Changes v Adelaide

[Doggy]

Jack might as well buy his own one the way he’s going.

And take his own football to each game

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

And take his own football to each game

He already does, doesn't he?

 

[Libba39]

Well, I think it is sensible to have Adams and Morris resume through the VFL. Both have missed lots of footy. With Adelaide's outs and some wet weather, I don't know what to think of this game. Could be a shocker to watch, but I think we would all take an ugly win.

Reports say that Morris has been training at full tilt for two weeks. I reckon he'll come in.

In: Morris , Wood
Out: Naughton, Webb

 

[Doggy]

Reports say that Morris has been training at full tilt for two weeks. I reckon he'll come in.

In: Morris , Wood
Out: Naughton, Webb

Beveridge is lieing then?

 

[Tommycash]

Reports say that Morris has been training at full tilt for two weeks. I reckon he'll come in.

In: Morris , Wood
Out: Naughton, Webb

I also thought he'd come in, I was just saying what was in the story though. I don't think it has been posted, but see below:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-17/skipper-back-but-dogs-veteran-set-for-vfl
"Injury-prone key defender Marcus Adams will join Morris in the Footscray side to play Werribee in his return from ankle ligament damage picked up in the pre-season.

While he suggested there would be more than one change to the side that defeated Brisbane in round eight, senior coach Luke Beveridge said Wood would be a definite inclusion against the Crows and the club would take a cautious approach with Morris.

...

"(Easton) will come in for Aaron, and there might be another change or two," Beveridge said on Thursday morning.

"(Dale) has been out for a while with the nature of the injury, and it doesn't matter what you go through in your rehab, you can't quite replicate that match-day intensity.

"We didn't feel we'd be doing the right thing by him by rushing him back.

"It was tempting, but he'll play VFL footy."

Versatile talls Jordan Roughead and Jackson Trengove will also be considered to help Tom Boyd counter the Crows' star ruckman Sam Jacobs."

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Beveridge is lieing then?

Luke Beveridge: "There might be another change or two, but I hope you'll let me reserve my right until the side is released at the end of the day..."

 

[Doggy]

Luke Beveridge: "There might be another change or two, but I hope you'll let me reserve my right until the side is released at the end of the day..."

read my response to Libba

 

[Mofra]

Reports say that Morris has been training at full tilt for two weeks. I reckon he'll come in.

In: Morris , Wood
Out: Naughton, Webb

Not according to this:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-17/skipper-back-but-dogs-veteran-set-for-vfl

EASTON Wood will return from a hamstring injury for the Western Bulldogs in Friday night's clash with Adelaide at the Adelaide Oval.

While the captain will play his first game since the round six win over Carlton, veteran defender Dale Morris will resume through the VFL in his return from a partially torn ACL sustained at training in February.

Injury-prone key defender Marcus Adams will join Morris in the Footscray side to play Werribee in his return from ankle ligament damage picked up in the pre-season.

 

[Werewolf]

Really concerning for Trengove if he still can't get a game with Naughton, Adams, Roberts and Collins injured or out of form

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Trengrove would be far better than Young. Not ready.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

I’m not sure why we would move Cordy out of defence. Really he is just about a ten year lock on the 2nd/3rd tall defensive position.

In my mind he shares some Glenn Archer traits, tough and aggressive with a team first attitude.

Remember his first game against Norf he came on late as a substitute and he laid a great run down tackle on someone (similar to the Callum Mills GF first goal) and I was thinking we got the good brother here (apologies to Ayce )!

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

For mine wood and Morris come in, can’t see either playing through the 2s

Trengove is the other one, does Bev give him an extra week? He has mentioned in the past that we tend to give guys that extra week.

As for schache he’s 20, yes he’s kicked 6 goals in the past 2 week. It’s ok to keep a young tall developing in the VFL, let him keep gaining experience against guys his own age.

DON’T rush him

Especially as Clarko is getting the rules changed for him! We should bring him in against the Hawks to see if Stratton and co try blocking him.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Well, I think it is sensible to have Adams and Morris resume through the VFL. Both have missed lots of footy. With Adelaide's outs and some wet weather, I don't know what to think of this game. Could be a shocker to watch, but I think we would all take an ugly win.

