Prediction Changes v Bombers

[avishka5]

prepping myself for Willie's cumback.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

prepping myself for Willie's cumback.

and nelson's...

 

[Coasters7]

It's because we're soft we leave ourselves open on a wider ground.

Hawthorn game we allowed a lot of odd man events (2 on 1s, 3 on 2s), and they beat us consistantly when they created those events. Odd man events in any sport come from players being out of position, which is generally a combination of not thinking about where you need to be, and fatigue.

On the former point, the difference in the distance between the centre square and boundary at the MCG and Subi may cause a player to think they are in the right sport (ie just off the square) when they need to be 5m closer to the boundary. That's a coaching issue if the players are using ground markings to determine where they should be in relation to the ball, and a player mentality issue if they just can't get their head around that they need to close down the wing more.

On the latter (which I suspect was more the case), players need to cover a lot more ground laterally at the G to shut down the space, which can lead to mids getting tired if there is a reliance on the same 6 or 7 guys. The Hawks domination in previous years was built around the fact that literally anyone aside from tall defenders could run through the middle at some stage. This meant there was a lot more players available to 'go' when it was their turn, and more opportunity for true mids to 'rest' on the field in forward or back pockets. The doggies last year exhibited this level of versatility down the stretch, basically playing with far fewer traditional talls than any other team. WCE are kidding themselves if they think they are at this level.

What we do have are exceptional talls which are great for a long kicking transition game straight up the guts. Which is why every time we slow our transition by running back from the mark it screws us. But that strength creates a weakness because those same talls (Kennedy, Darling, Naitanui, Lycett, Barrass, McGovern) do not relieve the midfielders on the big wide ground.

We have been trying this lately. Most of our half forwards and backs are getting time through the midfield. Cripps, lecras, hill have all been getting a turn lately. Even saw darling start up the ground a little the other night. It's slowly coming together and I think we're almost there. A decent ruck would obviously make a huge difference to us competing in the middle. Wait till Mitchell is roving nic nats taps. Our only weekness seems to be priddis. He looks like he's lost the ability to affect must inside and that is his only real attribute. Time to start bringing in a few young guys

 

[Jandamarra]

Father in law the dean once had Jacks dad front him complaining that Jack was getting bullied. At the time Jack was a foot and a half taller and wider than anyone else in the school.

Thats pretty sad ;-;

 

[Farang83150]

Really looking fwd to seeing Rioli in the side in a few weeks.

 

[Lolbert]

vardy has been solid enough, mcinnes was ok, but i think both are more capable than, and should be played ahead of petrie

redden is quite disappointing and very frustrating to watch, he rarely adds any value to a play, at best he'll do the average things ok, but is weak under pressure and rather error prone

hilly's defensive pressure was terrific on friday, loved his effort

darling's diving is quite embarrassing and i hate seeing it, get to the contest ffs. coxy had a bad habit of doing the aeroplane arms towards the end of his career also, though not as bad as goodesy.

how about a darling for mcgovern jnr trade at season's end?

I've been dirt on Redden since his arrival, but have been keeping my eye on him in the last couple games. Does a lot of stuff off the ball and his defensive work, particularly his positioning and assisting the defensive set up behind him is top notch. He is clearly playing off a set of simple instructions and while he hasn't replicated his form at the Lions, I like the work he's doing

 

[Brolga]

So far there are quite a number our expert forum contributors mentioning about the WCE Web/Zone defence. It will be nice if someone starts a new thread about AFL Zone strategies including:
1. What is a zone.
2. How many types (eg. Hawthron rotating zone); who is adopting the type?
3. The pros and cons of these different type.
4. Why the zone defence adopted by Fremantle is relatively independent of ground size?
5. Etc etc.

This is dangerous talk! That would be approaching journalism if it came from mainstream media. Can't go having that now...

 

[EagleEgo]

This is dangerous talk! That would be approaching journalism if it came from mainstream media. Can't go having that now...

Those information are essential for footy fans who want to enjoy more. The enjoyment of watching footy is not just seeing players taking high marks, contest for possession, tackling; but also how the coaches deploy their troop to get the 4 points.

 

[SloppyJoe]

I hope Jack watched Couch last night and has a bit of a look at himself.

I was hoping he would do that after the flak he copped for staging in that Heath Scotland tackle a few years back.

I hoped again after the 2015 GF, then again after the 2016 EF.

