Changes for Brisbane

[King Elvis]

I don't think performances against a specific team over a year ago are relevant, at all.

Unless you're playing a specific structure to exploit the other sides weaknesses, where you pick the best available places to fit that structure, then I think it's irrelevant.

The form of both of them, in recent times, has been crap. Throw into the fact that both are underdone, and it boggles the mind as to why both are automatic selections.

Have you seen something this year in the lead up to this game that the coaching staff have not that warrants an almost all out attack on their selection?

I saw it cost us a grand final birth last year, and I was hoping that such a severe missed opportunity would've been enough to hammer home the lesson - unfortunately, this weeks selection makes it seem like that isn't the case.

 

[scoota10]

Johncock was far from our worst...

Can't think of any good reason to drop him for front-runner Callinan

Sorry Thommo51...... 2 out of 4 aint bad

 

[Elite Crow]

It's not a case of "he once ......", this was last year, the last time the two teams met.

Have you seen the players in training? Have you been there for the fitness work? Have you seen something this year in the lead up to this game that the coaching staff have not that warrants an almost all out attack on their selection? Are you better placed than the selection panel to make these decisions. ....... or is it that <insert favourite fringe player> missed out?

How many posters ever come back after slamming a selection issue and say "I was wrong"?


Should we lose, it won't be a selection issue that loses the game. It will be the broader issues we faced last year. The issues of finishing off a team once we get a lead and maintaining intestity over 4 quarters?

I'm guessing you've followed footy for awhile. What's the history like of playing players in the As who haven't played footy for an extended period? If you need a reminder, Pets played one half of footy before last week and had 5 disposals. Coaches and selection committee don't get it right all of the time, they sometimes take risks that don't pay off. Just like playing an injured Petrenko in the preliminary final.

 

[Mattrox]

I'm guessing you've followed footy for awhile. What's the history like of playing players in the As who haven't played footy for an extended period? If you need a reminder, Pets played one half of footy before last week and had 5 disposals. Coaches and selection committee don't get it right all of the time, they sometimes take risks that don't pay off. Just like playing an injured Petrenko in the preliminary final.

I agree that selection can be incorrect, and it is definitely worth discussing concerns. But too often sweeping generalisations have been made, in other words we are guessing that Callinan will not perform based on a few suppositions.

And we can't fit everyone in the team we think "deserves" a game. I don't particularly get why Johncock got dropped, and think Petrenko might be skating on thin ice. At the same time, a reactionary selection decision does not instill confidence in the playing group, and our playing group are very much confidence players.

They also need to get a hard edge to the way they play. I don't think yo-yoing people in and out of the team will develop the hard edge that we crave. Backing them in and forcing them to perform when required is more likely to get the result. And if the players are not up to it, then hard questions need to be asked at the selection table.

As it stands, we are going into our second game. Goal kicking was poor last game, Callinan can kick goals. Tackling was poor last game, and despite Petrenko not being as consistent as we like, he tackles. I am sure that over the course of the year, other players will get their chance too, especially if Petrenko or Callinan don't perform.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I love Nutter as a footballer. He's clever and damn skillful. BUT he's just not up to it at AFL level. .

Wow, so our second leading goalkicker from last year isnt up to AFL footy? You're a harsh judge.

 

[Slippery Pete]

After his abysmal finals series he should be a depth player, not an automatic inclusion.

Darren Jarman would have been out on his arse after Hawthorn's '91 finals series if you were coach.

 

[Slippery Pete]

[USER=102979][USER=102979]Slippery Pete[/USER][/USER] you are dead to me.

I thought those posts would get me carded.

 

[Slippery Pete]

What about playing underdone players? Is that a concern?

It's purely a judgement call, one a coach is entitled to make. When did some posters on here get all precious about established players coming straight back into the 22?

There's only one thing worse than a selection panel who gets it wrong, and that's a selection panel who doesn't make judgement calls.

 

[Elite Crow]

It's purely a judgement call, one a coach is entitled to make. When did some posters on here get all precious about established players coming straight back into the 22?

There's only one thing worse than a selection panel who gets it wrong, and that's a selection panel who doesn't make judgement calls.

Unless they have bad judgement. Not saying Sando has but picking an injured Petrenko for the prelim was a bad one

 

[Slippery Pete]

Unless they have bad judgement. Not saying Sando has but picking an injured Petrenko for the prelim was a bad one

As was mentioned earlier in the thread, Callinan is the type of player than can have an influence with a handful of touches. Especially in slippery conditions. You don't need 3 weeks at Centrals for that.

