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[Art Vandelay_]

Season average of 25 suggests that just isn't true.

Hogwash. Again he has barely played FC cricket. 3 matches, 5 hits (two of which he was told to throw the bat for quick runs).

He is a good cricketer when given a chance to show it, in the last season or two he hasn't had a lot of opportunities to show it.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Season average of 25 suggests that just isn't true.

Think we have a turd sandwich vs giant Douche situation here.

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Maxwell is a gamble cos if he comes off it changes a game but so often he doesn't fire
Stoinis is a gamble cos he has no form behind him but more capable of grinding out an innings

 

[The Offerman]

Hogwash. Again he has barely played FC cricket. 3 matches, 5 hits (two of which he was told to throw the bat for quick runs).

He is a good cricketer when given a chance to show it, in the last season or two he hasn't had a lot of opportunities to show it.

It's never Maxwell's fault.

 

[The Offerman]

Please, enlighten me as to who is at fault for him making 0 batting first drop and losing his middle peg against that Indian third xi a few weeks back.

Bat have a hole in it? Not told early enough he was batting 3? Bowling unfair?

 

[Present Not Past]

The facts are, we only have 5 top class batsman in these conditions.

After that it falls off a mighty cliff

You see I find this idea frustrating. Batting in cricket is a mind game. You watch the ball in the air and watch how it hits the pitch and you hit it with your bat. The kids who make it to the elite level have all mastered that. Why then do they forget everything all of a sudden when they have to play Test cricket?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It's never Maxwell's fault.

So how's he supposed to get form playing 1/4 of the innings he could be each shield season. Come on genius explain that one...

I'll wait. He's nearly always in the ODI side each Jan-Feb and sometimes in ODI sides before the season starts in Sept.

Sheffield shield innings

13/14: 12 (ave 45)
14/15: 1 (ave 53)
15/16: 9 (ave 56)
16/17: 5 (ave 26)

If CA stopped ****ing him around with meaningless ODI's they'd get a test no.6 in time.
14/15 was fair enough, he was playing in World Cup warm up series'

 

[The Offerman]

So how's he supposed to get form playing 1/4 of the innings he could be each shield season. Come on genius explain that one...

I'll wait. He's nearly always in the ODI side each Jan-Feb and sometimes in ODI sides before the season starts in Sept.

Sheffield shield innings

13/14: 12 (ave 45)
14/15: 1 (ave 53)
15/16: 9 (ave 56)
16/17: 5 (ave 26)

If CA stopped ******* him around with meaningless ODI's they'd get a test no.6 in time.
14/15 was fair enough, he was playing in World Cup warm up series'

Unless Australia are playing ODI's in Fitzroy your argument is completely irrelevant.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Unless Australia are playing ODI's in Fitzroy your argument is completely irrelevant.

Wow. Stupid comment-o-meter off the charts... Fitzroy?!?! WTF?!?!
Every season CA schedules ODI's/T20I after the Sydney test. Fact.
This is concurrent with the resumption of Sheffield shield cricket. Fact.
Maxwell is in the ODI side in recent seasons. Fact.
Ergo he misses shield matches. Fact.

He's competed in 27/82 innings since 13/14 which is a fraction under 1/3. One in three innings available in 4 ****ing seasons.

 

[The Offerman]

Wow. Stupid comment-o-meter off the charts... Fitzroy?!?! WTF?!?!
Every season CA schedules ODI's/T20I after the Sydney test. Fact.
This is concurrent with the resumption of Sheffield shield cricket. Fact.
Maxwell is in the ODI side in recent seasons. Fact.
Ergo he misses shield matches. Fact.

He's competed in 27/82 innings since 13/14 which is a fraction under 1/3. One in three innings available in 4 ******* seasons.

Who were Australia playing in coloured clothing at the start of the Shield season?

Only asking because you've said it's the only way Maxwell misses Shield cricket, and he wasn't in the Shield side. Also boggles the mind how Maxwell can have all those amazing Shield seasons, yet have a sub-40 career average. How weird.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Who were Australia playing in coloured clothing at the start of the Shield season?

Only asking because you've said it's the only way Maxwell misses Shield cricket, and he wasn't in the Shield side. Also boggles the mind how Maxwell can have all those amazing Shield seasons, yet have a sub-40 career average. How weird.

You're the one making up shit that's he's not good, that's been debunked.
He misses shield cricket every Jan-Feb and has missed shield matches early in the season too but not every season.

Maybe research the player in question next time before shooting from the hip over a 5 inning seasonal average

 

[eddiesmith]

You're the one making up shit that's he's not good, that's been debunked.
He misses shield cricket every Jan-Feb and has missed shield matches early in the season too but not every season.

Maybe research the player in question next time before shooting from the hip over a 5 inning seasonal average

He is talking about when Maxwell got dropped for trying to leave Victoria because being a brainless idiot 99% of the time, he knew if he played for NSW he would be in the test side before the summer was out

 

[The Offerman]

You're the one making up shit that's he's not good, that's been debunked.
He misses shield cricket every Jan-Feb and has missed shield matches early in the season too but not every season.

Maybe research the player in question next time before shooting from the hip over a 5 inning seasonal average

Facts are facts. He averages 25, and when given the responsibility of batting first drop to press his case for a Test spot he loses his pegs for 0. Apologies for not thinking he's the best ever.

As for research, ironic given you didn't get the Fitzroy reference. You know, where Maxwell played while Victoria played Shield cricket.

 

[The Offerman]

He is talking about when Maxwell got dropped for trying to leave Victoria because being a brainless idiot 99% of the time, he knew if he played for NSW he would be in the test side before the summer was out

Maybe if he didn't try to leave 120 days after the cut off point he'd actually have a case to press forward. Once again though, not his fault I imagine.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Facts are facts. He averages 25, and when given the responsibility of batting first drop to press his case for a Test spot he loses his pegs for 0. Apologies for not thinking he's the best ever.

As for research, ironic given you didn't get the Fitzroy reference. You know, where Maxwell played while Victoria played Shield cricket.

Who said anything about best ever. No one, just that he's not crap and as was the original discussion is FAR better than Stoinis. Which is really all that's relevant as that should be the two options here.

He missed 1 game, big ****ing whoop. He's missed far more on national duty, where the long term trend line shows his form is more than adequate.

 

[Scotland]

Maxwell averages 40 in FC cricket from 47 matches. An OK but not amazing record.

 

[The_Reaper]

Season average of 25 suggests that just isn't true.

25 >>>>>>>>>>> 15

 

[The_Reaper]

Maxwell averages 40 in FC cricket from 47 matches. An OK but not amazing record.

Stoinis is averaging ~15 over a full shield season.

 

[Scotland]

Stoinis is averaging ~15 over a full shield season.

But he bowls pace!

 

[JG22]

Maxwell averages 40 in FC cricket from 47 matches. An OK but not amazing record.

It's pretty good in the scheme of things

 

[Scotland]

It's pretty good in the scheme of things

Not really. Hilton Cartwright averages 45.

 

[JG22]

Not really. Hilton Cartwright averages 45.

Hes hasn't played nearly as long, and he is good batsman.

 

[SherbertLemon]

We're announcing the team at the toss. What a strange way of doing things.

 

[The 747]

We're announcing the team at the toss. What a strange way of doing things.

Radical idea

 

[LukeParkerno1]

But he bowls pace!

Generous.

I actually rate Stonis with the bat though.

 

[ROOTA#6]

We're announcing the team at the toss. What a strange way of doing things.

It's only coz they have no bloody idea what team they want to pick