Cordy has played over 100 AFL games that’s making it
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Until Keath and Bruce are ready to return, the only interest I have in selection now is whether we'll get to see West, Khamis or Raak. It's otherwise just a rotating cast that doesn't really impact our fortunes.
Yep and played very well in 2016 final series, especially the GF.Cordy has played over 100 AFL games that’s making it
I think we will see Raak
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Melbourne lost Lever and Petty at the beginning of the season and were able to bring in Tomlinson and Joel Smith. Brown goes out Wiedeman comes in. They play 2 rucks.
Brisbane have Jackson Payne who can’t get a game for example and plenty of other examples around the league.
All of these types are depth and would very likely get a game for us.
We have literally nothing developing in the VFl apart from a traditional ruck type in Sweet who mainly gets “development” opportunities as a key forward.
It’s negligent.
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lachy
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As a KPD as the discussion is actually about or as a player??Cordy has played over 100 AFL games that’s making it
Cordy is not nor ever has been a good KPD. He has been asked to play that position as we have not recruited nor developed players in that position since 2017 to the extent we have Keath as a quality KPD ironically recruited as an intercepting KPD and we rely on fill ins down there.
Cordy is a more than competent 3rd tall
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Correct. You only have X number of list places. Filling that list with over 50% of the same type of player is not list management.
It is why I rate Bev's coaching higher than many in here with the extraordinary results he has managed, but am unsure on the level of control he has had that we ended up with a list bereft of KPP's Rucks, back ups and developing
They also have Mitch Brown, Daw as ready made back ups with Van Rooyen developing
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We had had over 5 years to build this list not one or two
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While I do agree...the inverse of this is also true. If we lose Dale, we bring in Croz/Williams etc. If we lose Bont, we can still play Macrae/Dunkley/Treloar/BSmith/Libba inside and we can bring in any number of smaller guys who aren't great but can fill a role and contribute. Melbourne can't address those roles anywhere near as well if they lose Salem or Oliver. We have been absolutely smashed in our weakest area; Melbourne have had injuries in their strongest. There aren't many teams in the league (maybe even just one) who could bring in three depth KPPs and not lose much.
The bigger problem for me is less the stocks and more our lack of system that enables mediocre players to contribute. Frankly, Weideman is kind of trash and JSmith isn't great either - but they are solid role players in a functional system. Our system is entirely dysfunctional which shows up the weaknesses of our subs unlike what happened in 2016. I loved Hamling, but there's no way Hamling/Roberts were that much better than Keath/Gardner/Cordy - we simply had a system that worked and supported them and enabled them to play to their strengths.
If you think you can do better send in your resume then lol
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They’ve literally lost Salem. Bowey has come in and looked great.
The classic i've lost the argument but don't want to admit it response
Salem has been out they had Bowey/Hibberd Oliver goes down they literally recruited Dunstan for that. They have shown us and the league how to build a balanced structured list
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Point taken - I do think it's worth considering though that by virtue of our academy/FS luck we haven't had the opportunity to supplement with high draft picks.
Hibberd and Dunstan are the definition of mediocre role players that are capable with a functional system.
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That is true Dannnnnn but in reality our system has been built on not having quality first and then depth and then development in the KPP, Ruck area's.
Bev has manipulated a system that works well with the type of player he has to work with and for short periods of 4 to 6 weeks this system has actually stood up very well under pressure.
Evidence that it is not long term sustainable is we have never finished top 4. Evidence that is can work for 4 to 6 week blocks is 2 GF's and finals in 3 other of Bev's 7 completed seasons.
My concern is what evidence is there that we can turn this around? There is player responsibility whoever plays to work fully to the system we have with the list we have.
Melts are pointless on this weeks selections, as they are most times really, as those coming in will be no better or worse than those going out or be left out. We are dependant on our system working, which is high pressure creating many forward opportunities that we must massively improve not only our entries but also as blind Freddy could see, our accuracy.
Not at all I pay attention and respect Lachy posts as for you I really don’t pay much attention to your whining
Hibbered was an AA player and Dunstan polled 11 brownlow votes last year. They're not world beaters but are quality depth
If you're paying attention to him then you're paying attention to me we are making the same point
I come on here and have a quick read most of the time I scroll by your post
Oh no some random person scrolls past my internet posts most of the time how will I ever recover
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I can see your point and mostly agree, but I don't wholly agree that the system was built with this lack of personnel in mind. We won a premiership playing defence-first football with a list composition not dissimilar to what we have presently, but since then we have panicked and somehow come to a point where we are making a considered effort to not man the mark because...because?????
Our scoring woes are problematic but the congestion and lack of cohesion we see every time the ball is in the vicinity of the F50 suggests more than just a lack of talent. Our KPD stocks are really concerning but there is absolutely no way they have a chance to function without up-field pressure...but unless Bev somehow masterminds personal teleportation, it is simply not realistic to expect midfielders to offer anything defensively when they are pressing forward as aggressively as we want them to. And finally, Bev can say "yeah basic skill errors really hurt us, if we cut down on them we'll be alright" all he wants but this is a consistent issue - at what point do we concede that our gameplan does not fit the fact that our team is not great by foot?
As for your last paragraph though - I wholeheartedly agree.
Nice sook but then again I wouldn’t accept anything less as you do it most weeks
Where was the sook? You were shown to be shortsighted and went with the classic "you go do better" line then followed up by "I don't read your posts" think we can all see who the one who can't formulate and argument here champNice sook but then again I wouldn’t accept anything less as you do it most weeks