 

[Allefgib]

I thought those posts would get me carded.

I considered it.

Then Vader said he agreed with you - that REALLY put me in a quandry.

I choose to act like our midfield coaching team vs North Melbourne in 2011...

 

[Elite Crow]

As was mentioned earlier in the thread, Callinan is the type of player than can have an influence with a handful of touches. Especially in slippery conditions. You don't need 3 weeks at Centrals for that.

Can we really afford two small forwards with a handful of touches? We tried that in last years finals series and it didn't work

 

[Slippery Pete]

Can we really afford two small forwards with a handful of touches? We tried that in last years finals series and it didn't work

Petrenko is a whole other thread.

 

[Schulzycrow]

Hate to sound like a broken LP, but surely if Pets stinks it up again this week he has to be on the chopping block??

 

[Schulzycrow]

Raines goes to Danger then Thommo needs to extract the digit and get hot like he usually does against the Lions. Then its mad Vossy's problem

 

[footy4ever]

what does lynch have to do seriously to get a game?

I saw Lynch's game in the SANFL, it was exceptional, however, I think the SANFL is where he belongs.

 

[Paladin]

Can we really afford two small forwards with a handful of touches? We tried that in last years finals series and it didn't work

Callinan kicks goals. If we go with Stiffy and Petrenko where do our goals come from. I think its as simple as that.

Petrenko gets a gig over stiffy for his pressure etc. Thats Sando's call and Pup needs a good game which im sure he will bring.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Hate to sound like a broken LP, but surely if Pets stinks it up again this week he has to be on the chopping block??

If he looks like he is trying hard then his gold pass remains

 

[FAITH]

I saw Lynch's game in the SANFL, it was exceptional, however, I think the SANFL is where he belongs.

I dont believe that, he deserves a proper opportunity.

 

[BACCS]

Side note, having a crack at the Adelaide Board on the Brisbane Board isn't cool. We've got genuine reasons to question this selection, your contribution has been to tell us off and roll your eyes.

Yeah, in your opinion you have genuine reasons, when in actual fact people are just pissed about a club favourite getting dropped. I love Stiffy as well, but I would rather the better pure forward in Callinan. It's just tough luck for Stiffy, he is no longer an automatic selection, so I don't know why people think he should be treated like one.

 

[Elite Crow]

Yeah, in your opinion you have genuine reasons, when in actual fact people are just pissed about a club favourite getting dropped. I love Stiffy as well, but I would rather the better pure forward in Callinan. It's just tough luck for Stiffy, he is no longer an automatic selection, so I don't know why people think he should be treated like one.

So you are telling me what I think now, could you be more condescending?

I'm pissed because we've kept an underdone under performing forward and added another underdone forward at the expense of a player who I believe offers a lot to the side.

 

[Damp Squarie]

Unless they have bad judgement. Not saying Sando has but picking an injured Petrenko for the prelim was a bad one

Not that his injury was the cause of his Frees Against brainfades more poor technique
I think Bickley was talking about him re: lucky to be playing this week.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Yeah, in your opinion you have genuine reasons, when in actual fact people are just pissed about a club favourite getting dropped. I love Stiffy as well, but I would rather the better pure forward in Callinan. It's just tough luck for Stiffy, he is no longer an automatic selection, so I don't know why people think he should be treated like one.

Thats fair too because Stiffy has always been loose, but he's had the pace over that 20 mtrs to bridge the gap .......well sadly that pace has somewhat gone bt he's still highly skilled and you can't beat an experienced head

That said IMO Sando has been talking up the fact its likely to rain .........Callinan may be seen as more effective in the rain rather than stiffy who is a bit more a mark/kick player in Porps mould

I know posters have said other players can play Callinans role ...but really crumbing is instinctive and i really don't think we have a crumbing option with exception of MAYBE Tambling ?

 

[Damp Squarie]

Geez I hope Nutter kicks a bag and a few posters as well pun not intended

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So you are telling me what I think now, could you be more condescending?

I'm pissed because we've kept an underdone under performing forward and added another underdone forward at the expense of a player who I believe offers a lot to the side.

I it was taken to a vote i think Pets would get the thumbs up over Stiffy ....because he adds to the side what we sadly lacked last week ....Pressure

And i said during the week that despite all the contrary opinions ...Sando is thinking the same way and see's the value Pets brings to the side