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I don't mind people suggesting Kreuzer get dropped for a rest. But please stop bagging him. Have a look at some of this year's rising talent - McKinley drafted '05, Ibbotson drafted '05, Tippet drafted '06 - Kreuzer drafted '07! And he's a ruckman. Give the kid a chance, you know it takes time. Leunberger not even getting a game. And where is Hansen? Did anyone see Hawkins tonight - was absoultely terrible. I don't think know is the right time for another rest - too close to the week off for the dream team game.

And can we get rid of KarmaGeddon off this board. Or anyone silly enough like Waitee to argue taht O'hailipin should go. Geez, I feel like I'm on Bay 13.
 
He's a shit tackler, how many Free's for does he get for the team from tackling?

He's only got one string on his bow, FFS everybody stop gloryfying it or we'll never climb the ladder.

are you switched on?

Bentick average of 7.3 tackles per game ranks him number 1 in the AFL...

we cant rely on Judd and Murphy to win every centre clearance and get all the hard ball in the middle.

You must be one who looks for the glorified seagull finishing players such as Stevo and Houlihan... recognise the bloke at the bottome of the pack who makes these guys look so good!
 

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Out: Russell, Wiggins, Grigg, Bower (inj), Kreuzer (rest)
In: Waite, Bannister, Pfieffer, Edwards, Benjamin

Actually, tonight i observed that we severely lack speed. Armfield's addition was brilliant, and depending on how we he goes tomorrow, perhaps Benjamin would be a good chance for next week against the Power.
 
Out: Russell (omitted), Kreuzer (rest), Bower (inj), Wiggins (potentially inj, looked very very sore)

In: Austin, Pfieffer, Edwards, Waite

Don't think we need to go too tall next week against Port. Hampson and Cloke will do in the ruck. Kreuzer will benefit with some time in the VFL, listening to the radio he didnt play much more than half the game. Russell... well yeah the least said about him the better.

Austin can come in and replace bower... give the kid and crack! Michelle Pfieffer will add some toughness to a wing, hopefully they give him the same game time they have been giving Russell! Edwards leads well and presents over and over. I thought he was a little stiff this week to be dropped. Fish is just having a bad trot and an extra target up there in Edwards might relieve him of some pressure to perform.
 
are you for real mate? Bentck has been great since he has back

Mate, I agree he's tried his heart out and done a good job, but every other midfield in the league will laugh at us if we keep putting him in the middle. Too many weaknesses, not anywhere near enough penetration.

We need to risk putting some raw talent in the middle and let them learn to get the tackle counts.
 
judging from the old woman and her daughter in front of me judd should be dropped too. Bloody hell nothing pisses me off more than people who consistently bash their own team.. especially judd
 
o hailpin has got to go guys...for those of you who cant see it..open your eyes..he isnt up to afl standard, his clangers are disgusting...waite will come in for him this week

He smashed Hawkins tonight, and he did a pretty good job on Pavlich last week. He's nowhere near being omitted from the team. I must have been watching a different game to you over the past 2 weeks.
 
Out: Russell (omitted), Kreuzer (rest), Bower (inj), Wiggins (potentially inj, looked very very sore)

In: Austin, Pfieffer, Edwards, Waite

Don't think we need to go too tall next week against Port. Hampson and Cloke will do in the ruck. Kreuzer will benefit with some time in the VFL, listening to the radio he didnt play much more than half the game. Russell... well yeah the least said about him the better.

Austin can come in and replace bower... give the kid and crack! Michelle Pfieffer will add some toughness to a wing, hopefully they give him the same game time they have been giving Russell! Edwards leads well and presents over and over. I thought he was a little stiff this week to be dropped. Fish is just having a bad trot and an extra target up there in Edwards might relieve him of some pressure to perform.

Nice edit ;)
 
He smashed Hawkins tonight, and he did a pretty good job on Pavlich last week. He's nowhere near being omitted from the team. I must have been watching a different game to you over the past 2 weeks.

CHB is his best position imo. We need to leave him there. He loves kicking goals, and he can still snag a couple occasionally from CHB whilst thrashing the crap out of his direct opponent.

