Preview Changes and prematch discussion vs *

[The Nostradamus]

If Larkey moves freely in training this week I’d take him in instead of the scratch match

need marking power asap

Maj now has 2 under his belt so should be straight in too

 

[Le Grille]

Out: Higgins (injured or not), Cunnington, Hall

In: Scott, Walker, Zeibell.




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[Le Grille]

If Larkey moves freely in training this week I’d take him in instead of the scratch match

need marking power asap

Maj now has 2 under his belt so should be straight in too

Disagree, wait until he is right


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[sutcliffe's hotel]

Qld fans just rang the club & they expect to be able to announce how to get tickets in the next day or two.

Stay safe Victorian fans, us Qlders will take it from here.

 

[Rob in Cologne]

With no Stringer in for them we are half a chance, as long as we play 22 fit players.

 

[New_Roo]

Disagree, wait until he is right


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But are including ziebel in your ins after a week?


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[andana]

Mix it up a bit.

Xerri Taylor Mahony

Zurhaar Brown wWalker

Scott Simpkin Atley

Lmac Walker Polec

Pittard Tarrant Williams


Goldy Anderson Hayden

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Out: Hall, Ben 10, Higgins (assume injured), Xerri
In: W Walker, Bonar, Scott, Daw (if fit and if not bring in Wood)

 

[Rad Roo]

The season is shot and not just for football reasons. Why not use 2020 to get the team right, by doing that we might start winning consistently as well. For too long, North victory is down to strong characters or emotionally driven bullcrap. We want to win consistently because of better players, superior ball movement and great role players.

Players like Ziebell, Cunnington and Macmillan are veterans of the club but offers little in the modern days. These 3 were very servicable during the 2010s but our midfield dynamic of relying on physcially strong mids is very much obselte. Inside mids today are your quick hands, nimble, nippy fast players who can apply repeated efforts. Z and C are clearly liabilities once the opposition has the ball.

Then we move onto Atley and Hall. These 2 needs to be given new roles and when i mean 'new', i really meant let them play to their advantage and that is running through the middle. Then you have to continuously train them to use their pace defensively to apply pressure. At the very least, these two have assets that if coached and utizlized properly will be weapons.

The perennially injured players like Turner, Garner, Jacobs need to go not so much of their fault but their prescence at the club is ultimately negative. Negativity is infectious. The club has to move them on, amicably of course and this is where the HR department needs to up their game to industrial standard level. Get them good jobs in the industry, upskill these players to adapt to the next phase of life.

One player that a lot has mentioned but i continue to believe in is Wood, he is just like Daw, never given an extended run hence their confidence dips, the big black cloud forms in the head but Wood is too good not to play at least 150 games. His best role will be on the half back flank, vacated by Macmillan albeit with superior disposal skills and atheleticsm.

Higgins out injured will be blessing in disguise and the same goes to Cunnington, them 2 out forces Shaw to truly rejig the team and play the game without having to rely on the past model that is becoming increasingly not practical as we got found out in 3 games. Our greatest weakness is the contest ball. We are quite weak at the clearance and winning the ball because the disposal skills are really bad so even if we get the ball, we don't deliver it properly.

 

[The Nostradamus]

3 talls pls over 192
Brown and 2 of Xerri, Wood, Daw,Larkey if fit

a small to make way for a tall

sick of playing with no height and wondering why we aren’t taking forward half marks when bombing to packs with no height on our end

 

[giantroo]

 

[Marstermind]

The season is shot and not just for football reasons. Why not use 2020 to get the team right, by doing that we might start winning consistently as well. For too long, North victory is down to strong characters or emotionally driven bullcrap. We want to win consistently because of better players, superior ball movement and great role players.

Players like Ziebell, Cunnington and Macmillan are veterans of the club but offers little in the modern days. These 3 were very servicable during the 2010s but our midfield dynamic of relying on physcially strong mids is very much obselte. Inside mids today are your quick hands, nimble, nippy fast players who can apply repeated efforts. Z and C are clearly liabilities once the opposition has the ball.

