Changes - R16 v Sydney @ SCG

[ossie_21]

Not sure you can quote directly from another board I have had warning for doing this before which I was unaware was the rule.

Can’t directly quote it, which would link it & notify the OP. Copy & paste is fine

 

[X_box_X]

Not sure you can quote directly from another board I have had warning for doing this before which I was unaware was the rule.

I wasn't aware of that either. Any idea why that would be and what you were told when issued with the warning?

Is there a difference between an 'official quote' rather than a simple 'copy and paste' job?

 

[Optimistic Dog]

I wasn't aware of that either. Any idea why that would be and what you were told when issued with the warning?

Is there a difference between an 'official quote' rather than a simple 'copy and paste' job?

I pasted from GWS board and got a warning.

 

[dogwatch]

I wasn't aware of that either. Any idea why that would be and what you were told when issued with the warning?

Is there a difference between an 'official quote' rather than a simple 'copy and paste' job?

Doesn’t a direct quote mean it’s a reply and therefore the original poster gets an automatic notification? If so it may be seen as a provocation toward a foreign board. Whereas a cut & paste is more of a cross reference with no notification back to the original author.

Just speculating. I generally don’t go to other boards or the MB.

 

[Wetdog]

Where did you hear that ?

See previous post!

(An impeccable source).

 

[Fossie 32]

Preview from the Swans board...




The Swans are clawing back to form after a disastrous start to the season. Plagued by injuries, they've slipped to around 14th on the ladder. But with key players returning, there's a genuine belief under Dean Cox, fresh from John Longmire's departure, that they're ready to make a statement.

Heading into Round 15, Sydney welcomed back Errol Gulden and Tom Papley last weekend, both played a role in our upset win over Port and will be better for the run (Seriously how good was it having Gulden in the side?)

Especially crucial was Joel Amartey, who's return from suspension and injury gave us the presence up forward we have been missing (Let’s just not mention his goalkicking which was more wayward than a middle-aged man’s rod of justice when he forgets to take his uppers.)


While the Swans look to reassemble, the Bulldogs are rolling by strictly beating teams lower than them on the ladder. Sam Darcy has grabbed headlines 205 cm of pure disgusting aerial power, earning “Frankenstein” comparisons (at least from myself) after monster games (Oh how I wish we could bring back Craig Bolton just for one week.)

Even after a knee scare in Round 4, Darcy returned swiftly, his imposing presence a key pillar in the Bulldogs' surge up the ladder (currently around 9th with 7–6). If we can find a way to limit his influence it will be critical for our chances at success.

Sunday’s form guides show a Bulldogs side firing on all cylinders powerful, dynamic, and confident on the rebound.

The contrast between the sides? Bulldogs fit and flourishing; Swans patching key elements back into shape. But that reintegration is timely and we are well poised to create a few upsets in the second half of the season (Plus honestly if we could win just one more game for the year, I would like to win this one.)

Expect Dean Cox to lean on structure and pressure... crowding the midfield and stoppages, loose man in front intercepting the ball before Darcy can get to it, and attacking deliberately the ball carrier with pace, all to limit the Bulldogs’ ball movement.

Recent matches back this playstyle. With both the victories over Richmond and Port being generated by a strong defensive effort.

Needed badly, because the Bulldogs are lethal in transition. Their structure around Darcy and midfield runners is brutal when in rhythm.


But at the SCG we should be able to control the game a bit more and ideally land a pretty big blow to the Dogs' finals aspirations whilst giving our own a good jolt in the arm.

Under Cox, the Swans have been pretty undisciplined, this week we will have to reign that in whilst also ensuring we take our chances.

Lining up midfield match-ups, Gulden’s return is pivotal to our set up, his composure under pressure, ability to hit space, and control through congestion will be a barometer of how well the Swans can transition the ball outside of the clearance. I think we have to send Jordan to Bontempelli and limit his influence.

Less obvious but vital, will be locking the ball in our forward line. At times this year we have allowed way too much transition from our own forward half, we need to ensure we lock it in and don't allow quick transition to their forward line.

Defensively, need to keep up the effort from the last few weeks. Whilst the Dogs have struggled to beat sides above them on the ladder this year, they are yet to be blown out of the water (Biggest loss by 22 points), we need to ensure we keep the pressure on for 4 quarters.

