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[jakefooty23]

Disrespectful of players. They are all better than any non-AFL listed players. Hence "spuds" is a stupid statement to describe three Fremantle players. Worse is the description of Suban as an oxygen thief, which implies that he should be dead.

Ie it's not his opinion that is trollish, but the way he expresses it.

You can't call Me a troll for thinking that Dawson and suban are spuds. They are spuds, dawson had 4 disposals in a whole game of football on the weekend. It doesn't matter what position you play if you get 1 disposal a quarter then to me you are a spud. I may have overreacted by calling Barlow a spud but by the way he is playing he is one. Don't even get me started on suban.

 

[salim malik]

Disrespectful of players. They are all better than any non-AFL listed players. Hence "spuds" is a stupid statement to describe three Fremantle players. Worse is the description of Suban as an oxygen thief, which implies that he should be dead.

Ie it's not his opinion that is trollish, but the way he expresses it.

They might be a lot of things but one thing they are that the poster and his mate aint and thats playing AFL and getting paid big bucks to do it. Something all those on here can only dream about.

 

[Clems Knee]

Who cares? It's a forum for people to voice their opinions and I think he was just voicing his displeasure at those players being selected. Oxygen thief probably wasn't the word to describe him, But I can guarantee you plenty of people think Dawson and Suban are spuds and it doesn't make him a "troll" just because you don't like what he wrote.

And I was voicing my displeasure at a person who has an inability to express himself without being offensive.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

They might be a lot of things but one thing they are that the poster and his mate aint and thats playing AFL and getting paid big bucks to do it. Something all those on here can only dream about.

Good on them. They certainly aren't earning it.

 

[StingBitten]

You can't call Me a troll for thinking that Dawson and suban are spuds. They are spuds, dawson had 4 disposals in a whole game of football on the weekend. It doesn't matter what position you play if you get 1 disposal a quarter then to me you are a spud. I may have overreacted by calling Barlow a spud but by the way he is playing he is one. Don't even get me started on suban.

Your spud is a spud.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Your spud is a spud.

Troll.

 

[jakefooty23]

And I was voicing my displeasure at a person who has an inability to express himself without being offensive.

Okay okay, if I knew there was a nick Suban fan boy on this thread I wouldn't have offended him.

 

[salim malik]

Okay okay, if I knew there was a nick Suban fan boy on this thread I wouldn't have offended him.

Its OK ,I'm sure your mate Masten liked your post.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

And I was voicing my displeasure at a person who has an inability to express himself without being offensive.

You have a problem with him refering to them as spuds but I bet you would throw the boots in and label Priddis a spud, even though he is a better player than all 3.

 

[salim malik]

You have a problem with him refering to them as spuds but I bet you would throw the boots in and label Priddis a spud, even though he is a better player than all 3.

There is a difference if you hadn't noticed ,its the Freo board and who cares if Priddis is a spud or not. Take it up on the WC board.

 

[Clems Knee]

You can't call Me a troll for thinking that Dawson and suban are spuds. They are spuds, dawson had 4 disposals in a whole game of football on the weekend. It doesn't matter what position you play if you get 1 disposal a quarter then to me you are a spud. I may have overreacted by calling Barlow a spud but by the way he is playing he is one. Don't even get me started on suban.

So where were you last week, when the only player to stand up for the team was Dawson? He was the only player not to spud it up. One week later " spud, delist."
Put it this way. You are more of a troll than the players you mentioned are spuds.

 

[Clems Knee]

You have a problem with him refering to them as spuds but I bet you would throw the boots in and label Priddis a spud, even though he is a better player than all 3.

Is Priddis playing for Freo?

 

[Moist Biscuit]

So because they play for Freo they aren't spuds? What a stupid way of thinking.

 

[salim malik]

So because they play for Freo they aren't spuds? What a stupid way of thinking.

