Changes v Brisbane

[Tonycam*]

What is wrong with everybody wanting to drop players. We have won 6 straight why change the team around. Only bring in players if another is injured. Not everyone can be outstanding every week. They are all playing their part, and ok we didnt play that great against adelaide but we still won, and it was at aami we needed a hard fought win like that

Dont think there will be much of a change , might be ones due to suspention if they happen. but the only one that could be unlucky to be axed this week is Tenace if any

 

[CatFan79]

Dont think there will be much of a change , might be ones due to suspention if they happen. but the only one that could be unlucky to be axed this week is Tenace if any

Tenace unlucky to be dropped? He was awful and very average last week!

When you have in form players in the 2's its a no-brainer.. He's out!

 

[Ricketts]

Tenace's run is more valuable than his poor skills are de-valuable.
Corey's clearances and winning hard balls are more valuable than his poor skills are de-valuable.
Ottens ruckwork is more valuable than his poor crumbing in the forward line is de-valuable.

etc etc...

Out - Rooke
In - Selwood.

 

[CatFan79]

Tenace's run is more valuable than his poor skills are de-valuable.
Corey's clearances and winning hard balls are more valuable than his poor skills are de-valuable.
Ottens ruckwork is more valuable than his poor crumbing in the forward line is de-valuable.

etc etc...

Out - Rooke
In - Selwood.

I get your point on Corey and Ottens but I just can't recall enough instances where Tenace's run has compensated for his poor skills and awareness. When the pressure is on he falls to pieces.

The good games he has played this season are the ones we've been thrashing our opponents when all the guys are having a good one and we are under no pressure.

Sorry, when it comes to hard, tight finals football Tenace will be a liability.

 

[mainboardboycotter]

Selwood for Rooke (1 week suspension)


Why suggest all these names to be dropped. FFS the Sri Lankan guy suggested Corey should be rested in the two! Exactly how that is being rested I am not too sure but for some reason it is being brought up. Tenace has problems with his disposal but bar yesterday he has been in good form. We have players who have problems with poor disposal at times, but FFS so does every side, we have been very solid bar this week in a game that was scrappy, I don't know why people would be suggesting such drastic changes. Varcoe is a young'un, he is there to pressure in the forward line and use his pace. He does it every game, it is great to watch and is needed. Selwood needs to come back in, too good for the 2s and Prismall is so close. Rooke will get 1 game if unchallenged and Selwood should come in. He could be unlucky again.

 

[turbo0010]

Yeah definitely, how is Tenace ever going to get any better if he doesn't get a real go. Who did hit a target entering the forward 50? probably only ablett. Corey had a shot from straight in front and it went out on the full and we kicked 9.15. I think we can put all the poor disposal down to Adelaide's pressure and the only way players will get better will be by facing it each week and learning from it.

From what I remember, a few years ago, everything Rooke touched turned to s##t, when he was playing in the back pocket. I used to cringe whenever he got the ball, but he got a good go and he's become a solid player.

 

[year of the cat]

I would have thought that with Rooke being suspended that you would replace him with a defender not a midfielder. Hunt is the only replacement for him.

The only other in may be Selwood who evidently was very good in the VFL. I would give Varcoe a break. Stokes is more than adequate in that small forward role and is playing good accountable footy.

Ins: Hunt, Selwood
Outs: Rooke (susp), Varcoe

 

[catempire]

I would have thought that with Rooke being suspended that you would replace him with a defender not a midfielder. Hunt is the only replacement for him.

The only other in may be Selwood who evidently was very good in the VFL. I would give Varcoe a break. Stokes is more than adequate in that small forward role and is playing good accountable footy.

Ins: Hunt, Selwood
Outs: Rooke (susp), Varcoe

Rooke has played as a midfielder-forward lately.

 

[martyk]

Yeah definitely, how is Tenace ever going to get any better if he doesn't get a real go.

Tenace is a 50 game player now, that is 2+ good seasons worth of football at the highest level in 3 and a half seasons??? At one of the best lists in the league. Doesn't get a real go?? You kidding?

Who did hit a target entering the forward 50? probably only ablett. Corey had a shot from straight in front and it went out on the full and we kicked 9.15.

Enright, Corey and Mackie all suffer bad disposal along with Tenace. I genuinely think Tenace's is worse though, terrible kicking action and lacks awareness, and the ability to use his pace in and around contests. Only fast in straight line with a paddock in front.

I think we can put all the poor disposal down to Adelaide's pressure and the only way players will get better will be by facing it each week and learning from it.

Unfortunately kicking generally isn't a skill greatly improved by players throughout their career. Kicking ability is pretty much down to raw talent. There are however plenty of champion players with average disposal who make up for it with good decision making (R.Harvey, J.Hird etc). Tenace lacks both I'm afraid.

Bottom line... Tenace and Byrnes are athletes, not footballers. 5-10+ years ago they wouldn't of got a game in the VFL let alone at AFL level.

 

[Rosso]

Rooke for Selwood is all that's required. There was a few players that had an off match but it was a scrappy, ugly sort of game. Combine that with the fact that the pressure was on from go to wo and there's bound to be a few players down and a lot of errors.

The two's were flogged so there wasn't too many shining lights. Selwood got a heavy knock but came back out and was clearly our best.

Being a Sunday game Selwood, Hunt, Hawkins and DJ will be named.

 

[Seethus]

I think the only definate Change is Selwood or Hunt for Rooke, cos hes definately going to be suspended.

 

[costanza23]

OUT: Rooke, Tenace and Nablett
IN: J. Hunt, Selwood and Hawkins

 

[hoody]

Rooke for Selwood is all that's required.

