Changes For Melbourne

[Wallace]

Ins:
Griffin - A definite for mine, Jamar's in top form, but I'd really like to see us stretch him by going with the Maric/Griffin combo. This also gives Griffin a small reprieve to see whether he really wants it.
Knights - As much as its hurting us, I think we've got to bring these guys up to match fitness asap and the best way to do that is get them in the side. We could also do with some added firepower up forward.
Stevens - No brainer really at this stage, has had a great preseason and we could really use his versatility

Outs:
Sellar - Hamstring. Shame, was really starting to look good there in that first quarter, showed some great closing speed and did some good work round the ground.
Young - Last in, first out. Also doesn't quite look ready, ideally you'd give him another game, but with Knights and Stevo to come back in, he misses out. Will be better for the run though.
Petrenko - Bit rough on the young fella, but we're slowly starting to regain our A-side, so unfortunately he misses out due to the like for like principle(ie Knights for Petrenko). The other option would be Cook and quite frankly, I don't want either to go, but its of these two. He gets a reprieve if Goody* doesn't pull up in time.

This would have us lining up like:

B: Stevens - Rutten - Doughty
HB: Goodwin* - Bock - Reilly
C: Mackay - Dangerfield - Douglas
HF: Knights - Walker - McLeod
F: Porplyzia - Tippett - Edwards
1R: Maric - Thompson - Vince
I: Griffin, Burton, Hentschel, Cook
E: Petrenko*, Young, van Berlo

For mine we give van Berlo another week's rest (perhaps as a travelling emergency, ie Maric against Freo) he's the ultimate professional and fit as a fiddle, so I'm not too worried about him missing match practice, I'd just really like to see him get his body right. I also don't think another 4 changes would do us any good and I think that the 3 I've mentioned are definites(as much as I hate to see it regarding Griff and his performance against Freo).

Amazing. Drop Petrenko? Out of all of our players he has shown the most impressive endeavor and attitude in the first two games. We are a side that is struggling in winning its own ball and Petrenko is one of few Adelaide players that is showing a consistent intensity atm. Hugely surprised if he was dropped.

I would have thought he would be in front of Cook, Douglas, Young and Hentschell just to name a few.

Anyways, assuming Goody gets up, my changes would be

OUT - Sellar (inj - unlucky as he is starting to live up to potential), Hentschell (cant get a kick up forward), Douglas (struggles to find the ball and when he does you would rather he didnt have it).

IN - McKernan (prob not ready but has a go, do not want Griffin back in), Knights, Stevens.

What will likely happen

OUT - Sellar, Young (I actually thought he was ok for a 1st gamer, good in one on ones, but may have been a little lost)

IN - Knights, Stevens (to play part time ruckman/back)

 

[Vader]

Those calling for Jaensch and/or Henderson to be promoted are almost certain to be disappointed - for this week at least.

We have 3 best 22 players who are all likely to return, plus Griffin. I can't see us making a 5th unforced change.

IN (definites): Knights, Stevens
IN (probables): VB, Griffin

OUT (definites): Sellar (inj), Young
OUT (probables): Goodwin (inj), Cook

VB, Knights & Stevens are all automatic selections and WILL play if fit. VB won't come back via the SANFL, having played in R1 and been selected for R2 (only to drop out at the last minute).

McKernan's MMC form was so bad that he hasn't been considered for either of the H&A games so far. I don't see him jumping ahead of Griffin based on his SANFL performances thus far this year.

If Goodwin passes his fitness test, then Hentschel would be next cab off the rank as far as omissions are concerned.

There is not a snowball's chance in Hades of Reilly being dropped and I doubt Douglas would be under the pump either after last week's effort. That said, I would expect his training sessions this week to have a heavy emphasis on kicking skills. Petrenko won't drop out until Johncock returns from injury.

 

[Mismatched]

Having watched the game again, those calling for Hentschel's head better not get their hopes up. His first half wasn't great, but he improved immensly in the second, showing a heap of toe(a lot more than I thought he had) and perfect skills under pressure, something we're seriously lacking at the moment.

Re. Petrenko, probably Cook goes first, but Petrenko would have to be able to move up into the midfield a bit more.

Oh and Burton won't be going anywhere, he was always going to have an off week, he needed to blow out the cobwebs, probably should have been in the SANFL, but he'll be a lot better for the run and should be back to his unpredictable best against Melbourne.

 

[coup de grace]

Bring in phil davis!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Truck Rutten]

Apparently Stevens didn't train yesterday which is a bit of a concern given it's been more than a week since he was concussed. I don't think we can count on him as a definite in just yet.

