Changes for round 6 vs West Coast

[Igloo]

I don't think any of our injured players will be back in. Not worth bringing someone back early to go to Perth.

 

[Cudi]

Apparently Glass was reported last night and has something like 93 carry over points. He would be a huge out and Jones could dominate with his confidence up.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

I don't think any of our injured players will be back in. Not worth bringing someone back early to go to Perth.

Dunno sounds like Griff might have just been sore from the impact. If he's fine to go I can't see them resting him. Maybe its worse than that tho.

 

[LukasTheGreat]

Looking forward to finally seeing the boys in action this year, <3 when the boys come here.

 

[Werewolf]

Looking forward to finally seeing the boys in action this year, <3 when the boys come here.

Yeah, so was I last week! I hope we come to play, don't want another 123!

 

[King Harold]

I agree with the calls for no change. I was disappointed with the games of Tutt and Vez but I think they should be given at least a couple of successive games to show what they have. They do have the pace to be potentially important players on the big ground next week but do need to show soon that they can turn potential into action.

I wasn't as impressed by some here about Austin's game. To me he was ok but didn't have the strength of presence needed. I am not saying he played badly I am just not sure he has much more to give. Happy to be proved wrong and with Williams and Talia injured he should get more games. I think we dodged a bullet last night with Hawkins out for them. To me we looked a good tall short down back anyway when Pods and Taylor were there so throw Hawkins in and trouble could have been big. It is unfair to Morris to keep asking him to play on guys much taller than himself. He is such a good player and holds up every week but how much would he kill it if he could play on the third tall every game?

So no change for me but if the injured aren't fit and Goodes goes then Pearce comes in (and Morris has to play on a giant yet again!)

Good post, we need to give these guys that are on the fringe, a game or 2 to settle and hopefully adjust.
But I think it's fait to say both Tutt & Ves are at the cross roads. Tutt is the one that needs to show more.
What bothers me is his skill level is sub par compared to other young players in the competion playing in a similar position.
Austin is really only a defender, I am hopeful if given a fair go, he can do a good job for us.

 

[dogwatch]

Pearce for goodes. Goodes lack of pace was a real issue defensively last night and put other players under pressure to help cover for him. Something to keep an eye on.

Vez was god awful but I don't believe in dropping a guy after 1 game when he's forced his way in on form.

Tutt would be gawrn if we weren't playing on the biggest ground in the world next week and need all the run we can get. Man that guy plays scared.

Hope you don't mind my asking Fronky but you seem to have it in for Tutt (pretty sure you've made comments about him playing scared elsewhere on this board) but since last season you've been saying Howard will make it and has a lot to offer. Why is that? Also what do you mean playing scared? Does he lack courage, or just composure?

I see them (and Vesz) as being in about the same place - each has to show something in the seniors this year or they are "gawrn". At the moment Tutt would have to be slightly ahead of Howard in that he has earned senior selection, possibly because he's been doing more of the things the coaches demand than Howard has.

Tutt's game last week was like Vesz's this week. Tried to get into the game but found the adjustment hard. Both ended up with only a handful of disposals. However Tutt was considerably better this week, even if his execution let him down at times as you have rightly pointed out. But he did also have a hand in some goals and made some good opportunities for himself as well. Howard was apparently drafted because of his good disposal but many observers have said it doesn't translate to good disposal under match pressure. What does he offer that might give hime the advantage over Tutt and Vesz?

I think Tutt must be given at least 1-2 more games to see if he can settle in more to AFL-style pressure and pace. If he doesn't progress then sure try someone else and see if he can play well enough in the VFL to mount another challenge later in the year.

Ditto Vesz. It is not good policy and not Macca's style to bring someone in for half a game then dump them (unless they are clearly out of their depth like Campbell was). The contract should be "we'll give you 2-4 games to show us you can adjust and play the way we want you to - don't worry about getting enough stats in week 1 to hold your place, just focus on doing the team things." For that reason I'd hope Vesz is not made sub this week - he needs a full game and the showing of confidence from the coaches that it implies. He showed with two outstanding VFL performances that he can probably do better than his showing last night.

