Preview Changes and prematch discussion vs Carlton

[Cyber_punk]

2006 was the worst I've seen followed by 2009. The start and ends of 2001 were awful too.

But this year could top them all

 

[BowWow1978]

I am still not convinced Higgins is 100% fit, just like Cunners and Jack, we are tempting fate by continuing to select him, might be time to use the "Managed" term for once.

He did have about a million possies on Saturday night though. I'm with you, previous week he looked proppy, but was one of our few good ones against the Tigers.

I'm worried about Simpkin's ankle that he hurt first contest. Would've got a jab, same as TT the week before. Hopefully he doesn't miss this week.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I get that you're annoyed, but that "bereft" comment is pure garbage.

What reasons can you think of that make you want to watch this team?

Simpkin? Has been exceptional but now injured.

Goldy? An absolute colossus, but not exactly must see viewing.

Skills? Next.

Hardness? They’re all missing.

Scoring? Ummm.

Gamestyle?

The only one I can think of is Curtis Taylor but he gets the footy about 10 times a game.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Please don’t lose this week. I cant handle all the sh*t I will cop for the rest of the year.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

What reasons can you think of that make you want to watch this team?

Simpkin? Has been exceptional but now injured.

Goldy? An absolute colossus, but not exactly must see viewing.

Skills? Next.

Hardness? They’re all missing.

Scoring? Ummm.

Gamestyle?

The only one I can think of is Curtis Taylor but he gets the footy about 10 times a game.

Thus proving it is not "bereft of any semblance of a redeeming feature".

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[King Corey]

The 2006 team and the way it played was the worst I can recall before this year. 2009 not too far behind but they had that win against the Saints

2011 had some horrific displays but we still ended up with 10 wins.

I don't think this team with the way they play would get near the 2011 version. Would battle against the 2006 and 2009 teams too.

The Crocker led "Last month" 2009 team would do the current side by 5 goals.

The 2006 team would gut this mob like a pig. Don't forget that side had a typical North mid season pointless resurgence.

Big Sav and Thompson would be getting silver service from Wells and Harvey who we'd have no answer for. Grant would be getting off the leash from MacAtley every couple of minutes. Brady would be holding Higgins' balls in a vice.

Arch would mark everything we'd sky into our forward line while Spud would charge through our half-forwards and Jess and JWS would rebound at every opportunity.

Our wins would be Goldie getting the points over his direct opponent, Simpkin getting a bit of it and Taylor kicking a couple of goals against the run of play. Which as we've seen this year doesn't add up to much when 17 other blokes (Tarrant and Walker would do everything right but refer "silver service") are complete pus.

Conclusion: we suck

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Thus proving it is not "bereft of any semblance of a redeeming feature".

Thanks for clarifying.

I wouldn’t class Curtis Taylor’s small cameos as a redeeming feature.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I wouldn’t class Curtis Taylor’s small cameos as a redeeming feature.

Whatever.

At the moment we're at a low, but it's not 100% bad and nothing you say will convince me that it is.

 

[BowWow1978]

Mate no way we are this bad. All this talk of blokes that can’t kick, poor skills, terrible 2 way runners all that was fine in Round 2 and the back end of last years. They are as low on confidence as you will ever see. I reckon they will come good Saturday in the sun. North by 25 points

I'm starting to worry that the good run we went on last year was simply a result of the players relief that Scott was finally gone. Natural upturn in energy and excitement after finally seeing the back of him, rather than the players being on board with Shaw.
So far we've seen a game plan from Shaw that is very predictable, slow and prone to being slaughtered off half back, which incidentally is where most good sides excel at launching attacks from. Without Cunnington and Jed to win those down the line contests at ground level, it's not working.
We tried to mix it up against the Tigers by using hands more and attacking by foot and our players were not skilled enough. Plus Tigers are a bloody good pressure team.

Only excuse Shaw has is injuries at the moment. It's a valid excuse too by the way.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Whatever.

At the moment we're at a low, but it's not 100% bad and nothing you say will convince me that it is.

I’m not trying to convince you. That’s my current viewpoint on this team at this moment in time.

If you view it differently, great.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

The Crocker led "Last month" 2009 team would do the current side by 5 goals.

The 2006 team would gut this mob like a pig. Don't forget that side had a typical North mid season pointless resurgence.

Big Sav and Thompson would be getting silver service from Wells and Harvey who we'd have no answer for. Grant would be getting off the leash from MacAtley every couple of minutes. Brady would be holding Higgins' balls in a vice.

Arch would mark everything we'd sky into our forward line while Spud would charge through our half-forwards and Jess and JWS would rebound at every opportunity.

Our wins would be Goldie getting the points over his direct opponent, Simpkin getting a bit of it and Taylor kicking a couple of goals against the run of play. Which as we've seen this year doesn't add up to much when 17 other blokes (Tarrant and Walker would do everything right but refer "silver service") are complete pus.

Conclusion: we suck

Who takes Brad Moran?

 

[King Corey]

Who takes Brad Moran?

Hopefully history repeats and Adelaide are stupid enough to give us another 2nd rounder for him.