Being a Sunday game Selwood, Hunt, Hawkins and DJ will be named.

Not a bad emergency list is it?
Roughly speaking, a midfielder, a backman, a forward and a tagger.
It does give the opportunity to cover on a like for like basis if that is the way the selectors want to go.
Rooke will cop his week and I think the only change will be to bring in Selwood.
Leave Tenace, Varcoe (and all those other players suggested in this thread) to play against the Lions.
After the break Rooke will obviously have to come straight back in and maybe (probably) Selwood will prove hard to drop.
This gives all the "passengers" another game to prove themselves and we can bag the worst of them for a fortnight.
That should keep a few posters happy.

 

[DanA]

I'd like to see Tenace get another crack. Haven't yet seen enough of him to make up my opinion on him. He seems to spend a lot of time on the bench and gets moved around a lot.

In: Selwood, Hunt
Out: Rooke (susp), Enright

Not popular opinion but it is what I would do (as an armchair coach)

 

[JoeLCatS]

Don't know why people think Hawkins should get a game, his VFL form doesnt warrent it. I think only change should be:

In: Selwood

Out: Rooke (Susp)

 

[Partridge]

I would have thought that with Rooke being suspended that you would replace him with a defender not a midfielder. Hunt is the only replacement for him.

Rooke hasn't been a defender for a year and a half - he's a midfielder now. Ever since he thrashed Judd at Geelong in late 2005 he's been exclusively a tagger. And playing the best footy of his life.

Mentioning form, Hunt didn't exactly set the world on fire in the seconds. If they only make the mandatory change (if they don't contest) for Rooke, then it's Rooke out; Selwood in.

 

[catempire]

Rooke hasn't been a defender for a year and a half - he's a midfielder now. Ever since he thrashed Judd at Geelong in late 2005 he's been exclusively a tagger. And playing the best footy of his life.

Mentioning form, Hunt didn't exactly set the world on fire in the seconds. If they only make the mandatory change (if they don't contest) for Rooke, then it's Rooke out; Selwood in.

Spot on.

 

[Rosella]

Rooke hasn't been a defender for a year and a half - he's a midfielder now. Ever since he thrashed Judd at Geelong in late 2005 he's been exclusively a tagger. And playing the best footy of his life.

Mentioning form, Hunt didn't exactly set the world on fire in the seconds. If they only make the mandatory change (if they don't contest) for Rooke, then it's Rooke out; Selwood in.

I'm in total agreement as well.

Hunt was dropped for a reason and he hasn't done enough for him to displace anyone. Tenace may have had a bad game but he's been ok up til then - you're allowed one bad one.

 

[hoody]

I'm in total agreement as well.

Hunt was dropped for a reason and he hasn't done enough for him to displace anyone. Tenace may have had a bad game but he's been ok up til then - you're allowed one bad one.

YEAH, Hunt was dropped for a reason. They had to make a space for the Captain.
Even the coach stated that it was not because of bad form.
Hunt's last two games were certainly better than Tenace was on Sunday.

 

[Partridge]

I'm in total agreement as well.

Hunt was dropped for a reason and he hasn't done enough for him to displace anyone. Tenace may have had a bad game but he's been ok up til then - you're allowed one bad one.

Exactly. Gardiner's been allowed 51 bad ones.

 

[catempire]

Correct.

Tenace played two very good games against Freo and Port and has now had two poor ones.

Those two in the bank save him for mine but he needs a good game this week.

If there was a running half back player in the VFL who had been 1st or 2nd best on ground the past couple of weeks I would consider dropping Tenace but the fact is, there isn't.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Nablett has done nothing the last two weeks. I think the perception that we have a potent forwardline is a myth somewhat, Steve Johnson and Mooney are very good, and the rest are ineffective you would have to say. Our backline is our strength, which is a good thing and our midfield has been excellent, Ling has been a very good goal-kicker.

Having said that, the likes of Nablett will probably rip it up against a lower opposition in Brisbane, but I think we are one key forward short of a premiership to be honest, so when Hawkins hits his straps I'll be confident.

I think Tenace must be dropped for Selwood. Maybe Prismall to come in for Rooke should he be suspended. Other than that, stay as is.

 

[Tommy the Cat]

Correct.

Tenace played two very good games against Freo and Port and has now had two poor ones.

Those two in the bank save him for mine but he needs a good game this week.

If there was a running half back player in the VFL who had been 1st or 2nd best on ground the past couple of weeks I would consider dropping Tenace but the fact is, there isn't.

its true that he played well but even then I was critical of his disposals

he has poor execution and makes poor decisions, but in games where we break records and win by plenty, he gets away with it

he was found out against the Crows who put him under pressure, the same pressure we will get in the finals

I don't think Tenace's disposals will improve, he's always been poor and in my opinion, he is not the player I'd want to get us through the finals

the likes of Varcoe and Nablett have done enough to deserve another chance in my opinion

 

[Rosella]

YEAH, Hunt was dropped for a reason. They had to make a space for the Captain.
Even the coach stated that it was not because of bad form.
Hunt's last two games were certainly better than Tenace was on Sunday.

I meant he was originally dropped for a reason - earlier in the season.

 

[martyk]

I meant he was originally dropped for a reason - earlier in the season.

What is your point? 99% of players get dropped at some point. Hunt has been far more consistant in his time in the AFL than Tenace, and gets given far more responsibility.

Lets be honest, Tenace has no man and runs around trying to create play out of defense. He creates nothing but turnovers or options for opposition defenders to spoil. I'm not suprised he has good games when we perform well as a team, big deal? He has been proven to be a passenger when we are not performing too good(eg last week) nothing will change. He contributes little unless someone is winning the ball for him basically.