Changes for round 4

[dasler]

Priddis would have to be considered wouldn't he? When was the last time he contributed something to the team?

The knock on him as a junior.. everything he does he does so slowly. Always been a ball magnet, always done nothing with it. I haven't seen much to suggest over the course of his AFL career that anything has changed. Really surprised he was named as out best player today.

And before the long line of commentary to drop others or dismiss my opinion, I watched an inordinate amount of Priddis as a junior.

 

[illegaleagle]

It wont even be a shootout if we go small!

From todays game, only players that were dangerous infront of goals are Lynch, Mckinley, Lecras, Hunter.

Having Kennedy to present around the grounds will not be a flaw b/c we lack speed.

Posters always talk about speed. I want names.

Maybe swift, scott selwood,cockie the problem with us is we lack a quick aboriginal forward like a gartlett, davey, rioli type. Still we cant have too many slow big forwards playing and teams rebound out of our forward line too quickly. This has been a major problem for us for the last year or so sunshine

 

[beatlesmith]

It wont even be a shootout if we go small!

From todays game, only players that were dangerous infront of goals are Lynch, Mckinley, Lecras, Hunter.

Having Kennedy to present around the grounds will not be a flaw b/c we lack speed.

Posters always talk about speed. I want names.

My point is that WB score so highly by getting goals with small players, as they lack a dominant tall forward, much like us.
It is not so much speed as it is run and carry. The bullies don't have many blisteringly quick players, they just use space to their advantage and use lines of running players. They are truely the masters of the counter attack, and they will be able to counter attack too easily if we play too many tall players up forward.

 

[Kerrby04]

My point is that WB score so highly by getting goals with small players, as they lack a dominant tall forward, much like us.
It is not so much speed as it is run and carry. The bullies don't have many blisteringly quick players, they just use space to their advantage and use lines of running players. They are truely the masters of the counter attack, and they will be able to counter attack too easily if we play too many tall players up forward.

Like i said, i have no problem with both selwoods to play a defensive forward.

But then doggies wont need to counter attack if they could run off our players through the corridor.

North have the same concept last wkend by playing tall, only stupidly enough to go through with it in the rain.

We may agree to disagree, im not here to snipe anyone.

 

[Kerrby04]

Maybe swift, scott selwood,cockie the problem with us is we lack a quick aboriginal forward like a gartlett, davey, rioli type. Still we cant have too many slow big forwards playing and teams rebound out of our forward line too quickly. This has been a major problem for us for the last year or so sunshine

Maybe is not an answer.

Your putting a player in a position hes not comfortable in.

What makes you think Swift or Cockie will provide this defensive pressure to stop this rebound.

It will make no difference for Swift/Hunter. Doggies will still rebound like a training drill.

You acknowledge that our midfield doesnt have the footskills and always bomb inside50 (priddis style). If your stretching the doggies defence in the air, we might nab a few.

Tall or Short, once the ball hits the ground it is certain the doggies will rebound. We dont have the forward structure plan like collingwood small forwards.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

My point is that WB score so highly by getting goals with small players, as they lack a dominant tall forward, much like us.
It is not so much speed as it is run and carry. The bullies don't have many blisteringly quick players, they just use space to their advantage and use lines of running players. They are truely the masters of the counter attack, and they will be able to counter attack too easily if we play too many tall players up forward.

I would bring in Kennedy and put Lynch at FF. These two can potentially take there backs to pieces if we get some decent delivery.

 

[Embers]

Defensive pressure in the forward line is overrated, Why not just mark the bloody thing the first time around. Our lack of marks inside 50 was much more of a concern then lack of chasing in there

 

[imright]

I would bring in Kennedy and put Lynch at FF. These two can potentially take there backs to pieces if we get some decent delivery.

Kennedy can also give Cox the chopout in the ruck.

 

[Embers]

Kennedy can also give Cox the chopout in the ruck.

If you believe these boards he can also cure cancer, walk on water and return prositites to virginity

 

[Eastern Rangers]

If you believe these boards he can also cure cancer, walk on water and return prositites to virginity

His a better mark, harder runner, better below his legs and harder at the contest than Hansen. Bring Kennedy in, if he is no better drop them both and play Lynch as CHF.

 

[Embers]

His a better mark, harder runner, better below his legs and harder at the contest than Hansen. Bring Kennedy in, if he is no better drop them both and play Lynch as CHF.

I want him in too but even I can admit its one of the more undeserved call ups in my memory. He doesnt have much to beat I guess.

 

[beatlesmith]

I would bring in Kennedy and put Lynch at FF. These two can potentially take there backs to pieces if we get some decent delivery.

Other way around for me. Lynch played so well last year at CHF, has great work rate and has the long raking kick inside 50. Kennedy has better contested marking, so i would ponk him down in the square and have him do short leads.
Kennedy close to goals, lynch up the ground, lecras leading between them.

 

[Swiftkid]

Other way around for me. Lynch played so well last year at CHF, has great work rate and has the long raking kick inside 50. Kennedy has better contested marking, so i would ponk him down in the square and have him do short leads.
Kennedy close to goals, lynch up the ground, lecras leading between them.

I'd play it the other way round, for mine Kennedy is better on the long leads. He is a pure CHF. Works very hard, consistently on the lead and wears his opponent into the ground.

Lynch should stay at home. One on one he's too strong for the majority of players. I like him being a deterrent leading up into the space behind Kennedy. Would make defenders think twice about falling back into the hole.

