Preview Changes for Round 22 v Fremantle @ Optus Stadium. Sunday 3:10pm AWST.

[BrotherDodge]

Apart from retaining vardy.

Look up vardy in the oxford dictionary...dead wood.

Yep. Just like Steven Armstrong, Vardy will live in our hearts forever as the hero-spud who stood tall in the last quarter of a premiership. But it's long past time to move on.

 

[THE A5]

Give West a chance he's played a hand full of games .....perfect opportunity for him to experience a big game...playing out of position get him in the middle provides grunt which we sorely lack

But its a boys club as we know.....oh I see they dropped Harry Edwards as well .wtf

No wonder there is rumblings amongst the player group ....Simmo just picks his favourites and its sh*te

It seems the most midfield time West got was in his debut game (which was hardly) and not only was his best game but also the last time we had a full strength midfield.

 

[just ask!!!]

Still find it amazing that you think a player who had 3 kicks and gained 40 metres getting dropped is unbelievable.

Langdon isn't AFL quality.
That's why GWS let him go.

How many metres gained for the other bloke in 8 touches

 

[just ask!!!]

We’ve had ten or eleven guys we’ve been trying to squeeze into the back seven all year, and a shortage of forwards.

That’d be a big factor in why they haven’t committed a heap of time to turning Petch into a backman.

Cause he can’t defend he’s shown that by having lass than 2 tackles a game . I think he could play off half back so give him a go . It won’t hurt

 

[Tugga27]

Yep. Just like Steven Armstrong, Vardy will live in our hearts forever as the hero-spud who stood tall in the last quarter of a premiership. But it's long past time to move on.

Yep, I agree that it's time to move on from Vardy.

But you're seriously underselling his GF.
14 disposals, 14 hitouts, 6 tackles and a crucial goal.

 

[KERRPOW]

Vardy is playing as a decoy ruckman. Its his farewell game too

We shouldnt be handing out farewell games when our seasons on the line.

 

[Tugga27]

How many metres gained for the other bloke in 8 touches

I'm not comparing him to Petch.
You're trying to defend a player getting dropped who was woeful.

He's a spud.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Cause he can’t defend he’s shown that by having lass than 2 tackles a game . I think he could play off half back so give him a go . It won’t hurt

You’re missing my point. It’d take time for him to learn the position, and he’d be way back in the queue. In the meantime we’ve struggled to fill the forward spots all year.

 

[Nigellathechook]

Good to see the two Lukes in…a nod to the future?

 

[THE A5]

I'd take Petch over Langdon any day of the week. One is 22 and hits the scoreboard way more often and the other is a 26 year old forward with 6 goals in 16 games and has a marginally better tackle count. Petch hasn't been anything great but he has way more scope for improvement.

 

[THE A5]

Good to see the two Lukes in…a nod to the future?

always good to have Shuey back

 

[Bacchus]

Yep, he's that much less skilled than Redden.
He's a butcher.

Edit: Redden has 30 possessions last week.

Redden has also played 200+ games, and a 12 year+ career, and plays midfield, would expect a bigger output from him.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Can’t remember the last time Redden had the skill to slot a set shot from the boundary.

 

[Tugga27]

Redden has also played 200+ games, and a 12 year+ career, and plays midfield, would expect a bigger output from him.

The poster was comparing last week's game between West and Redden

 

[Bacchus]

The poster was comparing last week's game between West and Redden

Doesn’t their respective performances have something to do with their respective experience? I would think it did.

 

[Bender_]

Doesn’t their respective performances have something to do with their respective experience? I would think it did.

Do you mean 'credits in the bank'?

 

[Tugga27]

Doesn’t their respective performances have something to do with their respective experience? I would think it did.

Do You think West is skilled?
He's a butcher.

 

[Rowan18]

How many quality games has he played ? Has he had more input that other small forwards ?? Stuff all tackles handballs over top for goals I want to see him off half back to run and learn but coaches have no faith in him playing there

Gotta ask - is West Coast your second team but support Lions? Glad you're participating on our board either way, just curious.

 

[Bender_]

Gotta ask - is West Coast your second team but support Lions? Glad you're participating on our board either way, just curious.

I'm less curious and more if you're going to come onto our board and shit on our players perhaps you should change your team.

 

[MrWoollie]

Vardy attended 24 ruck contests for 10 hitouts, 3 to advantage, 0 clearances

For comparison, Jackson also attended 24 for 6 hitouts and 3 to advantage and 2 clearances. Jackson also had 21 disposals and 6 marks.

As another comparison Gov won 9 hitouts from 15 ruck contests in the Saints game 3 weeks ago, only 1 to advantage though and 2 clearances.

I find it tough to argue that it's worth wasting a spot in the 22 for what we're gaining from Vardys ruckwork.

Thanks for the info Joshy.

I think we also need to offset the to advantage figures with a to disadvantage figure count. If someone gains 3 to advantage and also does 4 directly to the opposition advantage then the figure should be minus 1. That's worse than 1 to advantage and all the rest neither way.

 

[Bacchus]

Do You think West is skilled?
He's a butcher.

You lost that point so you’ve changed the subject of the argument. I am not prepared to describe West as a ‘ball butcher’ as you so eloquently refer to him. I would say he is adjusting to the pace of the higher level. He brings an energy that most of our other young midfielders don’t have. He has played 4 games.

 

[MrWoollie]

Langdon isn't AFL quality.
That's why GWS let him go.

Ahh, so that's why GWS let Dylan Shiel go the Essendon. Not AFL quality.
And Devon Smith. Not AFL quality.

 

[Tugga27]

You lost that point so you’ve changed the subject of the argument. I am not prepared to describe West as a ‘ball butcher’ as you so eloquently refer to him. I would say he is adjusting to the pace of the higher level. He brings an energy that most of our other young midfielders don’t have. He has played 4 games.

You've missed the point.
I was responding to a poster who asked if West was pretty much as skilled as Redden.
He's not.

I Like his energy and effort but he is terribly skilled.
I've seen enough in 4 games to see his lack of skill.level.

 

[just ask!!!]

I'm less curious and more if you're going to come onto our board and sh*t on our players perhaps you should change your team.

Yep my second side I have a few people I follow very closely at west coast

 

[Tugga27]

Ahh, so that's why GWS let Dylan Shiel go the Essendon. Not AFL quality.
And Devon Smith. Not AFL quality.

Are You serious?

Shiel went for 2 first rounders.
Devon Smith went for pick 11 and a 3rd rounder.
Langdon was a 3rd rounder.

FMD.