He's a raw talent with plenty of upside if we can just let him settle at CHB!
 
Mate, I agree he's tried his heart out and done a good job, but every other midfield in the league will laugh at us if we keep putting him in the middle. Too many weaknesses, not anywhere near enough penetration.

Did he KB you in a bar or something? :rolleyes:

He penetrates enough packs to ensure he will keep his spot in the team. He wins enough hardball, lays enough tackles, wins enough clearances to keep his spot. Additionally he is averaging 21 stats a game along with his 7.3 tackles... like I said watch the battler at the bottom of the pack not the glory queen!
 

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He's a shit tackler, how many Free's for does he get for the team from tackling?

He's only got one string on his bow, FFS everybody stop gloryfying it or we'll never climb the ladder.

It's not the amount of free's he gets but the pressure he applies...

Are you awake when you watch???
 
Out: Russell (omitted), Kreuzer (rest), Bower (inj), Wiggins (potentially inj, looked very very sore)

In: Austin, Pfieffer, Edwards, Waite

Don't think we need to go too tall next week against Port. Hampson and Cloke will do in the ruck. Kreuzer will benefit with some time in the VFL, listening to the radio he didnt play much more than half the game. Russell... well yeah the least said about him the better.

Austin can come in and replace bower... give the kid and crack! Michelle Pfieffer will add some toughness to a wing, hopefully they give him the same game time they have been giving Russell! Edwards leads well and presents over and over. I thought he was a little stiff this week to be dropped. Fish is just having a bad trot and an extra target up there in Edwards might relieve him of some pressure to perform.

Plenty of blokes need to be droped before Kruezer. ie: Bentick - He's like the annoying little guy that busts up the conversation with the girl but never gets a root.
 
Out:
Russell
Fisher
Hampson
Bower (broken)
Murphy
Grigg
Wiggins

Murphy has one bag game and you want to drop him?

Grigg actually played really well tonight. Was very composed and did alright across HB and HF. Will retain his spot. Fish will stay, Hampson is a ruckman, he did well tonight, rucked well and won plenty of hitouts. Cosidering the size diff against Ottens he actually matched up quite well and I thought he dominated Blake.
 

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o hailpin is crucial to our backline. By playing he takes the biggest forward and allows waite to play a looser back running style of game.
 
Plenty of blokes need to be droped before Kruezer. ie: Bentick - He's like the annoying little guy that busts up the conversation with the girl but never gets a root.

Kreuzer is 18, he is in his first year of football and virtually comes up against men week in week out because of the nature of his most played position being the ruck.... What is the point of denting the kids confidence with only a 50-60% of game time like he got tonight. Send him to the 2's so he can build up some confidence and find his feet a little more. Let him get some constant feel for the sherrin... we want him dominating like Cox by next year not under achieving like Josh Fraser!
 
I will probably get crucified for saying this but

Out: Bower (inj), Hampson, Fisher
In: Waite, Edwards, Pfeiffer

Fish can do with a run in the Ants. Hasn't done anything this year. I suggested we use him as a lead up CHF option to try and work him into the game and provide a better target than nothing but unfortunately he is struggling with confidence at the minute.
bentick to slow sorry great work ethic but the game has changed wiggins cannot be a part of where we hope to be in the next 2 seasons but chris judd you bloody champion showed the way. replay his game tonight to our young players to show them how great players win he ball under heavy tags and keep getting up . n stevens watch the great man win the hard ball .may i say the young man with famous no 4 will be a superstar of the afl when our coaching staff finally say bryce dont worry about anyone else just go out and play? gun. .murph forgive everyone has a bad day sometime
 
Mate, I agree he's tried his heart out and done a good job, but every other midfield in the league will laugh at us if we keep putting him in the middle. Too many weaknesses, not anywhere near enough penetration.

We need to risk putting some raw talent in the middle and let them learn to get the tackle counts.

He is not just a tackler - didn't you see last weeks game, he was able to rove to Sandilands and got heaps of clearances - you don't teach blokes how to get first touch at bounces, they have it or they don't. He is principally a handballer - feeds our seagulls (as CG puts it) but would have been a little disappointed in his kicking tonight
 

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