Preview Changes: R6 2019 vs St Kilda

[Golumless]

Fairly predictable selection this week. It was always going to be either Gooch or Poholke. Poholke has been the form SANFL player for us this year. He is faster than some here may think and offers plenty of run. Deserves another crack at it.

He may be quicker then what some give him credit for, however, he is not quick enough to be a half forward.

For that, you have to be one of the fastest players in the squad period.

 

[Scorpus]

I fear 2019 will be a year when galucci’s development goes nowhere, just as he looked like he was hitting his straps at the end of last year.

I hope I’m wrong as I’m a big fan

It certainly won't be Gallucci's fault

 

[MRB37]

If Poholke has come in to play at half forward why did he play midfield in the SANFL last week? Especially considering that he really struggled to get into the game at half forward vs North Melbourne

Play Gooch and McHenry as wings, yet refuse to consider them in that position.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

 

[spexau]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that.

Gibbs actually a great overhead mark but yeah I kind of agree

 

[NTRabbit]

Won't be Gooch, it was his turn last week. I will say Jones. Had a week off last week, another week off sets him back even more, so I look forward to his return in Round 21 when we're out of finals contention.

Jones wasn't really doing enough to keep his spot anyway, it's pretty clear he's not a first year running start player like Sam Walsh, he looks much more like a 3 year project.

Really not sure what putting Poholke in is supposed to achieve, he's the most vanilla inside mid in the squad and we're already playing Crouch, Greenwood, and CEY.

 

[Scorpus]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

Mate our selection policies are just completely ****ed. Not knowing what a forward looks like is probably right down the bottom of the list

 

[mistylake]

Poholke deserves his chance again though, but yeah would like to hear the rationale behind the selection

Something like this.

 

[Golumless]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

I disagree with Knight, he is pretty useful defensively up forward when playing well.

 

[Brenton Davy]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

The bolded are regular goalkickers.

 

[Tex Danger]

I thought Gooch would have been in but at least they have selected a guy who has banged the door down (then got a chance and sent back to again bash the door down). While there have been some reports from SANFL of promising signs from Gooch it doesn't sound like he was forcing our hand to pick him.

I don't disagree with the debate about team balance though. Especially since now they've gone back to Poholke they almost have to give him at least 2 games (unless he is clearly our worst) because you cant just yo-yo a guy in and out repeatedly 1 game at a time.

Knight probably the one who has to be looking over his shoulder most if Gooch has a good game Sat (assuming he isn't the travelling emg)

 

[Cap]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

I could be wrong, generally are.

But wasn't Poholke known as a goal kicking mid in his recruitment year?

I remember him doing well in the SANFL as a mid/HFF

 

[jackster83]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

Pecking order comes before structure. You know that Drugs, I mean Pyke has used that model since he started.

 

[hey shorty]

I disagree with Knight, he is pretty useful defensively up forward when playing well.

Which isn't now.

Needs to go back to the 2s and get some confidence.

 

[Carmo]

Just hope that we might actually play decent as a team while poholke is in. Seems every time the guy gets selected we stink in that game, helping make him look a lot worse than he is.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Hartigan is in absolutely horrid form and we’re taking three tall slow defenders in, including him, against a team packed with small, fast forwards..

Yeah, that’ll work.

Are the miscreants selecting this team really this stupid?... do they actually watch the same games we do?..

Maybe they are like the mother of a grubby lowlife criminal who still thinks, against all the evidence, their dear little boy is a saint who hasn’t done anything but good..

 

[Tobster]

Hartigan is in absolutely horrid form and we’re taking three tall slow defenders in, including him, against a team packed with small, fast forwards..

Yeah, that’ll work.

Are the dilettantes selecting this team really this stupid?... do they actually watch the same games we do?..

Maybe they are like the mother of a grubby lowlife criminal who still thinks, against all the evidence, their dear little boy is a saint who hasn’t done anything but good..

Hartigan’s not slow. But it’s his one and only redeeming feature, if he has one.


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[Bicks]

I disagree with Knight, he is pretty useful defensively up forward when playing well.

He's pretty useful defensively wherever he plays even when he's playing ordinarily.

 

[Murray2503]

Well this selection only helps St Kilda imo. Lose this week and finals are done. Would need to win 11 from 16 which won't happen. Perhaps we won't start seeing selections changes until the season is done. One can only hope.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Hartigan’s not slow. But it’s his one and only redeeming feature, if he has one.


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Hartigans not slow???... you must be watching a different Hartigan to me!..

He might be able to run quicker than some... but his decision making (the important part) is glacial like.. and, when the little symbol playing monkey in his head finally makes a decision, it is normally the wrong one... and the opposition has had an eternity to set up down field..

 

[Dc9798]

Again, we’ve managed to make our side slower again... No offence to Poholke but surely you replace a player with pace such as Milera with another player with pace such as Gallucci. We have more than enough inside mids in the team as it is!


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[Bearded Clam]

Well this selection only helps St Kilda imo. Lose this week and finals are done. Would need to win 11 from 16 which won't happen. Perhaps we won't start seeing selections changes until the season is done. One can only hope.

In regards to not seeing selection changes until the season is done...

Our 2018 season says hi!..

 

[GreyCrow]

Could probably start a thread on this but we have to start treating the forward line as specialised roles. Plays who can score and create goals, trap the ball in, dangerous at ground level and in the air, provide frontal pressure etc.

It can't just be treated as a spillover area where the mids who can't fit in the centre square play.

Greenwood is our only current mid who can also spend time up forward. He has value and can contribute as a genuine forward.

CEY, Sloane, M Crouch, B Crouch, Gibbs, Atkins, Seedsman, Mackay all offer nothing when they're up there. Add Knight to that. I suspect Poholke too though he is young so too early to judge.

The All Australian selection model

 

[Bicks]

I could be wrong, generally are.

But wasn't Poholke known as a goal kicking mid in his recruitment year?

I remember him doing well in the SANFL as a mid/HFF

You are absolutely correct..

https://dandenong.starcommunity.com.au/journal/2016-11-15/poholke-primed-big-time/

With football in hand, Poholke plays with intensity, and believes he can make an influence through the midfield at any AFL club.
“I see myself at AFL level as playing a midfield-forward role, but obviously in the first couple of years, if I’m lucky enough to get a game, I’ll play wherever I’m instructed too,” he said.
“But eventually I’d love to become more of a midfielder who floats forward.
“I sort of model my game a little bit on Luke Parker, and just how he goes inside and out, hits the scoreboard and has elite overhead marking – I like to think we have similar strengths.”
But a knock on his game has always been his fitness, something Poholke believes he has overcome, and in a way, turned into one of his greatest strengths.
“My first interview was actually up on the Gold Coast, and I got a bit of a clip on not working hard enough and that my fitness was poor,” he said.
“Mostly clubs pointed out my fitness, but I tested well at the combine, and I now feel I’ve got that out of their minds.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/06/23/powerful-stingray-relishes-big-stage/

 

[Carmo]

Poholke is fast ffs

how many times do people need to hear this before it sinks in?

0.01 second slower for 20m sprint than jones, who everyone loves for his speed