Then we move onto Atley and Hall. These 2 needs to be given new roles and when i mean 'new', i really meant let them play to their advantage and that is running through the middle. Then you have to continuously train them to use their pace defensively to apply pressure. At the very least, these two have assets that if coached and utizlized properly will be weapons.

The perennially injured players like Turner, Garner, Jacobs need to go not so much of their fault but their prescence at the club is ultimately negative. Negativity is infectious. The club has to move them on, amicably of course and this is where the HR department needs to up their game to industrial standard level. Get them good jobs in the industry, upskill these players to adapt to the next phase of life.

One player that a lot has mentioned but i continue to believe in is Wood, he is just like Daw, never given an extended run hence their confidence dips, the big black cloud forms in the head but Wood is too good not to play at least 150 games. His best role will be on the half back flank, vacated by Macmillan albeit with superior disposal skills and atheleticsm.

Higgins out injured will be blessing in disguise and the same goes to Cunnington, them 2 out forces Shaw to truly rejig the team and play the game without having to rely on the past model that is becoming increasingly not practical as we got found out in 3 games. Our greatest weakness is the contest ball. We are quite weak at the clearance and winning the ball because the disposal skills are really bad so even if we get the ball, we don't deliver it properly.

Sorry to latch onto one aspect of your post but are you suggesting we ship off Cunnington, but give Hall, Wood and Atley new roles?

 

[Pykie]

Staying on a golf course by the looks.

RACV Royal Pines maybe?

 

[DuckYeah]

Macmillan
Hall
Atley

not dropped l, thrown out of the ******* club!

 

[Rad Roo]

Sorry to latch onto one aspect of your post but are you suggesting we ship off Cunnington, but give Hall, Wood and Atley new roles?

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Well, since you want the explanation for a 4 year old.......

Cunnington = slow, can't pass the ball, can't defend.

Atley & Hall = very fast.

One is set in his way can is not a realistic proposition to be able to morph into a secondary role, the other 2 have potentials and have been doing mostly secondary roles where they should be in the thick of the action. A lot of people are critical of atley and hall because they got this and that issue, well if you put them in roles that require a lot of thinking, planning then they won't flourish. Put them right in the middle, let them run through the gut take on the opposition, at least for once we get the opposition to defend us, defend players who actually got great speed. Atley and hall needs to be forced to be instinctive players and also from a mental strategy side, take away their safety net of resting in the back and forward respective. Put them in situations where they have to consistent fight. Give them 6 weeks, if abject failure, then they are gone as we need to use the last 6 weeks to plan for the future. More often than not, great acheivement can happen when you take away the escape route. At north, we have always been too comfortable, too stagnant.

 

[Gasometer]

Well, since you want the explanation for a 4 year old.......

Cunnington = slow, can't pass the ball, can't defend.

Atley & Hall = very fast.

One is set in his way can is not a realistic proposition to be able to morph into a secondary role, the other 2 have potentials and have been doing mostly secondary roles where they should be in the thick of the action. A lot of people are critical of atley and hall because they got this and that issue, well if you put them in roles that require a lot of thinking, planning then they won't flourish. Put them right in the middle, let them run through the gut take on the opposition, at least for once we get the opposition to defend us, defend players who actually got great speed. Atley and hall needs to be forced to be instinctive players and also from a mental strategy side, take away their safety net of resting in the back and forward respective. Put them in situations where they have to consistent fight. Give them 6 weeks, if abject failure, then they are gone as we need to use the last 6 weeks to plan for the future. More often than not, great acheivement can happen when you take away the escape route. At north, we have always been too comfortable, too stagnant.

As Eminem once sang to Moby “it’s over” just like it is for these two developing into what you want

 

[Arden]

Staying on a golf course by the looks.

RACV Royal Pines maybe?

Mercure/Old Palm Meadows resort

 

[Pykie]

Mercure/Old Palm Meadows resort

The bill after 30+ days there for 60-70 odd people is going to be atrocious.

I imagine this is likely to cost the club in excess of $500k+ a month when taking into account all meals and misc spending.


May be a $1.5-$2m hit if we have to play the rest of the season there....

 

[Go_Roos!]