And at the very least he'd create a contest. That being said, I still think Brent Staker should be planted at FF and left alone. He's strong, quick of the first 10 steps and has proven himself as a genuine contested marker of the ball. Which other forward can boast that?

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Assuming his knee comes up ok, maybe Mitch Brown should be swung around to the forward line? Glass and Mackenzie are playing well, the the Dogs don't have many tall forwards.

Kennedy hasn't exactly been killing it at the moment.

 

[Swiftkid]

Assuming his knee comes up ok, maybe Mitch Brown should be swung around to the forward line? Glass and Mackenzie are playing well, the the Dogs don't have many tall forwards.

Kennedy hasn't exactly been killing it at the moment.

Brown has been playing in the backline to reduce the stress on his knees. Apparently it's easier to run in straight lines down back. Interesting notion.

If Hansen plays against the Dogs who will be embarrased when Lindsay Gilbee stands next to him, keeps him goaless and has 30 touches himself.

Because thats what normally happens.

 

[mitchzz]

Assuming his knee comes up ok, maybe Mitch Brown should be swung around to the forward line? Glass and Mackenzie are playing well, the the Dogs don't have many tall forwards.

Kennedy hasn't exactly been killing it at the moment.

He wasn't "killing it" when he finally came into our side last year.

 

[beatlesmith]

Assuming his knee comes up ok, maybe Mitch Brown should be swung around to the forward line? Glass and Mackenzie are playing well, the the Dogs don't have many tall forwards.

Kennedy hasn't exactly been killing it at the moment.

It's as if you just copied my post!
Staker is actually a good proposition. Gives us some versatility in that he could be pushed up on to the wing, or go back to mark omeone like rob murphy.
If he had some space up forward, he could be pretty deadly. Emphasis on could, as his inconsistency has bitten me on the arse before.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Games like today certainly show up those that cant handle the pressure.Hansen can play good footy when given space but hes slow and when its tight hes not creative enough.Fletcher embley bye.Its our older bigger players who let us down.Lynch puts his head on his chest and makes the minimum of effort;with his size and skills he should step up and make a statement,but he's content to trot along behind.Coxy seemed overawed and on the backfoot;his disposal was awful.Mckinley was slow and always behind.Lecras seems content to kick a couple and leave it at that,he doesnt chase or tackle.We played off the back foot all day,and appeared to have a defensive mindset from the start.Once the eagles player had spoilt or chased somebody they stopped.2nd effort???? whats that???? Lets look at swift selwood jr schofield.More pace and youthful vigour.If we'd been given a chance at half time to swap fletcher and embley for swift and sellwood would anybody not have taken it????

 

[buddymania]

OUT: Fletcher, Hansen, Davis, Nicoski

IN: Cockie, Kennedy, Swift, Staker

 

[EagleMan87]

OUT: Fletcher, Hansen, Davis, Nicoski

IN: Cockie, Kennedy, Swift, Staker

You'd have to bring Wirra in if Davis goes wouldn't you think?

So you'd drop 2 backmen with no replacement?

I'd bring Wirra in for Davis if anything and leave Nicoski in, his run was actually pretty good- he just didn't have enough support.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

OUT: Fletcher, Hansen, Davis, Nicoski

IN: Cockie, Kennedy, Swift, Staker

Yeah, davies did some horror clangers today, and nickoski is so one dimensional, he really needs to learn to turn onto his right foot.Agree bring staker back but he must play midfield.Give him 5-6 games if he does his usual disappearing act then get rid of him once and for all.

 

[EagleMan87]

Yeah, davies did some horror clangers today, and nickoski is so one dimensional, he really needs to learn to turn onto his right foot.Agree bring staker back but he must play midfield.Give him 5-6 games if he does his usual disappearing act then get rid of him once and for all.

But he's a left footer It's like saying Hurn needs to learn to use his left.

Agree with the Staker comment, this year's probably his last chance.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

But he's a left footer It's like saying Hurn needs to learn to use his left.

Agree with the Staker comment, this year's probably his last chance.

Hurn runs straight and is quite capable of going left.With nickoski the opponent concedes his right side and automatically go to his left.Most players kick with their preferred side but at least have the option of going the other.

 

[EagleMan87]

Hurn runs straight and is quite capable of going left.With nickoski the opponent concedes his right side and automatically go to his left.Most players kick with their preferred side but at least have the option of going the other.

I've never seen Hurn use his left.

But, fair point. I think Nicoski's problem is that he overestimates his own pace. It worked so well for him in 2005/06 that he still tries to break the lines even when he's got no hope.

When he finally catches up with the changes in the game he'll be back up to where he was back then; an absolute gun(fingers crossed).

 

[eaglesnutcase]

I've never seen Hurn use his left.

But, fair point. I think Nicoski's problem is that he overestimates his own pace. It worked so well for him in 2005/06 that he still tries to break the lines even when he's got no hope.

When he finally catches up with the changes in the game he'll be back up to where he was back then; an absolute gun(fingers crossed).

Im just venting or hyperventilating after todays horror story.nikoski wasnt our worst but hes like a lot of our more experienced players; just do your bit and fade into the background and let somebody else do the inspirational things,the hard things,the 2nd and 3rd efforts, the team lifting things.Nobody in this team is willing to step up to the plate and say F###K you im gonna give it my body and soul and die for this team,NOBODY!!!!