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Do you think Scott Thompson WILL come in this week?


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My source has been wrong before, but also correct a few times, but he reckons Greenwood is playing.


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So your telling us he may be playing ;) ?
 
Why do we think people are carrying injuries???

FFS, they've rested players who had niggles. Why are they resting them and not others??

People have just played shit. It's not invented injuries.
 
It wasn't particularly prevalent in the first quarter against Richmond either. But luckily the amount of Richmond players appearing on the TV screen when the ball was in dispute diminished from the 2nd quarter onwards.

True, but we absorbed it and kept them within arms reach without completely going into our shells or capitulating. Same with Port, Hawks and GWS.
 
Why do we think people are carrying injuries???

FFS, they've rested players who had niggles. Why are they resting them and not others??

People have just played shit. It's not invented injuries.
Has Charlie even played on the wing since he's been "shit"?
 
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Why do we think people are carrying injuries???

FFS, they've rested players who had niggles. Why are they resting them and not others??

People have just played shit. It's not invented injuries.

Some like to make excuses for certain players my favourite player is one in form don't care who Mackay Menzel Sloane JJ as long as they are playing well which gives us more chance of winning


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Well, I'm going to the Gabba this weekend, so I wont be putting up with any similar rubbish like the last 2 weeks. Lions have 3 of their best out, so really, I expect us to hammer them. In saying that, we are expecting a months worth of rain up here over Friday and Saturday.

Yay:oops:

Of ****ing course! :mad: Reduces the chance of us winning by a blow out margin if indeed we win it. Gives a sucker a chance.:thumbsdown:

booooo! Where's the roof?
 
Of ****ing course! :mad: Reduces the chance of us winning by a blow out margin if indeed we win it. Gives a sucker a chance.:thumbsdown:

booooo! Where's the roof?
I don't mind it. There's no chance of them steamrolling over Brisbane in the wet, they'll have to get in and be hard and win the pill all game.
 
Rewatched the game in triple speed (fast forward) and it's obvious our game plan needs tweaking.

Highly recommend watching games like that if you want to see the forest from the trees. Although I'm sure most of you could see it anyway.

I don't think we're going to be able to turn ourselves into an unsociable gang - we just don't have the personalities. Can we be harder? Absolutely, we need to be.

Pyke needs to start adapting - he's got a decent sample size now.

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Ive been rewatching some games from last year (at regular speed not 3x). Last night i watched the last half of the sydney game in round 4. Mostly the same personnel as now yet they were playing a much harder brand of football in general. None of them were shirking contests. They were all hard at the ball with and tackling hard also. Putting their bodies on the line without issue, as it should be. Even jenkins managed to not look completely soft.

I think they are capable of playing hard brand of footy if not unsociable. For some reason now the toughness and pressure has totally gone. At the moment most of them are playing like they are worried they might get injured and dont want to get dirty on the ground so they just stand there waiting for someone else to get in there. Meanwhile the oppo are diving in head first to get the ball like their lives depended on it.

Even after the north debacle they didnt look revved up. Who knows what can motivate this team. I think only the axe could do it. Worked out alright for the dogs...
 
Apparently it's all in our head says Brown. We dont need to be harder at the ball or more physical
we certainly have to be harder and more physical, but I'm with Browny that it's all in our head.

we've demonstrated the mental application required at times before, but we got the shit kicked out of us down in Tassie and the boys are rattled big time.
 

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Good points, explains a lot about selection last week actually.
And also explains why we need to get games into those guys

The fact that we don't select new players ever unless there's 12 injuries explains why we didn't select any last week. Because they're not experienced enough you see. :tearsofjoy:

I mean seriously, this is just so laughable. Don't try to rationalise it! "Well we've never played these guys before, so we can't start now! Better bring back Menzel and keep Hampton and Mackay in, we know they're shit so let's go with the known quantity rather than taking a punt". Yayyy.

Greenwood should have played last week in place of one of Hampton or Mackay at the very least, that is undeniable.

I agree that nobody else is banging the door down (although Beech was earlier in the season and we refused to select him, instead opting for Troy "4 possessions" Menzel against the Suns I believe it was), but when you've got guys putting out putrid displays, they shouldn't need to be banging it down per se.

We should not be sitting here on the eve of Round 9 2017, with none of Wigg, Greenwood or Beech having ever debuted. There's no defence for it.

The best clubs make statements on selection night and drop underperforming veterans. The best clubs trial their young talent and get them AFL game time before they turn 21. The best clubs respond to criticism about their toughness by making a statement on the field the following week. The best clubs protect their best players when they are tagged.

Until we start taking a page out of that book, we won't be one of the best clubs.
 
The best clubs make statements on selection night and drop underperforming veterans. The best clubs trial their young talent and get them AFL game time before they turn 21. The best clubs respond to criticism about their toughness by making a statement on the field the following week. The best clubs protect their best players when they are tagged.

Until we start taking a page out of that book, we won't be one of the best clubs.
this is so obvious it hurts.

conclusion: we don't want to be one of the best clubs - happy to look after the boys and ward off any major criticism by making up the numbers in the finals.
 
When two of your clubs selection philosophies are "dont change a winning team" and "back the players in after a loss" there's not a lot of wiggle room to make moves.

Lets hope for a draw against brisbane so we can make some changes.
The "back the players in to respond" one is kind of annoying to me. At what point do we stop looking at each instance in isolation and start looking at those performances as a whole and examining who it is that continually underperforms when the going gets tough. Both attitudes kind of stink though, you should always be looking to improve your squad, regardless of a win or a loss.

The biggest worry of course is we win in Brisbane and then they use that as motivation to continue on the same path with the same 25 key blokes again.
 

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My source has been wrong before, but also correct a few times, but he reckons Greenwood is playing.


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The "back the players in to respond" one is kind of annoying to me. At what point do we stop looking at each instance in isolation and start looking at those performances as a whole and examining who it is that continually underperforms when the going gets tough. Both attitudes kind of stink though, you should always be looking to improve your squad, regardless of a win or a loss.

Can't be good for the morale of the squad either. In time it will only generate a dichotomy between favourites and those on the outer.

The favourites will become secure/lazy and those on the outer will see less and less point when they are never rewarded and see the favorites skipping through on mediocre performances.

It's all well and good to pay lip service to "pressure for spots" but unless you reward it it will die and so will the effect it has on driving those in the 22 to put in their best efforts
 
Can't be good for the morale of the squad either. In time it will only generate a dichotomy between favourites and those on the outer.

The favourites will become secure/lazy and those on the outer will see less and less point when they are never rewarded and see the favorites skipping through on mediocre performances.

It's all well and good to pay lip service to "pressure for spots" but unless you reward it it will die and so will the effect it has on driving those in the 22 to put in their best efforts
You've summed up our last decade there :(

We've behaved like a multi-premiership winning unit, cruising along season after season, dripping with undropable legends.
 
Well, I'm going to the Gabba this weekend, so I wont be putting up with any similar rubbish like the last 2 weeks. Lions have 3 of their best out, so really, I expect us to hammer them. In saying that, we are expecting a months worth of rain up here over Friday and Saturday.

Yay:oops:

Hope there wrong with the weather.
My first game for the year and I'm flying Tiger doesn't get in till 5:35 pm.
Hope I'm not in a holding pattern for the whole game.
 

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