 

[amer]

Yeah I forgot to mention - watched Hentschel closely on the weekend and he moved well at times. Better than he had anyway.

 

[WALL-e]

If Stevens doesn't play Davis does.

 

[Mismatched]

If Stevens doesn't play Davis does.

I wouldn't count on it, we seemed pretty happy with Rutten, Bock and Hentschel as a tall KPD's, we're reasonably set there and whilst I'd love to see him brought in to play forward, I think Craigy would be more than happy to go with just Tippett and Walker as a key forwards, using Porps, Knights, Burton and maybe a resting ruckman as extra marking targets.

 

[CrowHop]

Then Griffin should not be anywhere near the side. The fire doesn't burn in his gut and it never will, he is a liability and this is not going to change. McKernan should not be overlooked just because his SANFL form isn't absolutely top notch. He brings genuine talent and is an aggressive, competitive footballer. If we're serious about moving this list forward we need to be ruthless in our treatment of those who don't want it enough. Select the players who will give us a return on investment down the track.

Petrenko needs to be kept in the side as well. Competitive, talented, a hard nut, the polar opposite of a downhill skier. Gets his hands dirty when the going is tough. It's guys like him who will see us improve. I'm not at all comfortable seeing him omitted when there are middle of the road footballers getting games week in, week out because they're experienced "enough", solid "enough". The time to make tough choices is now, or we're going to waste the opportunity our current list presents.

Quality post - I agree.

 

[craig crowing]

I also agree with Amer post in using Mckernan and keeping Petrenko as they both have a upside to their game and agree tough choices have to be made and even players like Doughty -- Edwardes , and Burton positions need to challenged.
I think Hentschell can add something down back for us but not up to it or needed up forward.
Whilst agree with Vader probably not going to happen think ideal game to add Jaensch to team and give Young another go as playing a very young team in Melbourne.
If Cook stays in team need to show that has more than just speed If wants to be a AFL player .
Be really Pi----d if Burton plays out of goal square area where should have tandem of Walker lead and the Kurt.
Surely this match will see the real Tippett

 

[Wood_Duck]

I also agree with Amer post in using Mckernan and keeping Petrenko as they both have a upside to their game and agree tough choices have to be made and even players like Doughty -- Edwardes , and Burton positions need to challenged.
I think Hentschell can add something down back for us but not up to it or needed up forward.
Whilst agree with Vader probably not going to happen think ideal game to add Jaensch to team and give Young another go as playing a very young team in Melbourne.
If Cook stays in team need to show that has more than just speed If wants to be a AFL player .
Be really Pi----d if Burton plays out of goal square area where should have tandem of Walker lead and the Kurt.
Surely this match will see the real Tippett

Good Post. Agree, I dont think Burton adds a whole lot to our forward line at the moment. I think he is the reason that Walker struggles to get into the game and to an extent I would say that he aslo has the same effect on Porps.

 

[beartoo]

Good Post. Agree, I dont think Burton adds a whole lot to our forward line at the moment. I think he is the reason that Walker struggles to get into the game and to an extent I would say that he aslo has the same effect on Porps.

Can you elaborate on that? How does Burton stop Walker or Porps getting a kick in a game of footy?

 

[craig crowing]

Can you elaborate on that? How does Burton stop Walker or Porps getting a kick in a game of footy?

So do you think Burton is a team player and doesnt charge all over the place. When he is not sitting behind you adding a opponent getting ready to take a MOY attempt.
Did you not see final where just crowded up our forward area and would not lead up the ground when we desperately needed after Knights went off .
We need Walker leading out from square and we want Porps one on one where he will beat anybody

 

[beartoo]

Ah, now you're making sense. Burton is and has been ever since he started playing in our forward line the entire problem. Delist immediately.
LOL .
Burton is easily in our best 22 and a valuable contributor. He will continue to be for some time yet.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Can you elaborate on that? How does Burton stop Walker or Porps getting a kick in a game of footy?

There are only so many spaces in a forward line in which a forward can lead. With Burton playing deep in our forward line he takes up a space that normally Walker would lead into. I am quite happy for Burton to play further up the ground but while he is in our forward 50 our forward line looks crowded and disorganised. We are a much better side when we have an open forward line and Tippet in particular has space to lead to and one opponent to beat. Burton dragging opponents into that space is not effective.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Ah, now you're making sense. Burton is and has been ever since he started playing in our forward line the entire problem. Delist immediately.
LOL .
Burton is easily in our best 22 and a valuable contributor. He will continue to be for some time yet.

