Prediction Changes for Round 2

[Eaglemaniac]

Hutchings would not be playing the same role.

He offers the ability to run out a game, to cover defensively (territory) and deliver inside 50 better than Hutchings or Partington.

If the role was an inside mid I'd take Hutchings every single time, but it wasn't.

Hutch played the high half forward role and wing last year and was fine. He can also play a lock down role either forward or in the midfield. Masten had one good kick inside 50, and bugger all possessions on top of that. Hutch would get a lot more of the footy then Masto because he's not afraid to hit a contest and has the body size to impact a contest, so you're balancing one guy who has one good kick and a goal over another guy who offers multiple role options and can kick goals when required. Dont forget Masto has had his fair share of sprayed kicks lately as well.
Id take the guy who wins the footy for us on multiple occasions over a guy who has one decent kick, a lucky goal and then gets pushed off the contest constantly.

 

[Gugs9]

Just an observation on Redden, I had a close eye on him all game at the ground one as i drafted him in my fantasy league but also because i believe he is a big key to our midfield being competitive this year.

My view is that he was nowhere near as poor as some people have suggested. Simmo left him on a wing far too long in the first half, not the position he should be playing.

In the second half, he was an animal around the ball, in particular the last quarter where his tackling and pressure was relentless.

I think it was the first time in a long time I can remember leaving a loss feeling somewhat content. Our midfield centre square core of Nic Nat Shuey Sheed Redden and Yeo actually fills me with a lot of confidence this year. Yeo’s game last night gives me confidence that he now has the maturity to play on ball with pinch hits back and forward. And once Ah Chee is back i think our midfield will improve even more. Until then I think we were an inside mid short and should play hutchings over one of our extra defenders.

I also believe Duggan must be treated as a permanent HB along with Jetta. We have enough inside ball winners now that we should play him where he was at his best last year, a position he was drafted for too

 

[RookiePick]

The thing that infuriated me about that play is that he stood stationary waiting for the ball to come to him, took possession then tried to break the oncoming tacklers flat footed. If he'd attacked the ball and met the tackler with momentum even a smaller guy like Masten can either break the tackle or at least disrupt it enough to get off an effective disposal.

Our guys just refuse to run at the footy. The Swans hit so many loose balls at pace by comparison and it is so much more effective.

 

[lewigie]

We all know Masten can kick when he has time and space and no opponent within 20 metres of him. That kick to Naitanui was good but bloody hell I'd be disappointed if noone in our team could kick that

 

[lewigie]

Our guys just refuse to run at the footy. The Swans hit so many loose balls at pace by comparison and it is so much more effective.

We need whoever is their midfield coach. Their run and spread from a contest is unbelievable. They just know where each other are in every situation and they can just fling the ball around to runners and break lines. Crazy to watch and hard to defend

 

[Pottering]

Outs: Nelson Schofield
Ins: Cole Hutchings

Fast deck and smaller dogs forward line means we don’t need a third tall. Keep duggan at half back and bring in an extra midfielder in hutchings.

Masten keeps his wing/HFF until one of ah chee or rioli is back

Agree with Nelson out and Duggan to the back line. Duggan plays way better confronting the ball, is lost in pack situations and his kicking under pressure is poor.

 

[jesterwester]

No changes. No need to make any changes I don’t think.

We had a good 2nd half last week- which is to be expected especially with the younger forward line. Personally, I’d back in the same 22 to get the job done away.

I’d give Cole another week at home.

 

[wce4premiership]

You've basically just described a runner who's allowed one inside 50 entry a game.

You understand the complexities of football beyond tackles and contested possessions?

His disposal was fine last night, he's a better user than Hutchings in space, a better runner, slightly quicker, a better link up player and was trying to play that doomed High half forward role that all of: Partington, Mutimer, Duggan, Yeo, Nelson, Lecras, Redden and Karpany have struggled to do over the years.

I'm not saying he's best 22, he is fringe, just like Hutchings. If they are fighting for an outside running role to suit a particular team, or to release Gaff in another area than I'd take Masten.

If they want a tagger or another body to rotate inside the centre circle I'd take Hutchings every day of the week.

 

[Godfather32]

Out: Masten, Nelson, Schofield
In: Cole, Hutchings, Brander

 

[Eagleboy68]

Just an observation on Redden, I had a close eye on him all game at the ground one as i drafted him in my fantasy league but also because i believe he is a big key to our midfield being competitive this year.

