Preview Changes R6 vs Crows

[meima]

Ibbo, De Boer, Mundy, Tendai and Silvagni will be right in the mix. A lot on here won't be happy about the older boys being recalled but throwing to many kids in to be crushed won't help the kids or the team.

I am happy with it no way I going to allow peel freo kids get throw to Adelaide that is worse thing I ever want, especially the heavy defeat . Start to create under age 24 group now for good backup next year with smooth transition to second peel next year. Make firm decision where we want to be in 5 years time.

 

[meima]

Absolutely agree!
Weller, Grey, Langdon and Tucker all should play. If these are our future, then the only way to develop them is to keep playing them. Add Blakely to the list too.
I know Tabs cops heaps, but lets not forget that he has only played 30 odd games. He is still learning. Sure he will make errors, but will get better for the experience. Looking at him yesterday, he found space, he held marks. I have said it before: he actually looks more comfortable further up the ground than he does near the goals...He is quite fast, tackles well. When he was drafted, he was known for his running capacity. Needs work on his disposal and decision making, but I think it will come with more games.
Either try him at CHF with free rein to run up the ground, or start him on a wing
We cant rebuild unless we invest games into our future players.

Sorry I disagree kids play against team like Adelaide and hawthorn, got to throw them in winnable game like gws,Richmond and essendon. Throw all foot soldiers in for the big body clash further I don't care about their confident especially Tab.

 

[MadDocker]

Takes a lot of heart or a great sales job to convince players like Fyfe and to a lesser degree A.Pearce, Weller etc to stick around for 5 years of rebuilding to hopefully have a shot at a flag.

Fyfe could go to any team he wants in the chase for a flag. We were lucky with Pav and it didn't work out for him. We might not be so lucky with Fyfe.

 

[meima]

Takes a lot of heart or a great sales job to convince players like Fyfe and to a lesser degree A.Pearce, Weller etc to stick around for 5 years of rebuilding to hopefully have a shot at a flag.

Fyfe could go to any team he wants in the chase for a flag. We were lucky with Pav and it didn't work out for him. We might not be so lucky with Fyfe.

Then be it, cannot keep holding back. At first when macca retire I feel sad but now I think he make the best decision go out high play the best he can , give younger player a chance .

 

[MadDocker]

Then be it, cannot keep holding back. At first when macca retire I feel sad but now I think he make the best decision go out high play the best he can , give younger player a chance .

You cannot be serious. Let our best player and others walk to gove the Peel kids a chance at maybe being somehwere near as good as him in 5 years?

I generally like your posting but this one is wayyyy off the mark IMO

 

[yakamoto]

Agree with Salim. Bring back De Boer, Mzungu and maybe even Suban for Adelaide. I also reckon Pav is done. Should rest next week and have farewell appearance against GWS.

 

[meima]

You cannot be serious. Let our best player and others walk to gove the Peel kids a chance at maybe being somehwere near as good as him in 5 years?

I generally like your posting but this one is wayyyy off the mark IMO

He is 27 years old , what make you think that 3 , 20 years old kids in our list spending 3 year develop can't be as good as Mayne .I suppose you said the same with Mayne as kids to replace farmer, medhurst. Get over it maddocker he is a good player but not in our rebuilding plan.

 

[MadDocker]

Mayne? We were talking about Fyfe in this topic. Mayne was the other topic haha.

 

[meima]

Mayne? We were talking about Fyfe in this topic. Mayne was the other topic haha.

Fyfe if he want to go who can stop him , you mention that Mayne need to stay in order to persuade fyfe to stay isint it.

 

[kingswood71]

Sorry I disagree kids play against team like Adelaide and hawthorn, got to throw them in winnable game like gws,Richmond and essendon. Throw all foot soldiers in for the big body clash further I don't care about their confident especially Tab.

I actually think it makes more sense to play the young guys in the big games...Why would you play them in "winnable" games and potentially disrupt the side and not in all games? This actually makes no sense to me for 2 reasons: 1. GWS/Richmond are not even close to winnable games at this stage. So we dont play the young guys against Adelaide and Hawthorn, but bring them back in against GWS....Doing this potentially disrupts the side not to mention then having young players with less experience against teams that wont be easy games.
2. Swapping the young guys for players like Deboer, Gu wont help us win against sides like Adelaide/Hawthorn. In the scheme of things, I just dont think their inclusion benefts the side that much to even get us close to winning.

 

[clivenator26]

Agree with Salim. Bring back De Boer, Mzungu and maybe even Suban for Adelaide. I also reckon Pav is done. Should rest next week and have farewell appearance against GWS.

Pav done? Clearly in his last year but he was in our best 5 against north, wce & gcs, he wasn't too bad yesterday either.

 

[MadDocker]

Fyfe if he want to go who can stop him , you mention that Mayne need to stay in order to persuade fyfe to stay isint it.

Not in this one. You mentioned time to drop everyone and stick to under 24 year olds. I think thats too drastic and our good players won't all be keen on sticking around for that kind of rebuild.