Mercure/Old Palm Meadows resort

Yep, Gold Coast Mercure, Us, Western Bulldogs and Carlton are all there. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[benbanjo]

The bill after 30+ days there for 60-70 odd people is going to be atrocious.

I imagine this is likely to cost the club in excess of $500k+ a month when taking into account all meals and misc spending.


May be a $1.5-$2m hit if we have to play the rest of the season there....

That place would have been desperate for the business.

 

[Uber Roo]

Well, since you want the explanation for a 4 year old.......

Cunnington = slow, can't pass the ball, can't defend.

Atley & Hall = very fast.

One is set in his way can is not a realistic proposition to be able to morph into a secondary role, the other 2 have potentials and have been doing mostly secondary roles where they should be in the thick of the action. A lot of people are critical of atley and hall because they got this and that issue, well if you put them in roles that require a lot of thinking, planning then they won't flourish. Put them right in the middle, let them run through the gut take on the opposition, at least for once we get the opposition to defend us, defend players who actually got great speed. Atley and hall needs to be forced to be instinctive players and also from a mental strategy side, take away their safety net of resting in the back and forward respective. Put them in situations where they have to consistent fight. Give them 6 weeks, if abject failure, then they are gone as we need to use the last 6 weeks to plan for the future. More often than not, great acheivement can happen when you take away the escape route. At north, we have always been too comfortable, too stagnant.

Cunnington can’t pass?
His handballs have been compared to Greg Williams
And his foot skills aren’t too shabby either


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[benbanjo]

Cunnington can’t pass?
His handballs have been compared to Greg Williams
And his foot skills aren’t too shabby either


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Compared to the likes of Jed, JZ and Lmac his kicking is Elite.

 

[Marstermind]

Well, since you want the explanation for a 4 year old.......

Cunnington = slow, can't pass the ball, can't defend.

Atley & Hall = very fast.

One is set in his way can is not a realistic proposition to be able to morph into a secondary role, the other 2 have potentials and have been doing mostly secondary roles where they should be in the thick of the action. A lot of people are critical of atley and hall because they got this and that issue, well if you put them in roles that require a lot of thinking, planning then they won't flourish. Put them right in the middle, let them run through the gut take on the opposition, at least for once we get the opposition to defend us, defend players who actually got great speed. Atley and hall needs to be forced to be instinctive players and also from a mental strategy side, take away their safety net of resting in the back and forward respective. Put them in situations where they have to consistent fight. Give them 6 weeks, if abject failure, then they are gone as we need to use the last 6 weeks to plan for the future. More often than not, great achievement can happen when you take away the escape route. At north, we have always been too comfortable, too stagnant.

Four year-old says
Cunnington = footballer who is elite by hand and more than good by foot. (not quick though)
Atley & Hall = finished

The type of player you want is perfectly fine. But backing in Hall & Atley, who have collectively played over 300 games without showing one iota of the capacity (other than being quick) to do it, is fanciful. There's a reason no coach has ever "forced" them to be instinctive players where they have to consistently fight. Aside from that, if we are going to get a couple of dogs to do some new tricks, let's try some of the young pups.

And, aside from being injured, Cunnington doesn't amount to 0.005% of our problems. All players are tradable, but saying Cunnington is finished but Atley, Wood and Hall have potential is your opinion, but not one I share whatsoever.

 

[Ry009]

Shipping off Cunnington on the basis of being a poor ball user?....

 

[Billy Not Really]

Being slow and having little leap is just about the only thing you can say Cunnington does poorly.

Which are the fundamentals of why people think he's 'not fit for the AFL today', because its all about athleticism in the realm of speed & endurance when the sport used to be about everything else as the most important qualities to have. Now people would rather have ball butchers, but boy can they run fast and run a long way so they must be worth keeping, right?

That's not Cunnington's problem, he can function in the AFL despite all that and does so well at an ELITE level, it's the AFL's problem. Its the game's problem itself.

I really don't want to live in a world where a player like Cunnington can't exist, and by association, every player of the past cannot exist. It ceases to become the sport of the everyman and just becomes the sport of the Olympic man. Sports science is a diluted mess.