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[Donuts_]

If the forecast of showers proves correct then you'd hope we learned a bit from yesterday, but with an actual clown coaching us I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Adz2332]

If Ramm keeps playing like he did today, I can't see a reason why Ramm can't make a sneaky debut.

especially with aliir looking super sore. just out him on ice.

debut lai ramm and whitlock before the seasons out

 

[Windy Cindy]

Can we just go the knuckle for 4 quarters.. take a few out..

Love to somehow shove it up them.. but even if we do dominate it will be 60 inside 50s for 5.14 and 4 Ootf..

 

[Windy Cindy]

If the forecast of showers proves correct then you'd hope we learned a bit from yesterday, but with an actual clown coaching us I'm not holding my breath.

We will train indoors all week

 

[rignanv]

I wonder if Ramm wants to babysit Walker next weekend.

He looked good today. I reckon it's a good move playing him and Whitlock. We've got nothing to lose.

 

[SonOfKek]

If I'm Nicks, I'm not going to risk the health of my players by demanding a bloodbath. The crows will win by plenty and stay in 2nd gear.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I'd be tempted to play Charleson. He has good goal sense, physically is ready to go and loves being a pest.

It's funny, wasn't that long ago I was ready to delist him but he's shown a bit this year.

 

[Donuts_]

There are probably numerous other Showdowns as good or better at summing up Stinkley's record than this one, but because it was not far removed from Adelaide being the laughingstock of the AFL, it stands out to me.

Showdown 50. The 2nd Showdown of 2021. 4th placed Port vs the reigning wooden spooners in 16th.

The lone Showdown in 2020 had whet my appetite again. We smashed them by 75 points in shortened quarters. There was eagerness for more - perhaps some payback for the numerous disasters Adelaide had inflicted late last decade?

Nope, that was as good as it was going to get. Here, by half time we had managed 1.5 to 4.6. Adelaide led all night until Port finally hit the front with 9 minutes left and eventually clung on to an inglorious 4 point win. Aliir Aliir saved us with 10 intercept marks and won the Showdown Medal.

Now for a bit more context:

• Pre-game odds I found: Port $1.08, Adelaide $8.00
• Captain Taylor Walker
  13

  Taylor Walker

  Age

  35

  Ht

  192cm

  Wt

  102kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  9.0

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  5.7

  5star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  2.3

  5star

  No current season stats available

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  6.4

  3star

  HB

  1.6

  2star

  M

  4.2

  4star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  1.6

  5star

  was not playing due to suspension for his racist comment.
• A selection of luminaries we faced that night:

Brayden Cook (debut)
Ben Davis

40

Ben Davis

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

(Career: 0 wins, 4 losses)
Will Hamill

17

Will Hamill

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

3star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

135.2

3star

(5-20)
Elliott Himmelberg

12

Elliott Himmelberg

Age

27

Ht

196cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.0

1star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

(9-17)
Chayce Jones

1

Chayce Jones

Age

25

Ht

180cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

8.9

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.6

3star

CL

1.1

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.8

3star

(7-29)
Ned McHenry

25

Ned Mchenry

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

with 2 goals (6-21)
Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(7-18)
Lachlan Murphy

4

Lachlan Murphy

Age

26

Ht

178cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

G

1.0

4star

(22-35)
Harry Schoenberg (9-19)

When asked for his view prior to the start of the 3rd quarter, our coach said the line: "Ah it's pretty fundamental it's pretty simple, we're just being outworked a bit."

By this point you'd had nearly 9 years to work that issue out you muppet.

Apart from 2020-2021, I've dreaded Showdowns ever since this arsekicking in Don Pyke's first Showdown on a warm April day in 2016.

 

[Scodges]

Which has the better bald head? Nicks or Hinkley?

I think Nicks buffs his noggn , its really really shiny..

 

[TazD]

Play the kids (not bonner)

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Aliir is going to get eaten alive by whoever out of Thilthorpe, Fogarty he gets.

Rather put him on ice and just let Ramm have his learnings.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

Aliir is going to get eaten alive by whoever out of Thilthorpe, Fogarty he gets.

Rather put him on ice and just let Ramm have his learnings.

Are you secretly Ken?

You uttered the word "learnings" and that is a very Ken Hinkley word.

 

[Chachi]

He looked good today. I reckon it's a good move playing him and Whitlock. We've got nothing to lose.