We've got work to do for sure, but, we have some good players to work with still. Fyfe, Neale, Bennell, A.Pearce, Hill, Sheridan, Weller etc could be the foundation of a good team with the addition on a few forwards and backs.

Don't need to go back to sqaure 1 year and do a clear out with that kind of quality on the list.

 

[meima]

I actually think it makes more sense to play the young guys in the big games...Why would you play them in "winnable" games and potentially disrupt the side and not in all games? This actually makes no sense to me for 2 reasons: 1. GWS/Richmond are not even close to winnable games at this stage. So we dont play the young guys against Adelaide and Hawthorn, but bring them back in against GWS....Doing this potentially disrupts the side not to mention then having young players with less experience against teams that wont be easy games.
2. Swapping the young guys for players like Deboer, Gu wont help us win against sides like Adelaide/Hawthorn.

I don't really know now kingswood71 , never expect our over reliance with our star player is that bad until now. Take Sandi ,fyfe , Walters , pav out our list of player is pretty bad. Exclude player with less than 40 afl matches.

 

[meima]

Not in this one. You mentioned time to drop everyone and stick to under 24 year olds. I think thats too drastic and our good players won't all be keen on sticking around for that kind of rebuild.

We've got work to do for sure, but, we have some good players to work with still. Fyfe, Neale, Bennell, A.Pearce, Hill, Sheridan, Weller etc could be the foundation of a good team with the addition on a few forwards and backs.

Don't need to go back to sqaure 1 year and do a clear out with that kind of quality on the list.

Sorry for that I presume you know that bennell, fyfe and Neale is the core player and star player. Apart from that sheriden and co is 24 next years isnt it. No way I want bennell to go , that is the most crazy thing you think if me.

 

[kingswood71]

I don't really know now kingswood71 , never expect our over reliance with our star player is that bad until now. Take Sandi ,fyfe , Walters , pav out our list of player is pretty bad. Exclude player with less than 40 afl matches.

I agree with this essentially. Except that we dont know just how good Weller/AP/Grey/Langdon/Blakely/Hughes/Crozier/Tabs (and a couple of others) can be. We wont ever know unless they get game time.

 

[meima]

I agree with this essentially. Except that we dont know just how good Weller/AP/Grey/Langdon/Blakely/Hughes/Crozier/Tabs (and a couple of others) can be. We wont ever know unless they get game time.

I hope you understand that I really hope we play kids more , but if we going to bring suban back to mix with kids what is the point.if we can I will upgrade Smith , uebergang ,nyhuis and deluca now to send them in and tell them this is afl standard you want it fight for it ,if not ask for delisted end of the season good for both parties.

 

[kingswood71]

I hope you understand that I really hope we play kids more , but if we going to bring suban back to mix with kids what is the point.

Sorry but I am confused now
First you are saying that against top sides we should be playing the experienced blokes like MDB/Gu/Suban, then now you are questioning why?

 

[meima]

Sorry but I am confused now
First you are saying that against top sides we should be playing the experienced blokes like MDB/Gu/Suban, then now you are questioning why?

Sorry for confusion what I am trying to said is pure kids or pure footsoldiers( suban , d.Pearce, C.Pearce) in the team. no mixture of both .

 

[MadDocker]

I think you need a mixture of both. Need some foot soldiers to look after the kids a bit and direct traffic etc.

Can still be heavily weighted to youth though.

 

[kingswood71]

Sorry for confusion what I am trying to said is pure kids or pure footsoldiers( suban , d.Pearce, C.Pearce) in the team. no mixture of both .

We agree then
Season pretty much shanked now....May as well invest games into the future players at the club. If Suban plays, role him as a tagger like Crowley was. Its probably the only real use he would have.

 

[Vince in Tassie]

To say you've had a rather crap season is a bit of an understatement.
To have to play Adelaide at home is also not easy.
That said, you'll probably beat them.
Good luck....

 

[Rion]

Don't think we can afford to be too drastic. If all of Fyfe, Johnno and Ballas are injured we will be missing 5/6 of our top 10. We currently are playing 7 players under 50 games, as much as the clueless media deny it we are already playing alot of youngsters. We need to balance the youth with some experienced bodies or we turn into Melbourne. I'd go
Out: Fyfe, Johnno, Ballas,
In: Blakely, Ibbo, Deboer/Mundy (if fit)

Hopefully see Clarke rucking the majority of the game, if he doesn't perform hope to never see him in purple again.

 

[MadDocker]

Might not be a popular opinion, but, I wouldn't be rushing Mundy back. If he's still in anyway suffering and not just 100%, why would you risk him?

 

[meima]

Adelaide match let Mundy ,Mayne ,deboer (without his friend gu, suban and c.pearce he should shine) lead the kids.

 

[meima]

Might not be a popular opinion, but, I wouldn't be rushing Mundy back. If he's still in anyway suffering and not just 100%, why would you risk him?

Risk him we don't have choice anywhere.