The fly in the ointment would be if Murphy and/or Griffen come back. Someone would have to make way and Tutt and Vesz would be prime candidates, being at the bottom of the pecking order. Unless of course we decide to rest someone, e.g. Wallis or Macrae.

 

[100action]

The fly in the ointment would be if Murphy and/or Griffen come back. Someone would have to make way and Tutt and Vesz would be prime candidates, being at the bottom of the pecking order. Unless of course we decide to rest someone, e.g. Wallis or Macrae.

Goodes will be rubbed out so that problem may take care of itself. Griff/Murph can play off the HBF.

I also get a feeling you may be helping a fellow Ainslie brotha out .

 

[dogwatch]

Goodes will be rubbed out so that problem may take care of itself. Griff/Murph can play off the HBF.

I also get a feeling you may be helping a fellow Ainslie brotha out .

Haha. Sharp observation there 100A but I've never met the guy. Obviously I wish him well but he has to be judged by the same yardstick as every other player ... hence my comments/questions about Howard and Vesz.

 

[fronkalicious]

I played for belconnen so I hate ainslie.

Not why I'm not a Tutt fan though. To my mind, players that don't have that innate want to attack the footy, never overcome that. I don't think Tutt has it, and I think that kills him.

I also think his lack of composure with the ball is a double whammy. Again, guys either have it (macrae and stringer) or they don't.

I do agree that he and vez should be given another few games though. And to be honest, what's the harm in it anyway.

Re: Howard, I think he's played some better footy at afl level than these 2. I've also watched him very closely at vfl level (mainly in 2010/11) and he impressed me a lot with his composure, decision making and ability to accelerate when in trouble.

I think his lack of pre-seasons has also hurt him. Being fitter helps players use the ball better and also make better decisions.

Im not convinced he'll make it, but I think we should afford him another pre-season to find out

 

[Tommycash]

It should be a really interesting game. I'm concerned that West Coast will start kicking straight though. By all reports Kennedy has been immense of late and the only one who can kick in the forward line. I feel like our defensive depth will hold us in good stead, but a team like West Coast could click at any moment, I really don't want it to be against us. Hopefully we can really control the stoppages. I really hope Goodes doesn't get rubbed out, purely because I want as few changes as possible. We tend to work well with Goodes and JJ running off half back as well.

 

[Igloo]

I really hope Goodes doesn't get rubbed out, purely because I want as few changes as possible. We tend to work well with Goodes and JJ running off half back as well.

I don't think you'll be in luck there. He'll go. Might even be 2 weeks. Worst case would be something like 3.
Pearce or Howard are very likely to be in this week.

 

[Tommycash]

I don't think you'll be in luck there. He'll go. Might even be 2 weeks. Worst case would be something like 3.
Pearce or Howard are very likely to be in this week.

Yeah, I fear you're right. I'd suggest Howard simply because he's been an emergency a fair few times this season. Howard, Vez and Tutt in the side. Will be interesting to see which of them lifts to the next level if any.

 

[matt_bas]

Can anyone tell me what happened to goodes? I tried to look online what he did but couldnt find anything.

 

[bulldoggies]

In: Griffen
Out: Goodes (definitely gone)

I'd be surprised if Boydy gets rubbed out given the acting Selwood put on. I would give Vez another chance or two. Everything seemed to go wrong for him on Saturday night and was stiff not to be given a shot at goal from the boundary umpire saga.

If Boyd gets rubbed out (if he does, I'LL SPEW UP!), then Pearce would be the most obvious replacement as a defensive forward.

 

[Morris Major]

What was Howard's disposal like towards the end of last year? I honestly can't remember, those last 10 or so games were a blur to me

 

[DogDays]

Yeah, I fear you're right. I'd suggest Howard simply because he's been an emergency a fair few times this season. Howard, Vez and Tutt in the side. Will be interesting to see which of them lifts to the next level if any.