On form, Darcy is just one weapon. The Bulldogs rotate mids cleverly and we need to ensure that we have our eyes on this and don't allow loose players up forward (The Dogs have had 9 different players kick more than 11 goals this year.)

Game plan for Sydney: stop Darcy in the air, stop transitions, and hit the ball carrier with speed. Force Bulldogs into stoppages whilst allowing ourselves to spread on the outside.

Scale of the challenge is real on paper this year, the Bulldogs look stronger. But Sydney’s narrative is emerging: returning players (Seriously how much better do we look with Gulden, Papley, Amartey, Cunningham, Melican, Mills and McInerney?) fresh tactics under Cox, and a chance to reclaim SCG dominance.


Accept that at times the Dogs will have momentum in this match, when this happens we need to congest our defensive 50, absorb the pressure and wait for a chance to rebound.

Results over this year, probably shouldn't be taken into account. It's hard to read our season this year with the amount of injuries we have had.

Every metre of space matters. If Sydney can crowd the corridor and f orce the dogs to kick up the line to congestion, they have a path to shock the form side.


The SCG crowd needs to be up and about this week. Force a few "home team" decisions (Not counting on it though)

Harry Cunningham, may be one of the most important players to our side, our defence has been far more settled since his return and his combination with Wicks has stopped small forwards getting a hold of us.

Errol Gulden, that is all. Was incredibly having him back in the side over the weekend and he made a huge difference to our side particularly early when the game was on the line.


Under Cox, this is a side still forming its identity, but the signs are there, and they’re loud. Our contested game is slowly showing signs of improvement, if we can get our outside transition to last years levels we are going to be a serious threat moving forward.

Make no mistake, this game is probably the most critical of our season, I honestly believe if we can get up here we will have some serious momentum.

Progress isn’t always linear, but we have made some nice changes this year, as mentioned earlier our contested disposal has been greatly improved and our defensive structure has looked really nice in recent weeks.

If we kick like last week we stand no chance in this one, yes bad kicking is infectious but so is good goal kicking, if we can nail our first few chances look out.

Remember, the Bulldogs haven't beaten the more classy sides this year, if we can take our chances and pressure them.... anything can happen on the day.

Everything is on the line, our season can either end here or begin here.

Sheldrick is quite quickly becoming critical to our midfield set up, loved seeing the centre bounce combination of him, Jordan and McInerney a few times over the weekend with all three players able to get the hard ball.


Play the Bloods way. Hunt. Scrap and most importantly believe (Yes I may of been watching Ted Lasso).

Even if they get the calls (which will happen lets be honest), we have to ensure we don't get sucked in. Play to the whistle and don't be undisciplined like earlier in the season.

Turn up the chaos, Chad, Errol, Lizard and Papley thrive on chaos football. Be prepared to take extra risks, perform those switch kicks and brake up their defensive structures (This is critical as the Dogs have quite a few players who can break off their man and intercept).

Sydney Swans by 16 points

Whoohoo we’re going to get the calls!

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Few things delight me more than hearing a Swans supporter lament the umpiring of 2016. Truly, no fanbase nurses a grudge and clings to bitterness with such tenacity

I put this on the main board for the swans v dogs game.


Every time we play the swans they complain about getting robbed in the 2016 Granf Final by the umpires and AFL conspiracy costing them the flag. Well, it is time to become Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage from MythBusters.

Myth. Did an AFL conspiracy of instructing the umpires to cheat to ensure a Bulldogs win effect the result.


Findings

Whilst there is no doubt the Bulldogs got some frees they were not entitled too (20 to 8), and the swans were not given some they were entitled to there was no evidence to suggest there was and AFL conspiracy. It was found that incorrect frees happens in most games as the umpires are human and never does it effect a result of 22 points or more and there was no AFL conspiracy.

Further evidence revealed the dogs were the superior team and thoroughly deserved their flag. See below

Won by 22 points
7 more scoring shots
Scored 6.10 to 3.4 after half time
Had 59 inside 50's to 41

Myth not proven and factually incorrect.

Last

 

[bresker]

Just troll them by saying "I know the umpires were on our side in 2016, and I'm hearing whispers they'll be back on side in 2025"

 

[Philthy1]

I put this on the main board for the swans v dogs game.


Every time we play the swans they complain about getting robbed in the 2016 Granf Final by the umpires and AFL conspiracy costing them the flag. Well, it is time to become Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage from MythBusters.

