Changes for Round 22?

[TheLeftFist8]

Ive confirmed my ins and outs, I dont have room for Vince at this stage.

Well at least you've got the guts to stick with your convictions but i suggest you think twice about calling others stupid if you leave Vince out of your best 22

 

[jenny61_99]

In: Vince
Out: Dangerfield

No Porps for me for obvious reasons. Any news on Bock - he seemed in some discomfort during last weeks game.

 

[WALL-e]

In: Vince
Out: Dangerfield

No Porps for me for obvious reasons. Any news on Bock - he seemed in some discomfort during last weeks game.

The discomfort was the massive wang being shoved into his nether regions by our midfield who let the Saints enter the 50 with ease. Defenders worst nightmare.

In: Vince, Porplyzia, Tippett

Out: Dangerfield, Massie, and an unlucky player.

 

[ruscy002]

IF he is available yes, but you have justify pulling another player out and look atyour opposition, Bulldogs have a small defence so maybe Tippet is a better option to come in rather than Vince. As other people have posted Gill and Stevens are make shift forwards at best, how can we justify dropping Stevens when he is currently playing out of position????

Playing out of position? Then maybe the question is, how can we justify playing him if we don’t have a position to play him in? I’ve been a Stevens fan for years, but the love affair with his poly filler abilities is admittedly wearing thin on me. Our backline looks good and he hasn’t had to do any where near as much work in there this year as he has in previous years.

As a forward, he’s holding out Tippett and Walker on experience alone—both have superior talent, which is unquestionable despite its rawness. Right or wrong, it shits me because Stevens is not going to be a perennial member of our forward line for the next 10 years as we hope Tippett and Walker will be.

Probably too late in the season to warrant such a radical shift in philosophy and upsetting of team balance, but god help us if Stevens is a permanent fixture in our forward line next year. Hope he steps into the Bassett role and we groom Kite as a Massie type half back.

 

[ruscy002]

The discomfort was the massive wang being shoved into his nether regions by our midfield who let the Saints enter the 50 with ease. Defenders worst nightmare.

In: Vince, Porplyzia, Tippett

Out: Dangerfield, Massie, and an unlucky player.

And Massie wouldn’t be unlucky himself??? You’re kidding. Look at the type of players we have to match up on in the doggies forward line this week…Hahn, Welsh, Murphy, Johnson. Shit, Massie is safer that Rutten, Maric, Goodwin, Edwards and McLeod this week.

 

[WALL-e]

And Massie wouldn’t be unlucky himself??? You’re kidding. Look at the type of players we have to match up on in the doggies forward line this week…Hahn, Welsh, Murphy, Johnson. Shit, Massie is safer that Rutten, Maric, Goodwin, Edwards and McLeod this week.

Massie would be unlucky yeh.

We need Tippett in as many times last week we went to kick long and had Noooooooooooooooooooothing.

Vince and Porps when fit are straight in....

Who's out?

 

[ruscy002]

Refer to this post RE Stevens:

Playing out of position? Then maybe the question is, how can we justify playing him if we don’t have a position to play him in? I’ve been a Stevens fan for years, but the love affair with his poly filler abilities is admittedly wearing thin on me. Our backline looks good and he hasn’t had to do any where near as much work in there this year as he has in previous years.

As a forward, he’s holding out Tippett and Walker on experience alone—both have superior talent, which is unquestionable despite its rawness. Right or wrong, it shits me because Stevens is not going to be a perennial member of our forward line for the next 10 years as we hope Tippett and Walker will be.

Probably too late in the season to warrant such a radical shift in philosophy and upsetting of team balance, but god help us if Stevens is a permanent fixture in our forward line next year. Hope he steps into the Bassett role and we groom Kite as a Massie type half back.

If you want Tippett in, then Stevens is the logical out. Reasons above, as are the reasons why it might not happen that way. For mine, Tippett is a better option than Stevens, and while the Freddy Bassett farewell tour rolls on, Stevens probably doesn’t have a place in the team.

 

[magtrev]

imho

In: Porps, Vince
Out: Dangerfield, Johncock

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Nah ....Vince and Tippett in for round 22 to settle the side ....and you can quote me on those

Wed, Aug 27, 08
Crows in SANFL: Round 21
Tue, Aug 26, 08
Adelaide has recalled Jason Porplyzia, Bernie Vince and Kurt Tippett for Saturday’s crucial round 22 clash with the Western Bulldogs at AAMI Stadium.
They have replaced Brent Reilly, Brad Moran and Patrick Dangerfield.

Reilly and Moran have been listed as emergencies, along with Bryce Campbell.

Porplyzia has not played since suffering brain bruising against Carlton on August 2 while Vince has missed two weeks with a hamstring strain. First-year forward/ruckman Tippett has not played for the Crows since round 17.

Saturday’s clash with the Bulldogs is one of several matches in the last round which will decide the shape of the finals, with Adelaide set to finish anywhere between fourth and eighth.