I would settle for a win as ugly as an Adelaide crowd!

 

[TedDougChris]

I would settle for a win as ugly as an Adelaide crowd!

Now that I no longer live there, I can like this post...

 

[Mofra]

Really concerning for Trengove if he still can't get a game with Naughton, Adams, Roberts and Collins injured or out of form

We seem set on playing him as a ruck/forward but even then I'd like him in the team this week.

We look much more dangerous with Boyd forward, Trengove would facilitate this.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

We seem set on playing him as a ruck/forward but even then I'd like him in the team this week.

We look much more dangerous with Boyd forward, Trengove would facilitate this.

From the limited vision I have seen of Trengove playing for us I would prefer Roughead in the team playing ruck as he can take a good grab around the ground.
Trengove just looks really ordinary in all aspects of the game.

 

[Doggy]

We seem set on playing him as a ruck/forward but even then I'd like him in the team this week.

We look much more dangerous with Boyd forward, Trengove would facilitate this.

Likely Roughy or Trengove

 

[Doggy]

I'm hearing Moz is in.

ACL tear (partial but still) and returns before the bye. This man is not the same species as the rest of us.

Beveridge said VFL earlier?

 

[Dogsman16]

We seem set on playing him as a ruck/forward but even then I'd like him in the team this week.

We look much more dangerous with Boyd forward, Trengove would facilitate this.

Makes no sense playing him in this role when we should be pumping games into English. English and Boyd have proven to be the future of the ruck/forward roles for the club.

I don’t dislike Trengrove as a player but I hated the acquisition, when we all knew he wasn’t a substantial enough upgrade in any position on the park to be a significant player for us.

 

[Scary_Foot_9]

Beveridge said VFL earlier?

Yeah my source got too excited. Stitched me up a treat.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Roughead was on the plane

 

[murphy2bedabest]

I agree if he’s not playing well enough or there’s not the right role then he shouldn’t play.

I don’t buy he’s not physically capable when he’s in his 3rd year and has been able to play 27 games at that level already and we’re also happy to play Naughton and Young in key positions at a younger age (as we also did with Cordy).

2018 is an important year but I don’t think you’re disagreeing so much on that in saying it’s a write off - i interpret that more as saying not expecting senior games. I can live with that although I’d prefer him to be playing a few this year.

As for 2020/21 that seems a bit long. 2020 would be his 5th year of football - but if you’re saying that’s when you want him consistently performing not just starting to get games then again I can live with that.

2020/21 is where this team is building towards.

Think hawks 08 then 13-15, I personally believe that’s when we will see this side at its absolute best.

That’s about 60 potential games development for guys like English, Naughton and Richards. Macrae and the Bont with another 60 games then that’s Boyd and potentially schache with 30-60 extra games.

They are your early draft picks, that if all get right are your key pillars.

McLean
Lipinski
Dale
Dunkley
Williams
Cordy
Gowers
Young
Have all shown they could be 150-200 game players

 

[Mofra]

Makes no sense playing him in this role when we should be pumping games into English. English and Boyd have proven to be the future of the ruck/forward roles for the club.

I don’t dislike Trengrove as a player but I hated the acquisition, when we all knew he wasn’t a substantial enough upgrade in any position on the park to be a significant player for us.

English looked cooked against the Suns.
He's doing well as a 20 year old ruck to have even debuted, developing him for a few weeks in the VFL isn't going to hurt him.
He's 207cm, clearly a long term player and we don't want to 'Josh Fraser' him into the ground too early.

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Now that I no longer live there, I can like this post...

I remember back in the day when the Bears first came into the competition someone said that they were going to lose to Footscray at the Western Oval because they were used to seeing beautiful people up on the Gold Coast and would be frightened by the faces in the crowd!

Harsh but true!

 

[Dogsman16]

English looked cooked against the Suns.
He's doing well as a 20 year old ruck to have even debuted, developing him for a few weeks in the VFL isn't going to hurt him.
He's 207cm, clearly a long term player and we don't want to 'Josh Fraser' him into the ground too early.

I agree. Hence we have Roughead and Campbell to fill this role when it gets to that stage. Not Trengrove.