Myth. Did an AFL conspiracy of instructing the umpires to cheat to ensure a Bulldogs win effect the result.


Findings

Whilst there is no doubt the Bulldogs got some frees they were not entitled too (20 to 8), and the swans were not given some they were entitled to there was no evidence to suggest there was and AFL conspiracy. It was found that incorrect frees happens in most games as the umpires are human and never does it effect a result of 22 points or more and there was no AFL conspiracy.

Further evidence revealed the dogs were the superior team and thoroughly deserved their flag. See below

Won by 22 points
7 more scoring shots
Scored 6.10 to 3.4 after half time
Had 59 inside 50's to 41

Myth not proven and factually incorrect.

Last

You're very diplomatic.

Anytime a Sydney support raises it with me, my response is something along the lines of:

"You lost. Go f*** yourself"

 

[fanchic]

West is in rare air, absolute stellar season. Watch him in the forward 50 this week, he's on the verge or beating records !!!!

 

[JohnnySteel]

West is in rare air, absolute stellar season. Watch him in the forward 50 this week, he's on the verge or beating records !!!!

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Absolute gun. What’s the record?

 

[Optimistic Dog]

You're very diplomatic.

Anytime a Sydney support raises it with me, my response is something along the lines of:

"You lost. Go f*** yourself"

That is probably what Donald Trump would say.

 

[RWnBluey]

I put this on the main board for the swans v dogs game.


Every time we play the swans they complain about getting robbed in the 2016 Granf Final by the umpires and AFL conspiracy costing them the flag. Well, it is time to become Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage from MythBusters.

Myth. Did an AFL conspiracy of instructing the umpires to cheat to ensure a Bulldogs win effect the result.


Findings

Whilst there is no doubt the Bulldogs got some frees they were not entitled too (20 to 8), and the swans were not given some they were entitled to there was no evidence to suggest there was and AFL conspiracy. It was found that incorrect frees happens in most games as the umpires are human and never does it effect a result of 22 points or more and there was no AFL conspiracy.

Further evidence revealed the dogs were the superior team and thoroughly deserved their flag. See below

Won by 22 points
7 more scoring shots
Scored 6.10 to 3.4 after half time
Had 59 inside 50's to 41

Myth not proven and factually incorrect.

Last

That’s far too much effort. No amount of rational explanation will alter their sentiment. I’ve found it’s far more triggering — and therefore satisfying — to simply laugh at them.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

No one has given away more free kicks over the last two seasons than Grundy.

One of Tim's strengths is drawing free kicks.

One of Sydney supporters' biggest weaknesses is crying foul at the umpiring.

The script is set for Tim to get five free kicks, three of them directly leading to match winning goals.

Grundy and Rowan Marshall are the kings of giving away braindead free kicks in the ruck when they are about to lose a hitout

 

[manutd/dogs]

Absolute gun. What’s the record?

Ground ball gets inside attacking 50.

 

[Bald]

Dolan omitted. Treloar out.

JJ and Sanders in.

 

[dogwatch]

Dolan omitted. Treloar out.

JJ and Sanders in.

No melts from me.

 

[bresker]

JJ had a really good game against the Swans a few years ago

 

[JohnnySteel]

Perfectly resonable changes. Harmes likely sub?
Glad Hynes kept his spot in the 22.

 

[The White Mouse]

250 this week for Bont, 250 the following week
for Tom.

Norf must be filthy that didn’t orchestrate Bont and Libba's joint 250th against them next week at Marvel. Would have been the closest thing to a block buster they've played in for years.

 

[Astro_]

Weren’t the reports Naughton was out?

 

[Bald]

Perfectly sound changes. Harmes likely sub?
Glad Hynes kept his spot in the 22.

It’ll either be Harmes or Bramble you’d think.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Good to see JOD still in. Hopefully that means he is 100%

JJ and Sanders both best 22, happy with those ins. Dolan shows promise but understandable why he is still on fringe

7 defenders in the 23 so I imagine Freijah will be midfield unless Bramble is sub

 

[Bald]

Weren’t the reports Naughton was out?

No reports. There was a fake tweet apparently.

 

[SackofTaters]

I really hope Sellwood comes along quickly so I never have to see Bramble in a selected side..

Other than that, some logical in's ( I love Dolan's game, just needs time ). Go Dogs.