My view is that he was nowhere near as poor as some people have suggested. Simmo left him on a wing far too long in the first half, not the position he should be playing.

In the second half, he was an animal around the ball, in particular the last quarter where his tackling and pressure was relentless.

I think it was the first time in a long time I can remember leaving a loss feeling somewhat content. Our midfield centre square core of Nic Nat Shuey Sheed Redden and Yeo actually fills me with a lot of confidence this year. Yeo’s game last night gives me confidence that he now has the maturity to play on ball with pinch hits back and forward. And once Ah Chee is back i think our midfield will improve even more. Until then I think we were an inside mid short and should play hutchings over one of our extra defenders.

I also believe Duggan must be treated as a permanent HB along with Jetta. We have enough inside ball winners now that we should play him where he was at his best last year, a position he was drafted for too

Simpson.

Trades for a replacement inside bull for Priddis. Plays him on a wing when Priddis retires.

Yep he's a smart one that cookie.

 

[FKASC]

Agree with Nelson out and Duggan to the back line. Duggan plays way better confronting the ball, is lost in pack situations and his kicking under pressure is poor.

Yeah he seems a very natural half back for mine.

Changing the subject, Yeo’s strength and evasion impressed me in the clinches at times. Enough to tease whether he can actually become an effective on-baller.

Maybe he does just need more time in the middle. No one else in our side except NN has the ability to match it physically with other inside bulls. He’s not the cleverest player but physically he has what it takes.

I think Duggan stays back until he masters that role and then moves into the middle when he’s 24 or so, and Yeo should be persisted with onball for one more year given it’s a bit of a rebuild year

 

[Winky]

Great, but what do we do about the forward structure? How do we cover for JK? We had a lot of supply but lacked forward presence; McInnes maybe.

Think I’d prefer M Allen

 

[ziad]

Simpson.

Trades for a replacement inside bull for Priddis. Plays him on a wing when Priddis retires.

Yep he's a smart one that cookie.

you should get very fit constantly jumping to conclusions

 

[Matera92]

You understand the complexities of football beyond tackles and contested possessions?

His disposal was fine last night, he's a better user than Hutchings in space, a better runner, slightly quicker, a better link up player and was trying to play that doomed High half forward role that all of: Partington, Mutimer, Duggan, Yeo, Nelson, Lecras, Redden and Karpany have struggled to do over the years.

I'm not saying he's best 22, he is fringe, just like Hutchings. If they are fighting for an outside running role to suit a particular team, or to release Gaff in another area than I'd take Masten.

If they want a tagger or another body to rotate inside the centre circle I'd take Hutchings every day of the week.

Apparently better than you.

Do you realise that the teams that have won the last two cups, did so on the back of tackles and contested possession?

Disposal is more than just the odd bullet kick into Fwd 50 by the way. He's not penetrating, his vision is lacking and he's a horrifically bad handballer, likes to give it to someone standing 1m away who's flat footed.

He's not a good link up player because he will generally, stop, prop, turn back into traffic before realising he's killed momentum and then look for an easy outlet. He simply can't make decisions quick enough for the modern game and he isn't athletic enough to compensate for it. There's no reason for him to be in the side, none whatsoever.

 

[bUCKET__]

you should get very fit constantly jumping to conclusions

Incorrect. Intellectual exercises do not necessarily help you get fit. You need to rely on physical exercises for this. There is not actually any physical jumping involved in coming to a conclusion. You can do one without the other. Your post implies there is no distinction, so I am informing you that there is.

If you yourself do propel your body upwards to help yourself reach a conclusion, please know that this is not required for most people. But that I am glad that you have found a way to combine both physical and intellectual exercises to enjoy them simultaneously.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

W

Just an observation on Redden, I had a close eye on him all game at the ground one as i drafted him in my fantasy league but also because i believe he is a big key to our midfield being competitive this year.

My view is that he was nowhere near as poor as some people have suggested. Simmo left him on a wing far too long in the first half, not the position he should be playing.

In the second half, he was an animal around the ball, in particular the last quarter where his tackling and pressure was relentless.

