Changes for the 3rd Test

[Power Raid]

What is the selectors issue with Steve O'Keefe?

Bowling average of 23 and Batting average of 29

I know he is our second spinner but surely he is better than Lyon

why would you select the best available?

 

[The_Reaper]

Can we drop the whole argument about Starc?

It's ****ing obvious that he is best XI

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Can we drop the whole argument about Starc?

It's ******* obvious that he is best XI

Can we drop the whole argument about Starc?

It's ******* obvious that he is best XI

Bloody hell, I heard you the first time

 

[The Passenger]

 

[Carlos Danger]

why would you select the best available?

Is goingto be a great shield game NSW v VIC & the scg. Lyon & okeefe bowling. Handscomb & maxwell trying to show they can perform against spin. Can wade keep well on aspinninga deteriorating pitch.
Selectors should learn a bit from that game... assuming they even watch shield cericket

 

[threefa9]

Pick the South Aus second XI that got close to knocking them off in the practice match

 

[footyfan1978]

Remove our Test status and give it to Ireland or Hong Kong.
Thankfully I saw none of todays play but people said we lost 8 for 32. FMD, we have fallen off the cliff.

 

[JackOutback]

If Bailey makes runs this week, I'm warming to him at six. He offers leadership and you know if he comes in at 6 for f*** all, he will at least value his wicket.

Warner
Bancroft (keeping the seat warm for SMarsh)
Khawaja
Smith
Ferguson (won't get many more chances)
Bailey

 

[The Passenger]

In Hobart we scored 12.30 runs per wicket. Our fourth lowest runs per wicket in a test since WWI.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;team=2;template=results;type=team;view=match

Interestingly that test in 1928 against England (11.05) was Don Bradman's test debut, and contained a very strong batting line-up in it's very embryonic stages.

Averaging less than 16 runs per wicket in a test since WWI by date - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;team=2;template=results;type=team;view=match

It's not pretty reading.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

If Bailey makes runs this week, I'm warming to him at six. He offers leadership and you know if he comes in at 6 for f*** all, he will at least value his wicket.

Warner
Bancroft (keeping the seat warm for SMarsh)
Khawaja
Smith
Ferguson (won't get many more chances)
Bailey

I don't get you pumping up Bailey but then saying a bloke who has averaged 50 for 2 and a bit Shield seasons shouldn't get many more chances.

Bailey has been tried and tested at Test level and failed. His technique won't handle good Test bowling.

Would be better off bringing in a performing youngster like Handscomb or Patterson.

 

[to1994]

If Bailey makes runs this week, I'm warming to him at six. He offers leadership and you know if he comes in at 6 for f*** all, he will at least value his wicket.

Warner
Bancroft (keeping the seat warm for SMarsh)
Khawaja
Smith
Ferguson (won't get many more chances)
Bailey

What's the point of debuting a 23 year old to keep the seat warm? You might as well just play Burns again seeing as he's an injury replacement anyway.

The Voges experiment was mostly a failure, the last thing we need to do is do the same with with Bailey who a) has proven he's not up to it and b) has a worse record then Voges in the Shield.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

You whinge about this but don't want Holland, despite being 3rd on the wicket takers list?

That's right.

Just looking through people's sides here, Australian cricket is dead if the selectors share the same sentiments.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Don't think we'll see too many changes for this test. Expecting a few more for the changes for the Pakistan series.

Team:
Warner - obviously
Burns - SMarsh comes straight back in when fit so no use trying someone new yet. Not sure Burns has the technique to open at test level right now, think his future is at 5 or 6
Khawaja - the bloke is too talented to be failing as often as he has been. Obviously not close to being dropped but he is one who needs to be more consistent
Smith - obviously
Handscomb - best performed state level batsman of the past few years. In the right age bracket, time for him to get his opportunity
Ferguson - would be too harsh to drop him after one game. Wasn't too hot on his initial selection but now he's in he deserves at least a few more games to see if he has what it takes. I really hope he takes his chance. Should have played a lot more international cricket, particularly in ODIs, over the past few years
Nevill - probably should get dropped. Probably should've been dropped a while ago tbh. Gets one more chance but I think Wade will be keeper against Pakistan
Siddle/Mennie - think Bird is the best option we've got until Cummins and Pattinson can get on the park but I don't see him getting a game in Adelaide. Thought Mennie was okay with the ball, but not convinced he is good enough at this level. Sidds is probably a good chance to come straight back in if he's fit. He's not the answer but there is a real lack of options.
Starc - obviously
Hazlewood - obviously
Lyon - boy is he out of form. Those behind him (O'Keefe, Holland and Agar) have all looked very pedestrian at test level but are all in good form at state level. Needs to sharpen up and fast. Can see Swepson being a surprise selection for him later in the summer if he doesn't find something fast.