Granted some aren't champions but they're ours and give to the best of their ability. For sure some will get the tap on the shoulder but why be disrespectful.
Anybody who manages to make an AFL list is hardly a spud.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

I dunno. My buddy has been called worst than spud. Just saying

 

[salim malik]

I dunno. My buddy has been called worst than spud. Just saying

To slow but never called a spud surely.

 

[meima]

I dunno. My buddy has been called worst than spud. Just saying

Hum kar ling, CI Bai or bugimak?

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Hum kar ling, CI Bai or bugimak?

I hope not. Those are pretty bad

 

[wayToGo_]

For the derby, I think more so than changing the personnel, we need to make sure we are playing our players in the right positions. Sutcliffe needs to play in defence and not on a wing - he was very accountable last year and I also read today he had the second best kick rating of a general defender after Birchall in 2015. Alex Pearce is a lock and will be useful as West Coast will stack their forward line with talls at stages (Kennedy, McGovern, Darling, Lycett/Naitanui). Johnson, Dawson, Spurr and Ibbo are our best defenders and should keep their spots. Johnson, Ibbo and Sutcliffe should be responsible for transitioning the ball out of defence effectively. Random stat: Ibbo launched six more scores from defensive 50 than any other Docker last year - he had a massive impact on games and we need him to get back to that form.

To be competitive against West Coast I think our midfield is the key though. Fyfe, Mundy, Neale and Barlow should all be playing most of their time in the middle imo. I think we've possibly been too focussed on attacking from stoppages and need to set up more defensively, and use our bigger bodies to win the contested ball first instead of trying to make clean burst clearances out of the middle every time (clearance differential is what will win us games!). We also need our best outside players lining up on the wing and not at half back (eg Hill). D.Pearce, Sheridan and Weller should also be made to be accountable to their respective outside opponents by applying constant pressure when we don't have the ball. In a nutshell, we need our midfield to get back to what it does best - contested football. General play is the place to be far more attacking, not stoppages.

I hope we stick with a smaller zippy forward line again (Walters, Langdon, Ballas, Weller), plus Pav, Fyfe (when not in the middle), Mayne (although if he struggles again a drop to WAFL might be the mental break he needs), and Alex Pearce (when swinging). Some argue Tabs is too good for WAFL but I think it is/will help his confidence - so still a couple more games there for him imo. Croz and Yarran need to fix whatever is holding them back, to be ready for selection in coming rounds as well. Some people seem to think you need x many talls to be potent scorers but the Dogs proved that wrong in round 1 against us, with just Boyd, a below average KPF @ 200cm, and Stringer, arguably the league's best medium forward atm @ 192cm. The rest are all under 185cm I think. The key to an effective small forward line working though is pressure. If all our small forwards are harassing the opposition on the rebound, it causes turnovers resulting in more scoring opportunities and impacts the effectiveness of the opposition getting the ball out (giving our defenders a decent chance at the other end - something that hasn't happened in the first two rounds). Won't work if only one or two are doing it though.

Wouldn't mind seeing Tucker debut but not sure who comes out for him. I'd probably give Clancee, Suban etc one more round to find some form.

 

[Allikat]

To slow but never called a spud surely.

Oceanliner, but not a spud

 

[Silversurfer]

Suban out, Barlow out, Dawson out. We can't afford having these spuds in our team. Tucker, silvagni and mzungu in. Mzungu might not be much better then any of them but I'd still much prefer him over that oxygen thief suban.

Is that you masto?

 

[meima]

To slow but never called a spud surely.

Good upper body but never spud.

 

[mike91]

So thats all you've got? Good now run along im done with you...

Sweet

 

[StingBitten]

So because they play for Freo they aren't spuds? What a stupid way of thinking.

40,000 people pay for tickets to see these spuds, these spuds earn 6 figure salaries, these spuds are better than 99% of all players of the most popular sport I'm Australia.

Are they up to Fremantle playing 22 standard? Maybe not - but they didn't cause the ****ing Irish potato famine either.

 

[Righteo]

Stop the squabbling thanks. thread is turning to shite.