A fully fit and able Burton is. A partly injured underdone Burton is a bloody nuisance.

 

[Paladin]

I watched the game again and after a quiet first half Hentschel played very well in defence in the second half. Moved well with very good disposal and his opponent didn't touch it. Keep him in the back pocket (with an opponent!) no chance of being dropped IMO.

lol @ Burton stopping walker getting the ball. I thought burton was much better than porps. Will kick 4 this wkend.

In: Stevens, VB, Knights

Out Sellar, Young, Cook

 

[Wood_Duck]

I watched the game again and after a quiet first half Hentschel played very well in defence in the second half. Moved well with very good disposal and his opponent didn't touch it. Keep him in the back pocket (with an opponent!) no chance of being dropped IMO.

lol @ Burton stopping walker getting the ball. I thought burton was much better than porps. Will kick 4 this wkend.

In: Stevens, VB, Knights

Out Sellar, Young, Cook

Not what was said, clearly the point went well above your head.

 

[Paladin]

Good Post. Agree, I dont think Burton adds a whole lot to our forward line at the moment. I think he is the reason that Walker struggles to get into the game and to an extent I would say that he aslo has the same effect on Porps.

Rubbish Walker had many chances to impose himself on the game v Sydney. He failed. Not once did i see Burton take his space, push him out or blow raspberries at him. To blame him for walker & porps struggling is laughable.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Rubbish Walker had many chances to impose himself on the game v Sydney. He failed. Not once did i see Burton take his space, push him out or blow raspberries at him. To blame him for walker & porps struggling is laughable.

You dint see Burton give Walker a Rasberry? What game were you watching?

I dont think that our forward line structure works very well with Burton (moreso when he is underdone), Tippet, Walker and Porplyzia all trying to lead and find space. For this to have a snowflakes chance in hell of working these 4 players would need to be able to read each others minds. They are not complimentary to each other. All four of them need to get their posessions one out on a lead. All four of them cant do it in the same forward line. IMO it is an unworkable structure. I am not surprised Walker gets lost and cant get a kick.

Disagree if you like but leave your smug self assuredness to yourself.

 

[Good Win]

It's starting to get much harder to name a team - good sign

My changes would be:
Out - Sellar (inj), Young, Cook, Hentschel
In - McKernan, Davis/Stevens, Van Berlo, Knights

The forwardline is starting to get back to full strength which means one of Douglas or Hentschel will probably miss, i'm hoping it's the latter. Can't see Craig dropping Burton. Also means Dangerfield will (hopefully) play more in the midfield.

McKernan >>>>>>>> Griffin. Big strong and aggressive and actually has a future as an Adelaide Crow. Can relieve Maric in the ruck as well as play forward.

Davis to play if Stevens is still sore.

B: Doughty - Rutten - Davis
HB: Goodwin - Bock - McLeod
C: Mackay - Dangerfield - Edwards
HF: Knights - Walker - Burton
F: Petrenko - Tippett - Porplyzia
R: Maric - Thompson - Vince
I: McKernan - Reilly - Van Berlo - Douglas

 

[cmndstab]

Having watched the game again, those calling for Hentschel's head better not get their hopes up. His first half wasn't great, but he improved immensly in the second, showing a heap of toe(a lot more than I thought he had) and perfect skills under pressure, something we're seriously lacking at the moment.

I think people were swayed by the commentary team going out of their way to dump a bucket over him for one single incident (which wasn't entirely his fault anyway), and then followed it up by saying that he "knows nothing about playing in defence", and then when he proved them wrong time and time again acted like he'd only just finally got it all together after a career of being a poor defender. It was abominable commentary and entirely unfair to Hentschel who was at the very least servicable on Sunday. He'll be at the MCG this week.

 

[Crow-mo]

Not what was said, clearly the point went well above your head.

no, it just wasn't a very good point.

Burton had nothing to do with Walker's game. He made a number of leads that were ignored, we can (and have) debated why - but its got nothing to do with Burton.

 

[dplggr47]

OUT: Sellar (inj), Goodwin (inj), Young, Cook,
IN: McKernan, van Berlo (if fit), Stevens, Knights

...if Goodwin is injured and van Berlo not ready to come back then Cook back in.
...the Crows may choose Griffin over McKernan, or just not bring in another ruck, but then, who else is there who could come in... everyone else is injured or not AFL ready. i guess they could bring in another small like Armstrong or upgrade one of the rookies, but gee, we're seriously suffering from these injuries and lack of depth.

 

[WALL-e]

Like it or most likely not, Griffin will be given another chance before McKernan comes in.