Prediction Changes: Round 18 Vs Bulldogs + pre-match discussion

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tacopavlich

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Think we've forgotten what its like to have depth.

Good players miss out, it sucks for them but you dont win flags with only 22 players.

If Logue and Conca are fit they play
True except that Logue for 1 game after being out for so long is highly unlikely to outperform anyone we take out. Long term sure he is best 22 but round 18 against the dogs seems it would be far more beneficial to reward the players with continuity when none are deserving to be dropped from last week.
 

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BlueE

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Menelgola says Hi! Peter Bell as well, but he did play 2 games kicking two goals with his first two kicks, before we booted a double premiership player for being too slow.

Sorry didn't know you were the boss of everything. At least the mob down the road has given same vintage possibles, Hammer and Foley games before deciding.
 
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TheLastCall

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I think Conca will be in. Probably out an unlucky Watson, I’d prefer Hill out.
Logue unlucky not to be in.

I’d also like to see
Valente for Fredrick
Meeks for Lobb

Love North also to get a game, but can’t see it happening. Suspect he’ll join the list of delisted players to never play a game.
 

freoextra

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Yeah and he sounds like he expects to be picked as well, so likely the only change.

I personally would have no issue if Fredericks or Crowden were dropped based on recent form but I just dont see it happening.

Having said that, it would be a disappointment if Colyer got a game just because we already know what he brings (happy for him to get games next year based on form).
 

Purple_Turtle

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For the Dogs to use them as the example as they're the team I'm proposing this concept for as my view is they have the personnel to execute it.

I'd be using Naughton and English on either wing. Hunter I'd personally use off half-back, and I'm not convinced he would be much if any less effective. If that clearly didn't work, I'd push him across half-forward. And ultimately he could be used in either spot depending on where the need is greater, and I feel like he'd still be effective.

Then deeper in the front half I'd be using JUH once drafted. With JUH surrounded by smalls and mediums. With a view towards recruiting a genuine number one ruck.

In the meantime Schache and Trengove would probably be forced while suboptimal to be the key forward and ruckman respectively, had this setup been used this year.

Bruce I'd personally be looking to switch to be a key defender as he has the 1v1 strength, height but most importantly reads it well enough and is a strong contested mark which suggests to me as with the likes of Josh Walker and Liam Jones among others to make that transition, Bruce could similarly carve out a role for himself, and prove an upgrade for the Dogs.
What's the odds of the Bulldogs using Knightmare's big brained gameplan this week?
 

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The Bulldogs midfield is crazy stacked, it makes you wonder why they haven't won more games. Then you look at their forwards and defence, that's where they are lacking. Best midfield group in the comp though. It's a strange list profile.

I agree with having Schultz/Crowden go to Daniel who creates a lot of their play from half back. I think we can definitely expose them down back with Lobb, Tabs and Hogan on a dry day. That's if we can get it in there enough, I'm looking forward to seeing how Cerra, Brayshaw and Serong can handle the Dog's mids. Interesting game, they probably need to win to make finals but we'll be attacking it hard to end the season with momentum. I think this game has always been won by the home team for the past 5 years or so, I can see this going right to the wire on neutral ground.

I am amped for it actually. Really hope we hit it hard. Our wins against Saints, Collingwood & Melbourne plus good showings against Port and Richmond indicate we should have a good chance if we are switched on.
 

wayToGo_

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Yeah but they played witches hats :) Also, Freo dont get much time on that show. I live in hope every week but we barely rate a mention most weeks.
Will be an interesting battle. Freo's midfield was #1 for pressure last time I checked (we've changed a fair bit from the days of Sandi, Fyfe, Neale and Barlow in the middle). I actually think this game could rely greatly on whether the Dog's players get away with throwing the ball or not. Either way our mids need to try and block the quick handballs and get them bombing it on the boot instead. If we let them get the ball to the outside too often it's going to be hard on our back line to stem the flow.

Sam McClure has tipped us by 1 so looks like we're ****ed.
 

rubydoomsday

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Are you related to North? He is well down the pecking order I’m afraid. Bailey Banfield is ahead of him and 100% likely to be delisted so the writing is on the wall for North. Valente is ahead of him also and been emergency the past 3-4 weeks. Valente would be close this week but will likely miss out with players like Conca and Logue potentially squeezed in. I would like them to find a spot for Valente to give him a taste but he will need to wait. I’m not sure what the thinking is on Meek - ie whether he is up to it or not. I feel he will get delisted and moved to rookie list.

North no chance and not even a discussion point.
Re: Meek, don't know how I feel about that - what do we do when Darcy is injured?

Yes, Lobb *can* ruck but it doesn't mean he should; we lose a tall I50 and great contested mark every time he's at the bounce, plus he's too light in the body to ever compete against the really big units like NicNat, Gawn, Witts.

Meek could still have use. Who else is a true/dedicated ruck in our list besides Darcy?
 

theGav56

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Re: Meek, don't know how I feel about that - what do we do when Darcy is injured?

Yes, Lobb *can* ruck but it doesn't mean he should; we lose a tall I50 and great contested mark every time he's at the bounce, plus he's too light in the body to ever compete against the really big units like NicNat, Gawn, Witts.

Meek could still have use. Who else is a true/dedicated ruck in our list besides Darcy?
Lobb's importance as a forward is structural, but Taberner and Hogan should be able to form enough of a core for our forward line to function well enough.
 

rubydoomsday

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Lobb's importance as a forward is structural, but Taberner and Hogan should be able to form enough of a core for our forward line to function well enough.
I still think there are gonna be matchups where a dedicated, specialist ruck has more value. Otherwise our mids have to change how they set up for centre clearances situations where Lobb's more likely to get monstered. I don't know how we cover for when Darcy's out.
 

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