I started following Chad on insta soon after we traded for him.
It's obvious to me why an intelligent, thoughtful and somewhat introverted person didn't fit in with that shitty club.
Yet another brilliant indigenous player driven out by imbeciles from that club and into ours.
So grateful for that.

Burgoyne, Impey, Wingard - guys if you have any other talented players with outstanding character, pls send them over.

 

[CHUBBSS]

I started following Chad on insta soon after we traded for him.
It's obvious to me why an intelligent, thoughtful and somewhat introverted person didn't fit in with that shitty club.
Yet another brilliant indigenous player driven out by imbeciles from that club and into ours.
So grateful for that.

Burgoyne, Impey, Wingard - guys if you have any other talented players with outstanding character, pls send them over.

Think that crosses over into his footy to, cares a lot which is great and really hope he can move into the leadership group next year, the club would be better for it. Allowing him to be a voice of the club even more so would be great to see.

An injury free Wingard is a dangerous prospect.

 

[Pessimistic]

If I never set foot in a car dealership as long as I live I’ll be happy

not wanting to trivialise the subject though

 

[Flukey!]

If I never set foot in a car dealership as long as I live I’ll be happy

not wanting to trivialise the subject though

What didn't you buy that you would have liked to?

 

[Pessimistic]

What didn't you buy that you would have liked to?

last seen in one probably 30yrs ago. Dinosaur salesman says to the wife ‘what colour do you like’ and not much else. All the transparent trickery they went through like you’re supposed to enjoy the experience

no thanks but I’m sure they’ve improved since

 

[MrPremiership]

So, the perception has changed on Chad that he was disinterested in much other than Fortnite?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It's a great listen, and he's absolutely spot on with his comments about calling out shit when you see/hear it. It's good that the clubs have started to really call this out when they see it, act on it and make statements of how unacceptable that behaviour is.

No saying is more apt than "the standard you walk passed, is the standard you accept".

 

[Mitchell Madness]

The truth is if you're white, you'll never get it. Being tokenistic and pretending you do won't change anything.
All you can do is try to be aware of how you night impact someone.
That isn't purely directed to race, but also things like disability, and poverty.

 

[grumbleguts]

The truth is if you're white, you'll never get it. Being tokenistic and pretending you do won't change anything.
All you can do is try to be aware of how you night impact someone.
That isn't purely directed to race, but also things like disability, and poverty.

This isn't true. I spent several years of my life being thrown in wells, being run over by people on bikes, spat at on the way to school, refused service because I was pale skinned. Then came back to Australia, where the majority of people were pale skinned and married a Mekeo woman. Went into a bank to get a loan for a car had all the forms ready to sign, all approved when my wife and our three kids walked in and asked how it was going, I told her it was all ready, when they lady serving me grabbed the forms and said she'd be right back and had to check with the manager on something. Came back out and said my income wasn't sufficient. Now this happened because of my wife, I felt every bit of the racism she experienced then because I had copped it my entire childhood I knew exactly how she felt. Despite being white (even though I have indigenous Australian heritage - no one would know to look at me) I knew how she felt and felt it with her. My wife has a PhD from the University of Sydney and tis bank teller saw fit to decide we didn't deserve the loan. This bank was Indigo or Bend and Go bank something like that. We went next door to a common and wealthier bank and they approved the loan in minutes with the exact same data.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

Chad seems like a quality human. Regardless of whether he is or not, it's embarrassing how racist Australia remains in general. It's particularly disappointing we don't study, value and celebrate our rich aboriginal history.

Yes totally agree.
At the end of the day it's their land and we stole it.

 

[Del33640]

no thanks but I’m sure they’ve improved since

I don't believe that they have, and if you think we have it bad in Australia... definitely don't try buying a car in the US. There is no end to the games they play, it's an endurance event.... usually around 3/4hrs in total, and makes you want to go home and shower when it's over. Doesn't matter how much or little a car costs, it's like running the gauntlet of the worst con-men imaginable.

I look forward to the day when we can all build and order new cars online. So many noble vocations have become obsolete the past decade or so, and it's a crime that so many car salespeople still earn a living by fleecing people looking to buy one of life's true essentials (in many places).

With that in mind, I'm not surprised that Chad had the experience that he did. If you've ever had aboriginal friends, you have seen similar on way too many occasions. In my own experience with Aboriginal friends or foster brothers, I've seen everything from egregious discrimination to avoidable childhood deaths back in the 1980s.