Changes v Bombers

[Tex200]

Don't forget also that B Crouch's 31 disposal game the week prior was playing loose across half back.

I suspect he moved to the mids this week and consequently ran out of puff from all accounts.

 

[Damp Squarie]

Brad Crouch has spent so long on the sidelines this year, both in the season proper and pre-season, that we seriously need to take our time with him. It would be a bad move to bring him in this week - he'd be way off pace still, which does us no favours as a team, and puts him at a higher risk of injury. I do not see it happening, regardless of his SANFL tribunal result.

Martin showed great energy/hustle coming off the bench. Missed a goal he should have kicked, but the other 3 were far from gimmes (took the best option by having a shot, but all were low-percentage). Otherwise, he was very good, and bounced back well from a horror game last week. 10 touches and 4 shots on goal from 30% gametime is good stuff. I don't mind him as a 'supersub' type player, as he plays with heart and tries to fire up the rest of the side. I just hated seeing him come in for a week, get the vest, and get dropped over and over. Poor use of the player, and the vest. I'd be happy for us to leave him in.

Jenkins flat out deserves to be dropped. Kicked an arsey goal, and another good one (seconds after completely fluffing an easy mark in a better position), but he just failed to use his body all day. If injury is to blame for this, he should not be playing. If your key forwards aren't jumping at the ball and attacking the contest, they are not doing their job. Allowing his opponent to take contested marks against him, and easily clear the ball, is very poor and shows a lack of brains or effort. Or both. It means that our small forwards are deprived of opportunities they might otherwise get. It means the opposition have an easier time setting up their attacking plays. It's unacceptable. His forward pressure is deplorable, too. He simply does not try to win his own ball. He even got a bronx cheer from the crowd after finally taking a grab in the 3rd (not that I agree with this conduct). It's great that he can kick goals on the run, but Charlie Cameron can do that too, while actually tackling and pressuring the opposition. Jenkins needs to bring other things to the side if he's going to play as a key forward. He doesn't need to take as many contested grabs as Pods, but he does need to jump at the bloody ball. Right now, he very much deserves to be dropped. He's very lucky we need him to help our Jacobs (and that McKernan is such an unattractive option).

I was surprised we brought Matt Crouch back in, despite his good SANFL game. I think he can still learn things in the SANFL. But I hate seeing inexperienced guys come in for a game, get the vest, and then get dropped so I'd leave him in the side. At the very least, he showed plenty of effort and grunt. North have a solid midfield, though, and he was definitely outbodied more often than not, and found himself second to the ball. 7 tackles shows good spirit in the face of this, however. Very good signs.

Lairdy struggled to go with Boomer, but I didn't actually think he did too badly, despite Harvey's stats. I don't think Laird has had a great season, but he always shows plenty of heart. Leave him in.

Unchanged, Cameron is unlucky this week. Give him a run in the SANFL to get him hungry. Kerridge to stay in the forwardlines, with no Watson to tag. Bring Charlie in for the showdown, and move Kerridge back into a tagging role, with Martin and/or Crouch (or someone else that gets injured/plays a stinker) to make way.

Excellent post Dandy!

 

[eurodono]

Vs Essendon

B Brown Talia Rutten
HB Reilly Otten Jaensch
C Smith Dangerfield Sloane
HF Cameron Podsiadly Douglas
F Betts Walker Jenkins
1R Jacobs Kerridge Thompson
INT Mackay Laird Wright Henderson (SUB)

INS Henderson Cameron
OUTS Martin M Crouch

Vs Port

B Brown Talia Rutten
HB Henderson Otten Jaensch
C Smith Dangerfield Sloane
HF Cameron Podsiadly Douglas
F Betts Walker Lynch
1R Jacobs Kerridge Thompson
INT Jenkins Mackay Laird B Crouch (SUB)

INS B Crouch Lynch
OUTS Wright Reilly

 

[Pweter]

Truck has earned first go at Daniher, however if that doesn't come off, I reckon Pods could be a useful swingman to take that job if Truck is getting towelled up. You would sub Truck and bring on some pace in the subs vest

This would be an interesting matchup. In a 1:1 contest Rutten will smash Daniher based on strength and smarts. If Daniher gets on the move he'll get on top of Rutten.

having said that, I think it's a matchup that'll favour you guys as our midfield have a habit of lobbing the ball on our forwards head (or over it) rather than putting it out in front.