Don’t mind Ramm coming in but probably not the right game for Whitlock though he does deserve an opportunity.
Conditions probably suit defenders over forwards.

 

[JimmyBC]

If the forecast of showers proves correct then you'd hope we learned a bit from yesterday, but with an actual clown coaching us I'm not holding my breath.

Pack a snorkel?

 

[JimmyBC]

Not sure Ramm will learn anything being thrown to the wolves

 

[Doctor Feel]

Lol had no idea the showdown was coming up. Go Kenny and the boys!

 

[philreich]

A Port fan attending this game is the epitome of a masochist.

 

[RossFC]

Not sure Ramm will learn anything being thrown to the wolves

He’ll get thrown to the wolves in the SANFL showdown, there is nowhere to hide.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Let's just see if the amazing mind of Ken Hinkley can get the boys across the line or alternatively if the boys will let Kenny down because he can't kick it for them.

 

[JimmyBC]

He’ll get thrown to the wolves in the SANFL showdown, there is nowhere to hide.

Just not sure getting umpteen goals kicked on him by the three prong bogan crows forward line is great for a kid in an AFL debut.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Just not sure getting umpteen goals kicked on him by the three prong bogan crows forward line is great for a kid in an AFL debut.

Next minute he takes 15 intercept marks and is Sam Taylor over night… those GWS defenders didn’t seem to turn out too bad when they were taken to the cleaners.

If you prepare the ‘kid’ correctly, take whatever he gives and don’t bake him on deficiencies, he may just surprise. Tell him he has 3 games to get up to speed before we are going to genuinely work on Bettering his game. Heck that’s the precedent the board have set this year giving Hinkley the last 23 games!

Expectations, ‘we’ expect Fogarty to kick 15 goals on you, go out there and exceed expectations…

 

[RangaInTeal]

Let the kid fail, give him a platform to perform, but don’t be scared of a kid falling and grazing a knee.

 

[Portpowerfan20040621]

B: Burgoyne - Zerk-Thatcher - Ramm
HB: Farrell - Aliir - Rozee (C)
C: Lorenz - Wines - Jackson
HF: Rioli - Lukosius - Byrne-Jones
F: Richards - Georgiades - Williams
FOLL: Sweet - Bergman - Butters
INT: Whitlock - Lai - Boak - Charleson
SUB: Berry
EMG: Finlayson - Drew - Moraes

INS/OUTS:
IN: Harrison Ramm OUT: Logan Evans (Omitted)
IN: Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

189.2

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

189.2

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

OUT: Josh Sinn (Omitted)
IN: Willie Rioli

15

Willie Rioli

Age

30

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

OUT: Jackson Mead (Omitted)
IN: Jack Whitlock OUT: Ollie Lord (Omitted)
IN: Josh Lai OUT: Lachie Jones (Omitted)
IN: Lachlan Charleson OUT: Mani Liddy (Omitted)
IN: Joe Berry OUT: Willem Drew

28

Willem Drew

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

5.6

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

18.0

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(Omitted)

Yep 4 debutants is probably one too many but I don’t give a damm. Reward Ramm and Whitlock’s SANFL games. 19 marks combined so give them an opportunity. Yes Ramm will get thrown to the wolves against Walker, Fogarty and Thilthorpe but I’d rather Ramm on one of them rather than it be Logan Evans or Lachie Jones who have been playing as that 3rd hybrid tall defender.

Don’t care get Willie in. His confidence looked better and he looked better physically so he should be back in unless he doesn’t train again this week.

Lai’s been as impressive as you can get. I’d rather him than Brainless Lachie Jones or Logan Evans whose been missing in action since R24 last year.

Charleson has kicked 15 goals this year in a SANFL forward line that doesn’t get any good delivery from the team so I’ll reward him and see if he has any potential to take that next step

Berry hasn’t been an standout in the SANFL but since the season is done you may as well play him and see what he can get out of the rest of the season.

Then if Rozee declares himself fit then you have to play him. Simple as that.

 

[WillemDaDrew]

Cold, wet, windy night in July..
This game has 2017 Showdown XLIII vibes.

 

[Donuts_]

Not sure Ramm will learn anything being thrown to the wolves

If it's pissing down then you'd think their three talls would be far less threatening and Ramm would probably struggle with them too.

Same reason I'd hold off on debuting Whitlock.

I'd just go with Bergman/Jones as the 3rd "tall". Walker and Fogarty are both only 192cm.

But if it's dry then all bets are off.