The top three teams - Geelong, Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs – are secure. But the rest of the places in the top eight will be sorted this weekend and will not be finalised until the last game of the minor round between St Kilda and Essendon late on Sunday afternoon.

Too easy really ..... all too predictable

Rest Tippett and bring him back for last game of the year .......blind freddy could read that call

 

[achancely]

Too easy really ..... all too predictable

Rest Tippett and bring him back for last game of the year .......blind freddy could read that call

In other words "Thank God my guess was right, now I'm arrogantly going to claim football expertise"

 

[jenny61_99]

Too easy really ..... all too predictable

Rest Tippett and bring him back for last game of the year .......blind freddy could read that call

Did blind freddy also know that Griffin is now out for the rest of the season due to a hip injury? My guess is that this is the main reason Tippett has been brought back this week and Moran rested.... we need all of them firing for next week.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Did blind freddy also know that Griffin is now out for the rest of the season due to a hip injury? My guess is that this is the main reason Tippett has been brought back this week and Moran rested.... we need all of them firing for next week.

Whats Moran got to be rested for?!

FFS he missed half the bloody season through injury. He is showing no signs of being in need of a rest. It was a decision that was made on its merits, not because Griffin is out.

 

[Eastern Crow]

Whats Moran got to be rested for?!

FFS he missed half the bloody season through injury. He is showing no signs of being in need of a rest. It was a decision that was made on its merits, not because Griffin is out.

exactly my comments on the Griffin thread

 

[Stiffy_18]

exactly my comments on the Griffin thread

If anything, you would think Moran would need a strong hitout rather than a rest at this stage of the season. I think there would be more merit in suggesting that he ws dropped so he could play a full game with Westies rather than half a game with the Crows. I personally don't buy that line of thinking either, but IMHO it would have more merit than suggesting he is being rested.

 

[jenny61_99]

Whats Moran got to be rested for?!

FFS he missed half the bloody season through injury. He is showing no signs of being in need of a rest. It was a decision that was made on its merits, not because Griffin is out.

Ok, here's my logic. I know it could be wrong, but it's my first thought. Tippy has played ONE game in the last 4 or so weeks. Moran has played, and played pretty well - certainly not deserving of being dropped. Griffin is now out of the equation and the selection committee know they have to have a plan B should plan A go horribly wrong. As it is we have Maric..... and that's pretty much it. Losing Griffin now makes Moran AND Tippett all that much more important. Got to get Tippy back in THIS week to get him back up to speed. My guess is this is not the last we will see of Moran this year.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Ok, here's my logic. I know it could be wrong, but it's my first thought. Tippy has played ONE game in the last 4 or so weeks. Moran has played, and played pretty well - certainly not deserving of being dropped. Griffin is now out of the equation and the selection committee know they have to have a plan B should plan A go horribly wrong. As it is we have Maric..... and that's pretty much it. Losing Griffin now makes Moran AND Tippett all that much more important. Got to get Tippy back in THIS week to get him back up to speed. My guess is this is not the last we will see of Moran this year.

Look, I wouldn't be surprised if Moran, Tippett and Maric play together in the finals but Moran was not dropped because he is being rested. It was just a horses for courses decision IMHO.

If anything, Moran needs more game time, not a rest!

 

[jenny61_99]

Look, I wouldn't be surprised if Moran, Tippett and Maric play together in the finals but Moran was not dropped because he is being rested. It was just a horses for courses decision IMHO.

If anything, Moran needs more game time, not a rest!

But Tippy needs it MORE because he's had just one (SANFL) game in the last 4-5 weeks. Can't go into this game with all three of them - we'd be too tall and too slow. So perhaps "rest" is the wrong word, but I definitely think this news about Griffin has a very big bearing on Tippy playing this week and Moran missing out.

 

[Stiffy_18]

But Tippy needs it MORE because he's had just one (SANFL) game in the last 4-5 weeks. Can't go into this game with all three of them - we'd be too tall and too slow. So perhaps "rest" is the wrong word, but I definitely think this news about Griffin has a very big bearing on Tippy playing this week and Moran missing out.

2 SANFL games and considering how our forward line functioned against St. Kilda, Tippett was a certainty to come in regardless.

 

[jenny61_99]

2 SANFL games and considering how our forward line functioned against St. Kilda, Tippett was a certainty to come in regardless.

And yet the forward line had functioned quite well for the 4 weeks (all wins) before that (while Tippett wasn't playing with us). I don't think he was a certainty - particularly since Porps and Vince were coming back in too.