Despite all the scrutiny surrounding these events, each time with there being some puff piece about Jack sorting his issues out, nothing he has put up this year shows that he has addressed these issues.

I am not saying he should be dropped because he is still a good contributor (although dropping him at some stage might be worth a shot just to try something different). I am just bitterly disappointed because he could do so much better.

Whatever happens, I fear that in the umpires' eyes he is now permanently branded as the boy who cried wolf, with the result being that he will rarely get the lineball frees that honest players routinely receive. This hurts Jack in 2 ways: (1) less frees and (2) he seem to thinks it means he just needs to stage harder.

Oh, and no changes.

 

[leroyeagle]

Really looking fwd to seeing Rioli in the side in a few weeks.

Same, but NOT looking forward to Bruce spraying superlatives around over another Rioliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii especially now Cyrilllllll is out for 10 weeks!

 

[avishka5]

Same, but NOT looking forward to Bruce spraying superlatives around over another Rioliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii especially now Cyrilllllll is out for 10 weeks!

He'll be throbbing for willie.

 

[eaglesfan84]

darling's diving is quite embarrassing and i hate seeing it, get to the contest ffs. how about a darling for mcgovern jnr trade at season's end?

I'm in favour of this trade.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Putting on my Nostradamus hat and looking at what's likely to play out, starting with tomorrow's extended squad:

In: Cripps, Nelson, Hutchings (or Schofield)
Out: Nil

Extended bench: Cripps, Nelson, Redden, Duggan, Butler, Mutimer, Hutchings (or Schofield)

23 to fly over Friday with Mutimer and Hutchings (or Schofield) left behind. Mutimer might travel as the 24th man if there's any doubt over either Cripps or Nelson, especially since he hasn't had a chance to fly back home to Victoria yet.

Butler to be the other omission from the 22 when squads are cut Friday afternoon.

Both omissions unlucky but if Cripps and Nelson are fit then they're automatic ins and Butler and Mutimer shape as the obvious outs.

Petrie to play for East Perth if he's fit. Willie to play reserves if he's fit.

Let's see how I do.

 

[Monocle]

how much of this is in your mind?

OK then it must just be my imagination....... or not.

 

[Ambrosia]

Oh great a brand new umpire to be overly influenced by the crowd.

From what I saw in the NAB cup she didn't seem the type to be influenced by the crowd and was fairly consistent. Her main bad from what I've seen have been from lacking understanding of the game.

 

[leroyeagle]

From what I saw in the NAB cup she didn't seem the type to be influenced by the crowd and was fairly consistent. Her main bad from what I've seen have been from lacking understanding of the game.

In that case she will fit right in with most of the male umps who have no understanding of the game!

 

[wce4premiership]

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OK then it must just be my imagination....... or not.

That's so horrible to watch. Such a waste of his time and efforts, what the **** actually goes through his mind?

 

[Keys]

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OK then it must just be my imagination....... or not.

Oddly enough that one doesn't unduly bother me because it's not in play as such and plenty of other players do that off the ball to try milk a free. It isn't great but if that's the only situation his head snaps back I can live with it

The ones that shit me are when the balls in play and by exaggerating the contact he goes to ground or otherwise takes himself out of the play. He has to eliminate it from his game and as others have said its disappointing that the coaches haven't made him stop because it's costing the team

 

[RookiePick]

He has to start keeping his feet. It's absolutely essential.

 

[WCErevival]

I noticed on Friday he had an opportunity to stage at one point but he paused for a split second and didn't do it. Made me think they have talked to him about it and he is aware. Just needs to learn to not instinctively try and play for a free.

 

[Xsess]

This game is a sidelight compared to Willies impending return.

A million goals coming up for East Perth

 

[Keys]

This game is a sidelight compared to Willies impending return.

A million goals coming up for East Perth

*reserves

 

[bUCKET__]

Out: the staging, flopping Darling
In: the Darling who keeps his feet and ninja flips

Seriously, he hasn't done a flip in bloody forever. He just wants to disappoint us all.

 

[kerr87]

This game is a sidelight compared to Willies impending return.

A million goals coming up for East Perth

This.

Cannot wait for him to crumb to Kennedy and Darling.

Oh boyyyy wowweeeeee


HF Cripps Darling Duggan/Hill/Venables/Jetta
FF Lecras Kennedy Rioli

 

[Farang83150]

I work 6 wks on 6 off offshore and live OS so miss a fair bit of whats going on, wheres Venables at, is he tracking as well and does it look like he was a good choice, or to early to say?