Of the others:

Voges - would be surprised if he plays another test
Bailey/Klinger/White - not the time for stopgap selections
Bancroft/Patterson/Head/Lehmann - wouldn't be displeased if one of these guys got an opportunity. All behind Handscomb though. Not sure if they're ready yet. It would be nice if they got a taste of it could spur them on to go to the next level
Maxwell - would be happy to take the risk on him and see what happens. Could be a handy counter attacker at number 6 (De Kock style). Probably only gets a chance if Ferguson and/or Burns don't take their opportunities
Wade - has his keeping improved enough to be selected? I'm not sure. As a batsman he is so far ahead of Nevill. I'm sure he wonders why he wasn't afforded the same latitude as Nevill has so far.
MMarsh - only comes back when he dominates shield cricket
Henriques/Stoinis - not sure an AR is required at this stage, both would need to be dominating the Shield to get a look in
Behrendorrf/Sayers - both do their best work with the new ball but with Starc and Hazlewood they'd be forced to bowl first change. I'd have them behind Bird at this stage, can see Sayers debuting before the end of the summer. Feel like he should have got an opportunity first over Mennie

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I don't think I could watch us if Bailey plays with that new stance. It's offensive!

Mind you it's tough watching us as it is

 

[Frank Gallagher]

What an absolute campaigner of a side, I reckon Smith has to be replaced as captain, there's no leadership or fight in this team, and I'd bring in a few Victorian batsmen.

 

[BarryMorgan]

What an absolute campaigner of a side, I reckon Smith has to be replaced as captain, there's no leadership or fight in this team, and I'd bring in a few Victorian batsmen.

I don't agree that Smith should be axed as captain, but I was wondering this - who do people think is Australia's next Test captain?

 

[Frank Gallagher]

I don't agree that Smith should be axed as captain, but I was wondering this - who do people think is Australia's next Test captain?

ATM we're better off playing Warner at 1 and 10 bowlers, we'd still make as many runs but we'd get more WKTs.

If this shit doesn't turn around and fast id replace Smith with Warner.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't agree that Smith should be axed as captain, but I was wondering this - who do people think is Australia's next Test captain?

It should be Matthew Wade. Won't be though.

 

[BarryMorgan]

It should be Matthew Wade. Won't be though.

Matthew Wade has already been ruled out as captain due to partaking in this -

 

[The Passenger]

Matthew wade as oz captain... Good god. Mind you I've got better things to do then sit around watching endless streams of Sheffield shield so maybe he's got some tactical nous that is not outwardly portrayed.

It's probably not even in anyones thoughts that has anything to do with CA. The plan would be Steve Smith for at least 5 to 6 years, maybe even up to 10.

Smith's hasnt been near as tactically astute as Clarke but barring a disaster he'll be in this team till he calls time on his own career.

Pointing was the only ex captain to play under a new captain for a long time and it was only a handful of tests. Ideally Smith wouldn't do the same with the next unless Smith didn't want the job.

Travis Head is clearly been seen as a potential candidate. He'll be late 20's, maybe early 30's when smith retires. So much water to go under the bridge though.

 

[bird_man]

Matthew wade as oz captain... Good god. Mind you I've got better things to do then sit around watching endless streams of Sheffield shield so maybe he's got some tactical nous that is not outwardly portrayed.

It's probably not even in anyones thoughts that has anything to do with CA. The plan would be Steve Smith for at least 5 to 6 years, maybe even up to 10.

Smith's hasnt been near as tactically astute as Clarke but barring a disaster he'll be in this team till he calls time on his own career.

Pointing was the only ex captain to play under a new captain for a long time and it was only a handful of tests. Ideally Smith wouldn't do the same with the next unless Smith didn't want the job.

Travis Head is clearly been seen as a potential candidate. He'll be late 20's, maybe early 30's when smith retires. So much water to go under the bridge though.

He does actually seem a very good captain at Shield level, but the guy isn't even in the test side!!

Smith needs some time, I cant see how he cops all the blame for our batting collapses, surely that comes down to the coaches and the individuals.

 

[The Passenger]

He does actually seem a very good captain at Shield level, but the guy isn't even in the test side!!

yeah he might be. I might have jumped the gun a bit.

But he's biggest problem to being next captain he is older than Smith so he'll likely be retired before him anyway.

If he does play on longer than Smith its likely to be a Clarke/Haddin/Smith scenario wgere he won't be around long enough after the outgoing captain to give him the role. And that's if he can even get back in the team as a regular.

 

[bird_man]

yeah he might be. I might have jumped the gun a bit.

But he's biggest problem to being next captain he is older than Smith so he'll likely be retired before him anyway.

If he does play on longer than Smith its likely to be a Clarke/Haddin/Smith scenario wgere he won't be around long enough after the outgoing captain to give him the role. And that's if he can even get back in the team as a regular.

I wouldn't worry about it mate, it's not going to happen. He may help improve the side though if the selectors feel his keeping has actually improved, he has strong character and a fair bit of campaigner about him.

 

[roscreasl98]

I don't get you pumping up Bailey but then saying a bloke who has averaged 50 for 2 and a bit Shield seasons shouldn't get many more chances.

Bailey has been tried and tested at Test level and failed. His technique won't handle good Test bowling.

Would be better off bringing in a performing youngster like Handscomb or Patterson.

Warner, S. Marsh, Khawaja, Smith, Handscomb, Wade, White, Starc, Sayers, Hazlewood, Lyon/Agar (12th Man Lehmann)

Also, has anyone seen Faf using a lolly in the mouth to tamper with the ball, its all over SEN?

 

[bird_man]

Warner, S. Marsh, Khawaja, Smith, Handscomb, Wade, White, Starc, Sayers, Hazlewood, Lyon/Agar (12th Man Lehmann)

Also, has anyone seen Faf using a lolly in the mouth to tamper with the ball, its all over SEN?

White as a bowler? How many overs has he bowled in the last 5 years?