 

[dplggr47]

Ok, here's my logic. I know it could be wrong, but it's my first thought. Tippy has played ONE game in the last 4 or so weeks. Moran has played, and played pretty well - certainly not deserving of being dropped. Griffin is now out of the equation and the selection committee know they have to have a plan B should plan A go horribly wrong. As it is we have Maric..... and that's pretty much it. Losing Griffin now makes Moran AND Tippett all that much more important. Got to get Tippy back in THIS week to get him back up to speed. My guess is this is not the last we will see of Moran this year.

i think Crows just desperately need a tall strong marking forward. anyway, i'm glad Tippett made it back into the team...i was worried, just like when Mackay was dropped...they play majority of games this year and might miss out on finals if they didn't make their way back into the team. Moran will most likely come back into the team during finals...and have the 3 talls, in ruck, down back and up forward.

 

[Stiffy_18]

And yet the forward line had functioned quite well for the 4 weeks (all wins) before that (while Tippett wasn't playing with us). I don't think he was a certainty - particularly since Porps and Vince were coming back in too.

And the teams we played in those weeks wouldn't know what defensive pressure is if it bit them on the ass

I sometimes wonder if people actually watch the footy. St. Kilda play a much more disciplined games than what our previous opponents did. It was always going to be a dog fight with contested footy and not much of clean ball movement into 50. Thats exactly the sort of footy that you will see in finals and as such, Tippett as the long option was ALWAYS going to come in to settle the side. Do you not understand the differences between different styles of football and the different structures of the side?!

 

[jenny61_99]

And the teams we played in those weeks wouldn't know what defensive pressure is if it bit them on the ass

I sometimes wonder if people actually watch the footy. St. Kilda play a much more disciplined games than what our previous opponents did. It was always going to be a dog fight with contested footy and not much of clean ball movement into 50. Thats exactly the sort of footy that you will see in finals and as such, Tippett as the long option was ALWAYS going to come in to settle the side. Do you not understand the differences between different styles of football and the different structures of the side?!

Geez Stiffy you must be a coach seeing as you know so much. You do know that Tippett is just a kid don't you? You also know they didn't bring him in for the St Kilda game. Surely they've brought him in NOW to give him another run because he may be needed for the finals - and particularly now that we've lost our other rucking option in Griffin. There is no way they left Tippy out of the side for however many weeks (several of those he played NO footy at all) just so they could bring him in the last game of the season and he'd be ready and firing to go and be the saviour of the forward line for the finals. He was dropped because of poor form. If what you say about our oppositions defence being poor "prior" to St Kilda is true, then surely we would have kept him in to get his confidence up? Conversely, if we needed him to experience the defensive pressure from the likes of St Kilda, wouldn't we have picked him last week?

The reason St Kilda were so good last week was because we were so damned poor. Put us next to them when we are there to play and the result would have been different.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Geez Stiffy you must be a coach seeing as you know so much. You do know that Tippett is just a kid don't you? You also know they didn't bring him in for the St Kilda game. Surely they've brought him in NOW to give him another run because he may be needed for the finals - and particularly now that we've lost our other rucking option in Griffin. There is no way they left Tippy out of the side for however many weeks (several of those he played NO footy at all) just so they could bring him in the last game of the season and he'd be ready and firing to go and be the saviour of the forward line for the finals. He was dropped because of poor form. If what you say about our oppositions defence being poor "prior" to St Kilda is true, then surely we would have kept him in to get his confidence up? Conversely, if we needed him to experience the defensive pressure from the likes of St Kilda, wouldn't we have picked him last week?

The reason St Kilda were so good last week was because we were so damned poor. Put us next to them when we are there to play and the result would have been different.

You keep on saying how he hasn't played for a while and he was brought in because of Griffin's injury! I disagree and if you go back and look at our team lists over the period where Tippett didn't play you would find out that he was quite often an emergency in those games. Now if you are not playing in the SANFL but you keep making the emergency list often enough, that suggest that in fact he was being rested.

You are right in saying that he is a kid (hence the reason for resting him) but he is also a kid with a specific set of skills that are very much required by out team. The skills that no other player provides us with other than McGregor who is clearly out of favour.

 

[jackster83]

Geez Stiffy you must be a coach seeing as you know so much. You do know that Tippett is just a kid don't you? You also know they didn't bring him in for the St Kilda game. Surely they've brought him in NOW to give him another run because he may be needed for the finals - and particularly now that we've lost our other rucking option in Griffin. There is no way they left Tippy out of the side for however many weeks (several of those he played NO footy at all) just so they could bring him in the last game of the season and he'd be ready and firing to go and be the saviour of the forward line for the finals. He was dropped because of poor form. If what you say about our oppositions defence being poor "prior" to St Kilda is true, then surely we would have kept him in to get his confidence up? Conversely, if we needed him to experience the defensive pressure from the likes of St Kilda, wouldn't we have picked him last week?

The reason St Kilda were so good last week was because we were so damned poor. Put us next to them when we are there to play and the result would have been different.

Hear hear!
If we play St Kilda in the finals, Tippett must play in the forward line at FF. We saw him do well in the MMC GF as St Kilda have Gram, Goddard, Fisher, Hudgton and Gilbert who make a good back line but they are undersized and the big monster target will expose them (again).