Unofficial Preview Changes and pre-match discussion vs St Kilda

[shintemaster]

FIFY

Logue and Daniel just don't belong. Their contributions are nett negative. Compare them to FOS and Hardiman who are so much better and are each only first year players.

Chom has to go back into defence (although he was carrying a pillow under his jumper so he probably should be going in for surgery to be ready for pre-season).

I noticed people saying that Konstanty is a pressure forward but I wonder if the team would be more capable with RHJ who seems to be more capable of producing score involvements.

Parker might be ok against St Kilda but he is below par against good teams.

RHJ won't be a pressure forward at AFL level, at least not with his current physical assets. I'm all for trying something with shuffling Konstanty (who I think has mostly been as advertised) but it would be Payne that would be the call.

 

[Moti]

This is it yeah. We can't keep going in with the same midfield mix and expecting this problem to resolve with a patchwork forward / backline.

We can't pressure.
We can't keep the ball.
We can't generate i50's.
We can't prevent i50's.

There are too many mids in there that are walk up starts but don't perform at a level that commands that. We need to sacrifice a couple of sacred cows - whether to the VFL or out of the centre square I don't really care.

Our midfield win clearances to win games. It is completely unrealistic to expect that to happen every single game. Moreover, it is not acceptable for them to concede the game whenever this isn't going their way. I genuinely think we need to make a statement there instead of blaming limited players filling roles that they shouldn't even be expected to fill at this stage of their careers.

play Colby and FOS in there for a start.

 

[The Nostradamus]

NWM might get 50 touches against us

 

[rickety]

RHJ won't be a pressure forward at AFL level, at least not with his current physical assets. I'm all for trying something with shuffling Konstanty (who I think has mostly been as advertised) but it would be Payne that would be the call.

JK needs a spell, and Payne has become a more versatile player as he has also been running through the middle. Has a lot of mad bastard about him too.

 

[Loose_Cannon]

What I would like to see and what it will be probably wildly different.

What could happen:
Out: JK, Dawson, Moose
In: Payne, Wardlaw, Larkey

 

[The Nostradamus]

What I would like to see and what it will be probably wildly different.

What could happen:
Out: JK, Dawson, Moose
In: Payne, Wardlaw, Larkey

Cooper Harvey will come back in before Payne

 

[shinboner magic]

Scamper is dead. Think they call that irony.

He’s lucky

Doesn’t have to watch this shit

 

[Loose_Cannon]

Cooper Harvey will come back in before Payne

Forgot he was illness not injury. Maybe someone else pulls up sore and Payne gets a look otherwise yeah, probably swap Coop in for Payne

 

[billnats]

Cooper Harvey will come back in before Payne

Take out Banch for him too

 

[CBSlogger]

Logue and Daniel should be dropped. Make a fn statement with those two at least.

I'd love to see Brayden in for Daniel, Riley can do the kick ins and wax with him. How good would it be to have 2 cannons capable of 80m plays out to the wing, and It's literally not possible to be defensively worse than Daniel.

Payne in for RHJ or JK.

Wardlaw in for someone, don't care who.

But who am I kidding... **** all significant changes so expect more of the same.

 

[bwinnmforevr]

NWM might get 50 touches against us

Definitely will get over 40, 50 could be in danger.

 

[The Dingrel]

JK needs a spell, and Payne has become a more versatile player as he has also been running through the middle. Has a lot of mad bastard about him too.

100pct this......AND nothing against Konstanty, I'm a fan, but I'd like to see him go back to VFL level and play around the ground to see if he can become more versatile than an inside 50 pressure guy who occasionally hits the scoreboard. Payne seems to have done that at VFL level, but gee I'd like to see if Konstanty could bring his tackling pressure to the midfield.
While everyone was waxing lyrical about Jeremy Cameron, Bailey Smith, and Holmes in last nights game, it all started in the middle with Atkins who created so much of their midfield ascendancy, shutting down LDU, tackling, working hard in close, and distributing to Smith et al.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Eddie ford has to be a chance as another option to replace Caleb Daniel

5

Caleb Daniel

Age

29

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

 

[rickety]

100pct this......AND nothing against Konstanty, I'm a fan, but I'd like to see him go back to VFL level and play around the ground to see if he can become more versatile than an inside 50 pressure guy who occasionally hits the scoreboard. Payne seems to have done that at VFL level, but gee I'd like to see if Konstanty could bring his tackling pressure to the midfield.
While everyone was waxing lyrical about Jeremy Cameron, Bailey Smith, and Holmes in last nights game, the unheralded match winner for Geelong was Atkins who created so much of their midfield ascendancy, shutting down LDU, tackling, working hard in close, and distributing to Smith et al.

Yep am a fan of JK too, but he's had a solid year ... just needs a few games to get a bit more of the ball. As you say, gaining some game time, confidence and versatility will only benefit him. LDU is on a hiding to nothing, and we have no runners of the ilk of Smith et al ...

 

[hilly]

In: Payne, George
Out: Konstanty, Logue

Give Payne and George half a game each, sub one off for the other at HT
Realistically we won't drop Daniel or Simpkin
More Mckercher/FOS/anyone in the midfield

 

[TruRoo]

Yep am a fan of JK too, but he's had a solid year ...

Solid?

He’s played every game as a specialist forward and has kicked 10 goals while getting the ball a couple of times a quarter.

He’s been poor

 

[JGreezy]

Tag NWM with FOS

Wherever he goes. Fwd, mid, back.

 

[rm3504]

Definitely will get over 40, 50 could be in danger.

All those top 5 picks we had and don’t have one superstar of the comp
Well done saints great drafting

 

[Possession]

Heads will have dropped already I imagine.

 

[Gasometer]

No Xerri

No North

50 point loss incoming

 

[JGreezy]

All those top 5 picks we had and don’t have one superstar of the comp
Well done saints great drafting

Hey? Sheezel, Curtis, Xerri... others are still young

 

[backtothedraft]

FB: Hardeman, Dawson, Pink
HB: McKercher, Comben, O’Sullivan
C: Stephens, Wardlaw, Simpkin
HF: Zurhaar, Darling, Sheezel
FF: Curtis, Larkey, Payne
Foll:Teakle, Davies-Uniacke, Powell

I: Duursma, Parker, Harvey, George, Banch

In: Larkey, Wardlaw, Harvey, Payne, George
Out: Maley, Hansen Jr, Konstanty, Daniel, Logue

 

[Only Forwards]

I mean a team only needs to do three things to beat us.

• spread hard
• maintain width
• get the ball to the outside as often and quickly as possible.

Lyon will have them drilled well enough to do that.

I don’t doubt we’ll get a response of some description from our lot but we’ve seen this film before. It won’t be enough, we don’t have it in us.

 

[The Dingrel]

Eddie ford has to be a chance as another option to replace Caleb Daniel

I reckon half the magoos team should be!

 

[zoomba23]

Will be a pleasure to watch NWM, anyway