 

[DangerSloane]

Outs M Crouch, B Martin

In B Crouch, C Cameron

L Brown or R Laird have an extra week to convince the coaching staff to stay in the 22 when Hendo comes back.

You mean B Reilly right?
If either of those two get dropped before Reilly I will go barrack for someone else.

Laird was good last night, and Brown has been good all year.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Vs Port

B Brown Talia Rutten
HB Henderson Otten Jaensch
C Smith Dangerfield Sloane
HF Cameron Podsiadly Douglas
F Betts Walker Lynch
1R Jacobs Kerridge Thompson
INT Jenkins Mackay Laird B Crouch (SUB)

INS B Crouch Lynch
OUTS Wright Reilly

Like your moves a lot.

Think you'll find if we are to play Pods, Walker, Lynch, Jenkins that Tommy Lynch will play a very high half forward (maybe alternating that role with Pods).

 

[Kraven]

This would be an interesting matchup. In a 1:1 contest Rutten will smash Daniher based on strength and smarts. If Daniher gets on the move he'll get on top of Rutten.

having said that, I think it's a matchup that'll favour you guys as our midfield have a habit of lobbing the ball on our forwards head (or over it) rather than putting it out in front.

Its the same with our midfield. My girlfriend goes for the bombers so I tend to watch a lot of Bombers games. And I think both teams play very alike. Should be a great game.

 

[beartoo]

I thought Laird did okay as a tagger. Boomer had about 12 of his 32 in the last q when it was all done and dusted. Laird curbed his influence before that. I like Kedge floating around that half forward line. Golden boot!
He is a great anchor.

 

[King Elvis]

Jenkins has been pathetic the last fortnight - he's playing like he's soft.

For all of Tippett's faults, he was a competitive beast and he attacked the contest with incredible ferocity. Jenkin's plays like a big, soft flanker; even Mackay goes harder at the contest than him these days.

I wouldn't drop him, but I'd be very bluntly telling him to extract his head from his anus.

 

[dylan123]

And that is not matthew Jaensch.

He is a good stop gap player in a bottom 8 side and yes he's having his best season but I don't see him have that much more improvement.

Henderson and VB would be my pick for now.

I don't believe Jaensch needs anymore improvement, to me, it's about whether he can maintain this for the rest of the year/future seasons. If so, I'd very happily have him in the 22.

Whilst VB might beat him defensively, Jaensch is a hell of a lot better defensively, him and Hendo on either side of the backline gives us plenty of run coming out of the backline which is what we lacked last year until Hendo had that role. Think two of them together is the way to go like Jaensch and Smith this year as it gives us another option to get the ball into the hands of and harder for the opposition to stop two guys in the backline.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No way you drop Pods in atrocious conditions. He is our best KPF at bringing the ball to the ground, marking or killing the ball over the boundary line. All assets you need in atrocious conditions

Then JJ would probably make way.

Silly to go in with Tex, JJ, Pods & Lynch if conditions are atrocious - better off playing another small.

 

[Paladin]

Crouchy has been offered one week by the SANFL. Unsure if we will contest but doubtful I would think.

Looks like he can spend all weekend running laps.

 

[Skippy231]

Crouchy has been offered one week by the SANFL. Unsure if we will contest but doubtful I would think.

Looks like he can spend all weekend running laps.

Would there be any harm in contesting it? Does he have the possibility of getting it upped to two matches? If not then we are stupid not to at least try

 

[Stinger...]

To allow you all to prepare correctly, you will be happy to know that Number 2 will not be officiating us this week.