Edit: on second thoughts, get on him for the Kerridge. Big time.

 

[Mcarcherey]

Whatever.

At the moment we're at a low, but it's not 100% bad and nothing you say will convince me that it is.

individual cameos are great for a look into the future.

but the team hasn't looked competitive in the last 5 games. the ball movement is a joke and teams stroll it out of our forward line and and just bombard our d50 until the dam wall bursts. as a team and club it's pathetic, there are no excuses for the effort they've dished up.

when clubs perform like this, the individual cameo's don't matter because the bottom line is those players get poached and jump the sinking ship. clubs end up paying overs to keep some kind of star for marketing and provide hope.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

individual cameos are great for a look into the future.

but the team hasn't looked competitive in the last 5 games. the ball movement is a joke and teams stroll it out of our forward line and and just bombard our d50 until the dam wall bursts. as a team and club it's pathetic, there are no excuses for the effort they've dished up.

when clubs perform like this, the individual cameo's don't matter because the bottom line is those players get poached and jump the sinking ship. clubs end up paying overs to keep some kind of star for marketing and provide hope.

Not sure why you quoted me - I didn't make and wasn't reacting to a comment about an individual cameo.

 

[Mcarcherey]

Not sure why you quoted me - I didn't make and wasn't reacting to a comment about an individual cameo.

north is bereft of any redeeming feature.

watching us now reminds me of being in carlton and st kilda's position in the past decade. we're truly hopeless, opposition team fans can switch off knowing they're getting the 4 points, even if they miss over half their shots at goal like 4 of the last 5 teams we played did.

you know the feeling you get when we're terrible in front of goal and you think "omg, we need to capitalise this momentum", well opposition teams don't even think that when playing us because "meh, north won't even get it further than the wing without turning it over anyway".

how sad it is that our best chance of getting it up the ground is by getting it out of bounds on the d50, wing and f50 and scramble the ball forward. i cringe at the thought of getting a non-advantage free kick on the wing or half forward, opposition teams just line up to waltz it back up the ground. our team has no confidence and we're not the most skillful, but you don't need skills to not allow a team to just stroll from full back to their f50.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

north is bereft of any redeeming feature.

That statement is literally incorrect.

 

[Mcarcherey]

That statement is literally incorrect.

cool explanation

 

[Caracas]

north is bereft of any redeeming feature.

watching us now reminds me of being in carlton and st kilda's position in the past decade. we're truly hopeless, opposition team fans can switch off knowing they're getting the 4 points, even if they miss over half their shots at goal like 4 of the last 5 teams we played did.

you know the feeling you get when we're terrible in front of goal and you think "omg, we need to capitalise this momentum", well opposition teams don't even think that when playing us because "meh, north won't even get it further than the wing without turning it over anyway".

how sad it is that our best chance of getting it up the ground is by getting it out of bounds on the d50, wing and f50 and scramble the ball forward. i cringe at the thought of getting a non-advantage free kick on the wing or half forward, opposition teams just line up to waltz it back up the ground. our team has no confidence and we're not the most skillful, but you don't need skills to not allow a team to just stroll from full back to their f50.

Our blue & white stripes
Tarryn Thomas
Nick Larkey
Cameron Zurhaar
Robbie Tarrant
Ben Cunnington
Todd Goldstein
LDU
Majak
Curtis Taylor
Will Walker
Kyron Hayden
Jy Simpkin
The Huddle
Flynn Perez (name alone )
Higgins
...

I know you’re frustrated like all of us. But, come on...


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[Rod Stroker]

2006 was the worst I've seen followed by 2009. The start and ends of 2001 were awful too.

But this year could top them all

2013 wasn't much fun either. Heartbreaking loss after heartbreaking loss. Particularly games we were expected to win.

 

[Mcarcherey]

Our blue & white stripes
Tarryn Thomas
Nick Larkey
Cameron Zurhaar
Robbie Tarrant
Ben Cunnington
Todd Goldstein
LDU
Majak
Curtis Taylor
Will Walker
Kyron Hayden
Jy Simpkin
The Huddle
Flynn Perez (name alone )
Higgins
...

I know you’re frustrated like all of us. But, come on...


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did you read my post?

it doesn't mean much when they jump the sinking ship

 

[Caracas]

did you read my post?

it doesn't mean much when they jump the sinking ship

Yes, I did. Come on, you clearly stated that North was bereft of any redeeming feature. Maybe, you meant something else. However, it’s difficult to read that line in any other way.


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[Cyber_punk]

2013 wasn't much fun either. Heartbreaking loss after heartbreaking loss. Particularly games we were expected to win.

True but we were ultra competitive. Percentage of 119 even though we only won 10 games, biggest loss was 6 goals.

Those other years I mentioned we just folded in multiple games. No effort at all.

 

[DunderHead]

Wow this place is miserable.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Don't take this as fact, but I hear another senior player in middle is set to return for us this week.

Passed all fitness tests so I'm excited.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Out: Macmillan, Ziebell, Mahony, Hayden
In Daw, Zurhaar, Turner, LDU

Larkey in the week after