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Give West a chance he's played a hand full of games .....perfect opportunity for him to experience a big game...playing out of position get him in the middle provides grunt which we sorely lack

But its a boys club as we know.....oh I see they dropped Harry Edwards as well .wtf

No wonder there is rumblings amongst the player group ....Simmo just picks his favourites and its sh*te
It seems the most midfield time West got was in his debut game (which was hardly) and not only was his best game but also the last time we had a full strength midfield.
 
We’ve had ten or eleven guys we’ve been trying to squeeze into the back seven all year, and a shortage of forwards.

That’d be a big factor in why they haven’t committed a heap of time to turning Petch into a backman.
Cause he can’t defend he’s shown that by having lass than 2 tackles a game . I think he could play off half back so give him a go . It won’t hurt
 

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Yep. Just like Steven Armstrong, Vardy will live in our hearts forever as the hero-spud who stood tall in the last quarter of a premiership. But it's long past time to move on.
Yep, I agree that it's time to move on from Vardy.

But you're seriously underselling his GF.
14 disposals, 14 hitouts, 6 tackles and a crucial goal.
 
Cause he can’t defend he’s shown that by having lass than 2 tackles a game . I think he could play off half back so give him a go . It won’t hurt
You’re missing my point. It’d take time for him to learn the position, and he’d be way back in the queue. In the meantime we’ve struggled to fill the forward spots all year.
 

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How many quality games has he played ? Has he had more input that other small forwards ?? Stuff all tackles handballs over top for goals I want to see him off half back to run and learn but coaches have no faith in him playing there
Gotta ask - is West Coast your second team but support Lions? Glad you're participating on our board either way, just curious.
 
Gotta ask - is West Coast your second team but support Lions? Glad you're participating on our board either way, just curious.

I'm less curious and more if you're going to come onto our board and shit on our players perhaps you should change your team.
 

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Vardy attended 24 ruck contests for 10 hitouts, 3 to advantage, 0 clearances

For comparison, Jackson also attended 24 for 6 hitouts and 3 to advantage and 2 clearances. Jackson also had 21 disposals and 6 marks.

As another comparison Gov won 9 hitouts from 15 ruck contests in the Saints game 3 weeks ago, only 1 to advantage though and 2 clearances.

I find it tough to argue that it's worth wasting a spot in the 22 for what we're gaining from Vardys ruckwork.
Thanks for the info Joshy.

I think we also need to offset the to advantage figures with a to disadvantage figure count. If someone gains 3 to advantage and also does 4 directly to the opposition advantage then the figure should be minus 1. That's worse than 1 to advantage and all the rest neither way.
 
Do You think West is skilled?
He's a butcher.
You lost that point so you’ve changed the subject of the argument. I am not prepared to describe West as a ‘ball butcher’ as you so eloquently refer to him. I would say he is adjusting to the pace of the higher level. He brings an energy that most of our other young midfielders don’t have. He has played 4 games.
 
You lost that point so you’ve changed the subject of the argument. I am not prepared to describe West as a ‘ball butcher’ as you so eloquently refer to him. I would say he is adjusting to the pace of the higher level. He brings an energy that most of our other young midfielders don’t have. He has played 4 games.

You've missed the point.
I was responding to a poster who asked if West was pretty much as skilled as Redden.
He's not.

I Like his energy and effort but he is terribly skilled.
I've seen enough in 4 games to see his lack of skill.level.
 
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