Bad news is...Razor Ray and Number 30, McInerney are

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Crouch incident labelled 'intentional, high contact, low impact'…sounds like there's no chance he will get off his one week offer. What an idiot

This really affects how we stagger our inclusions over the coming weeks.

If Crouch was ready this week it could've been Crouch, Cameron with Lynch and Hendo (as sub) returning v Port.

Now it could go:

v Essendon: Cameron
v Port: Lynch, Crouch (maybe as sub).
v GWS: Henderson.

 

[Jack is Back]

We will not win the flag this year.
We will not make the last four.
We are unlikely to even limp into 8th position.

Our top priority at selection this year must be to focus on getting our next group of players up to 50 games.

Namely, Charlie (4 games), Matty C - 7, Kylie - 10, Brad C - 16, Sam K - 24, Rory Laird - 28, Lynchy - 32, Luke B - 36, JJ - 38.

Will we be closer to a flag if we give some or all of the last 10 games to Truck, JPod, Radar, Brodie M, Pets, Porps, Gus?
I have no problem playing JPod until Lynchy returns but then that's it. Truck has been just O.K. on the oppositions third tall but he is hardly the difference between a win and a loss (and so what if we finish with 11 wins instead of 12).

Any posts suggesting we drop Brown or Laird and leave in Reilly and/or Jaensch - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we drop JJ or Lynch and leave JPod in the team - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we leave Charlie in the SANFL and play Brodie Martin, Wrighty or Porps - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting the Crouch boys and Hendo need another month in the SANFL - Instant Red Card

Depending on injuries, we also need to give games to CEY, Jarryd Lyons, Mitch Grigg and possibly the RAT.

Do we want to win a flag or continue to be average because there's nothing worse in life than being ordinary.

 

[Bailey01]

We will not win the flag this year.
We will not make the last four.
We are unlikely to even limp into 8th position.

Our top priority at selection this year must be to focus on getting our next group of players up to 50 games.

Namely, Charlie (4 games), Matty C - 7, Kylie - 10, Brad C - 16, Sam K - 24, Rory Laird - 28, Lynchy - 32, Luke B - 36, JJ - 38.

Will we be closer to a flag if we give some or all of the last 10 games to Truck, JPod, Radar, Brodie M, Pets, Porps, Gus?
I have no problem playing JPod until Lynchy returns but then that's it. Truck has been just O.K. on the oppositions third tall but he is hardly the difference between a win and a loss (and so what if we finish in 11 wins instead of 12).

Any posts suggesting we drop Brown or Laird and leave in Reilly and/or Jaensch - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we drop JJ or Lynch and leave JPod in the team - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we leave Charlie in the SANFL and play Brodie Martin, Wrighty or Porps - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting the Crouch boys and Hendo need another month in the SANFL - Instant Red Card

Depending on injuries, we also need to give games to CEY, Jarryd Lyons, Mitch Grigg and possibly the RAT.

Do we want to be a flag or continue to be average because there's nothing worse in life than being ordinary.

We could easily make 12 wins which would get us in 8th position if Gold Coast get 12 wins too.

 

[eurodono]

Like your moves a lot.

Think you'll find if we are to play Pods, Walker, Lynch, Jenkins that Tommy Lynch will play a very high half forward (maybe alternating that role with Pods).

yeah very true. Like him in that high half forward role. He is almost like another midfielder when he is up and about.

Unfortunately my plan with B Crouch as a sub for the Showdown is out the window with his suspension. M Crouch or M Wright comes in now.

One day we will be full strength

 

[Southerntakeover]

I can remember a time when similar criticisms to those which are being applied to Jenkins were applied to Walker. The 'worlds tallest crumber' stuff. Now he's a competitive physical beast. That gives me hope for Jenkins.

I think the answer is more straight forward than him being 'soft' or anything of the sort. He's had success using his best attribute, his speed, in turning his defender and outrunning them to goal. Now he's trying to do it too often. He's still incredibly raw, the coaching staff just need to work with him and teach him that he'll still get a share of those sorts of goals from time to time, because his athleticism will demand it, but that they'll actually come more freely if his defender has to honour him as a traditional key forward too. Teach him how to use his size. It won't come naturally to him because his background isn't football.