I think it was the first time in a long time I can remember leaving a loss feeling somewhat content. Our midfield centre square core of Nic Nat Shuey Sheed Redden and Yeo actually fills me with a lot of confidence this year. Yeo’s game last night gives me confidence that he now has the maturity to play on ball with pinch hits back and forward. And once Ah Chee is back i think our midfield will improve even more. Until then I think we were an inside mid short and should play hutchings over one of our extra defenders.

I also believe Duggan must be treated as a permanent HB along with Jetta. We have enough inside ball winners now that we should play him where he was at his best last year, a position he was drafted for too

What annoyed me about Redden was his lack of leg speed, his opponent ran of created space and overlap as redden couldn't stay close to him.
Set up a least three goals for swans because of it

 

[Godfather32]

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What annoyed me about Redden was his lack of leg speed, his opponent ran of created space and overlap as redden couldn't stay close to him.
Set up a least three goals for swans because of it

That sounds familiar...

 

[Gugs9]

W



What annoyed me about Redden was his lack of leg speed, his opponent ran of created space and overlap as redden couldn't stay close to him.
Set up a least three goals for swans because of it

Yeah he’s obviously not the quickest of mids but I think he will excel this year with quicker mids around him like yeo, shuey, ah chee and even venables at times. I just hope simmo gives him enough time in the centre square to allow him to do what he does best, tackle like a maniac and distribute in close

 

[Gugs9]

Yeah he seems a very natural half back for mine.

Changing the subject, Yeo’s strength and evasion impressed me in the clinches at times. Enough to tease whether he can actually become an effective on-baller.

Maybe he does just need more time in the middle. No one else in our side except NN has the ability to match it physically with other inside bulls. He’s not the cleverest player but physically he has what it takes.

I think Duggan stays back until he masters that role and then moves into the middle when he’s 24 or so, and Yeo should be persisted with onball for one more year given it’s a bit of a rebuild year

Exactly my thoughts in my post before. I have no doubt yeo has what it takes to be an A Grade mid if he continues to show what he did Sunday, the fact he can pinch hit forward and back is a bonus. I think simmo needs to continue to play him as an 80/10/10 type midfielder for the rest of the year, if he becomes and A grader like shuey all of a sudden our midfield has 3 A graders with Nic Nat as well and we look a hell of a lot better.

I also agree duggan should be given another year or two as a permanent Half Back Flanker. Nothing wrong with him not being a midfield answer for us, last year showed he has the ability to become an elite half backman in the future and I think we should continue to pursue that avenue

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Brander at CHF would straighten us up immediately.

We lacked structure without a genuine tall forward.

Waterman showed his class with that goal under the pressure on a tough angle.

Hope that we give Brander a run if his WAFL form warrants it, we need a player of his height in the forward line in JK's absence (the ruckmen don't really count since each of them are only there sporadically). I feel like we already decided on Waterman as the replacement for JK a long time ago, and we haven't really given Brander and Mallen a genuine chance at that spot. Perhaps we could have even considered trialling Brander at FF and Waterman or Mallen as a 3rd tall. I know that Brander is in his 1st season and key position players have a reputation somewhat as slow developers, but as our 1st pick, I thought that he would've been given more of an opportunity. Unless there are flaws that the selectors think that he has, apart from being too young/inexperienced as a key position player.

 

[ChampRevesby]

Pretty obvious changes if you ask me:
Out: Masten, Nelson
In: Hutch, Cole

 

[Boohemian]

I'm all for Rioli building up form and fitness in the WAFL. These little injuries he's picking up are a little concerning, however I don't doubt that we'll see him playing seniors before too long.

For mine, Karpany really should be playing that HFF role ahead of Masten. Where's he at? Haven't heard much about him over the off season.

 

[FKASC]

Pretty obvious changes if you ask me:
Out: Masten, Nelson
In: Hutch, Cole

Plus
Out: Schofield
In: Anoos

 

[Mico89]

I wouldn't change the team to much, obviously would like JK back if fit. Not a masten fan but Sunday night but he played better than Redo.

 

[sey666]

W



What annoyed me about Redden was his lack of leg speed, his opponent ran of created space and overlap as redden couldn't stay close to him.
Set up a least three goals for swans because of it

Redden was second last for meters gained (70m from 18 disposals). In contrast Yeo, Sheed, Hurn, Shuey and Jetta all gained over or close to 500m.