I'd rather Grant comes in than Howard - at least Grant has the potential to do something worthwhile if he's not a key focus in the forward line.

 

[Igloo]

Can anyone tell me what happened to goodes? I tried to look online what he did but couldnt find anything.

Went to shepherd smith but got caddy too high. Caddy had no further part in the game, and was concussed. Goodes will be gone

 

[matt_bas]

Went to shepherd smith but got caddy too high. Caddy had no further part in the game, and was concussed. Goodes will be gone

Ouch, thanks mate, hope he dosnt go, great player to watch.

 

[Igloo]

Can anyone tell me what happened to goodes? I tried to look online what he did but couldnt find anything.

Went to

 

[gimp!]

Went to

Hmm, interesting!

 

[Bodicifer]

Out: Goodes (more than likely), Veszpremi (doesn't go hard enough, is a bit soft)
In: Howard, Griffen

We are going to need fit blokes who can run and run and run at Subi, as well as a lot of luck ! If we have a tip like we did against the Cats then I'll be proud. I ****ing hate losing but reality is we are rebuilding.

 

[True Dog]

Apparently Glass was reported last night and has something like 93 carry over points. He would be a huge out and Jones could dominate with his confidence up.

If Glass is missing is there any chance we'd go tall to try and stretch them like Cordy or Roberts? Need to be mindfull that big Will is going to find it harder this week and may need a chop out in the ruck? Not sure Austin is the answer (back up ruck) and Roughy is going to be needed down back for sure?

Wouldn't mind seeing Grant get a chance as well, he seems to work well with Stringer and he strikes me as a player who needs good players around him? Besides the wide open spaces should suite him....

 

[Capital_Dog]

I played for belconnen so I hate Ainslie.

Not why I'm not a Tutt fan though. To my mind, players that don't have that innate want to attack the footy, never overcome that. I don't think Tutt has it, and I think that kills him.

I also think his lack of composure with the ball is a double whammy. Again, guys either have it (macrae and stringer) or they don't.

I do agree that he and vez should be given another few games though. And to be honest, what's the harm in it anyway.

Re: Howard, I think he's played some better footy at afl level than these 2. I've also watched him very closely at vfl level (mainly in 2010/11) and he impressed me a lot with his composure, decision making and ability to accelerate when in trouble.

I think his lack of pre-seasons has also hurt him. Being fitter helps players use the ball better and also make better decisions.

Im not convinced he'll make it, but I think we should afford him another pre-season to find out

It annoys me a little that Ainslie are listed as Tutt's previous club ....

Whilst Tutty played for Ainslie from the Under 18's and beyond as his Dad and uncle played 200 games for the club, his initial junior football was with the Tuggeranong Bulldogs (same colours and jumper). Tutty started with Under 8's and played through to Under 15 or 16s. In that time I dont think he won a best and fairest but was it was noted he had plenty of talent.

BTW the Tugg Bulldogs also produced Aaron Hammill (St Kilda/Carlton) and Justin Blumfield(Essendon/Richmond) in the same draft in 1994.

 

[West Coast 06]

If Glass is missing is there any chance we'd go tall to try and stretch them like Cordy or Roberts? Need to be mindfull that big Will is going to find it harder this week and may need a chop out in the ruck? Not sure Austin is the answer (back up ruck) and Roughy is going to be needed down back for sure?

Wouldn't mind seeing Grant get a chance as well, he seems to work well with Stringer and he strikes me as a player who needs good players around him? Besides the wide open spaces should suite him....

I don't think trying to stretch us is the answer. Brown kept an inform Westhoff goaless and Mackenzie the same with Shultz last week. We have Scofield to bring back if we want another tall back if Glass goes.

Your best bet is a nippy small forward, they kill us every time!