 

[Jack is Back]

We could easily make 12 wins which would get us in 8th position if Gold Coast get 12 wins too.

Yes we "could" and I guess that would justify pumping games into Truck, Jpod, Radar etc?

No it doesn't.

Perhaps some of the developing players I named above would be much closer to 50 games if we hadn't wasted games on Dogga (no we didn't win the flag in 2012), Stiffy, Callinan, Porps, Bling etc.

"The Adelaide Football Club, we love to be ordinary"

 

[Bay62]

Brad Crouch gets offered one week suspension.

Dammit

 

[TheLeftFist8]

One more week until the 4 tall forward mystery is solved (touch wood no injuries)...

In terms of Best 22 the clear ins are Hendo, Jetts, Lynch, B Crouch. (Otten is holding his spot, so it's either Rutten or Hartigan as a separate discussion).

For the 4 inclusions there are only 2 obvious outs (despite both playing ok this week), that being Reilly and Martin.

That leaves Jaensch, Laird, Wright, JPod and MCrouch fighting for the last 2 spots, assuming the form of Jenkins and Douglas doesn't nose dive any further. In reality, Matt Crouch would be first to go right now though he will likely get one more week to prove otherwise.

That brings us to the structural questions and the famed yet never seen 4 tall forwards! In reality, Lynch whilst slow has massive running capacity and can play high HF/wing/midfield so that's probably the answer. Wright may be the unlucky one to go next for Lynch, with JPod remaining until he gets a planned rest if required.

The final spot then goes to a 7th defender: Laird v Jaensch.

 

[Roo Lives Again]

Agree. Thought Brown was good last night. Laird was well beaten but he has a good year to date.

Boomer Harvey has been towelling everyone up this year. He destroyed Crowley over at Pattersons so people should go easy on Laird

 

[Southerntakeover]

Brad Crouch gets offered one week suspension.

Dammit

I guess at the least we can absolutely flog him on the track for a week.

 

[Archie87]

We will not win the flag this year.
We will not make the last four.
We are unlikely to even limp into 8th position.

Our top priority at selection this year must be to focus on getting our next group of players up to 50 games.

Namely, Charlie (4 games), Matty C - 7, Kylie - 10, Brad C - 16, Sam K - 24, Rory Laird - 28, Lynchy - 32, Luke B - 36, JJ - 38.

Will we be closer to a flag if we give some or all of the last 10 games to Truck, JPod, Radar, Brodie M, Pets, Porps, Gus?
I have no problem playing JPod until Lynchy returns but then that's it. Truck has been just O.K. on the oppositions third tall but he is hardly the difference between a win and a loss (and so what if we finish with 11 wins instead of 12).

Any posts suggesting we drop Brown or Laird and leave in Reilly and/or Jaensch - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we drop JJ or Lynch and leave JPod in the team - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting we leave Charlie in the SANFL and play Brodie Martin, Wrighty or Porps - Instant Red Card
Any posts suggesting the Crouch boys and Hendo need another month in the SANFL - Instant Red Card

Depending on injuries, we also need to give games to CEY, Jarryd Lyons, Mitch Grigg and possibly the RAT.

Do we want to win a flag or continue to be average because there's nothing worse in life than being ordinary.

Top post

If we do the above and still make 8th then great. Go us. BUT our club needs to stop believing a respectable 6-9th finish is acceptable. If we continue to play the likes of Pods/Reilly just to try and come 8th when we have Hendo, the Crouch boys, Grigg, Lynch, Lyons and even CEY/Atkins then there is something wrong. I’d much rather play these types, get games into them and come 11th than play Reilly/Pods and be “also-rans” in the bottom half of the top 8. We’d at least get a good draft pick out of it, which as Hawks/Port have shown, is key to getting in the talent required to climb up the ladder.